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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Miniman on October 17, 2006, 16:50:08

Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Miniman on October 17, 2006, 16:50:08
Right my last thread has gone dead so I ask when fitting a 200tdi into a 90 which had a 2.5 n/a to the gearbox off the original 2.5 n/a do you fit the discovery clutch and pressure plate or the 2.5 n/a.

Also what about flywheels 2.5 n/a or 200tdi.

Now I am going to be fitting the 2.5 n/a flywheel housing so there is a correct fit and its water tight also this means I can use all the bolts aswell so is there any problems there.

Cheers guys.
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: graham2306 on October 17, 2006, 21:13:16
I used the Disco bell housing, disco clutch and disco flywheel.  We drilled and tapped the bottom of the bell housing to take the extra studs and it seems pretty watertight.

Graham
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: extreme90 on October 17, 2006, 21:54:52
Quote from: "graham2306"
I used the Disco bell housing, disco clutch and disco flywheel.  We drilled and tapped the bottom of the bell housing to take the extra studs and it seems pretty watertight.

Graham


how did you use the disco bellhousing on a 90 gearbox ?? the input shaft is a different length  :?

miniman, if your using origianal box what you could do is , remove clutch, remove flywheel and remove the flywheel surround ( what the bellhousing bolts up to, and swap the 200 1 with the n/a one, then refit flywheel and clutch
long winded but saves faffing round driling holes in wrong places  :roll:
if you do what i suggested, fit a new rear crank seal while you've got everythin apart, and also id fit a new clutch ect ect aswel
danny
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: extreme90 on October 17, 2006, 21:57:34
:oops:  doh , just read your thread again  :oops:  noticed that what i suggested 2 do is what your already gonna do  :oops:
goin to bury head in sand now cya  :oops:
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: graham2306 on October 17, 2006, 22:04:56
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"

how did you use the disco bellhousing on a 90 gearbox ?? the input shaft is a different length  :?



[!Expletive Deleted!] is that why I've got no drive to any of the wheels and I thought it was because the transfer box was knackered :D  :D  :D

Got carried away typing Disco, meant to say 90 bell housing, sorry.
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: extreme90 on October 17, 2006, 22:08:39
:lol:   :lol:
i new what you meant any way :wink:  when you said u drilled new holes to accomodate the 200, so you could fit the pins in as the holes are out damn land rovers  :roll:
just thought id bring it up tho to test u  :lol:
p.s going back to bury me head in sand after dropped b******  :roll:
danny
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Miniman on October 18, 2006, 19:47:49
Well today I found out.......OH.....GET YA HEAD OUTA THE SAND.........................PAUSE...............Nice to have ya back......right Well today I found out that the 90 2.5 n/a and TD plus 200tdi are all the same clutch its the pressure plate thats different. So I presume I need to use the original 2.5 n/a Pressure plate because the thrust race / clutch release bearing are different......Oh dear me its all questions questions....
I have been googleing all over the net and found every write up about it but Nobody has said owt about the clutch.....gurrrrr
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: davidlandy on October 18, 2006, 19:52:03
we did one the other week and used the TD / na clutch

chucked the disco one away

any other questions on the conversion?
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Miniman on October 18, 2006, 19:54:48
Oh err yes. NEW

T Belt
Idler bearing
T Belt tensioner
Front and rear crank seal
Injector pump seal
Cam seal
Outer Cover seal
Rocker cover gasket
Fuel filter
Oil Filter
Clutch and bearing
Oil
Land Rover 90

Another thing I did think of was to change the flywheel off my 2.5 n/a aswell as its a bit lighter than the disco one which would make my truck just a tad lively........May lose a bit on the oil fuel economy but hey ho so what its not going to be any worse than my 2/5 Naturaly Asthmatic
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Xtremeteam on October 18, 2006, 19:56:46
Quote from: "Miniman"
Oh err yes. NEW

T Belt
Idler bearing
T Belt tensioner
Front and rear crank seal
Injector pump seal
Cam seal
Outer Cover seal
Rocker cover gasket
Fuel filter
Oil Filter
Clutch and bearing
Oil
Land Rover 90

Another thing I did think of was to change the flywheel off my 2.5 n/a aswell as its a bit lighter than the disco one which would make my truck just a tad lively........May lose a bit on the oil fuel economy but hey ho so what its not going to be any worse than my 2/5 Naturaly Asthmatic

No,just fit the disco flywheel with the correct lutch n get the bloody thing in the hole  :roll:
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Miniman on October 18, 2006, 20:06:59
so mike you used a disco pressure plate ?

Quote from: "davidlandy"
we did one the other week and any other questions on the conversion?


Well as it happens yes. What did ya do about the oil cooler pipes did ya get em professionaly extended ?

What did ya do about the Power steering hi pressure pipe.
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: graham2306 on October 27, 2006, 16:22:28
Quote from: "Miniman"
so mike you used a disco pressure plate ?


Well as it happens yes. What did ya do about the oil cooler pipes did ya get em professionaly extended ?

What did ya do about the Power steering hi pressure pipe.


When we did mine we used the Disco clutch.  I took the oil cooler pipes and power steering pipes over to Pirtek and they made up new ones.  make sure you measure up well and get the dimensions right as it aint cheeap or easy to change them if you get them wrong.  You may find a local agricultural engineer who can do the job cheaper than Pirtek.
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Ja1983 on October 27, 2006, 17:23:06
sounds like i`m not the only one planning a new school diesel lump in the defender!  :lol:
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Xtremeteam on October 27, 2006, 20:20:23
Quote from: "graham2306"
Quote from: "Miniman"
so mike you used a disco pressure plate ?


Well as it happens yes. What did ya do about the oil cooler pipes did ya get em professionaly extended ?

What did ya do about the Power steering hi pressure pipe.


When we did mine we used the Disco clutch.  I took the oil cooler pipes and power steering pipes over to Pirtek and they made up new ones.  make sure you measure up well and get the dimensions right as it aint cheeap or easy to change them if you get them wrong.  You may find a local agricultural engineer who can do the job cheaper than Pirtek.

i used defender/TD oil cooler pipes  :wink:
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: davidlandy on October 27, 2006, 20:44:28
the oil cooler pipes from the TD fitted - just needed to take the unions from the oil filter housing and rad from the old td engine.

had to extend the PAS pipe by about 6" or so and a local hydraulic firm did that for not many pennies.
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Miniman on October 30, 2006, 00:56:21
Its fit and running just silly bits to sort out now... Came home in it tonight....its quick..
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on October 30, 2006, 02:00:14
Nice one Dude, you will love it!
Title: When fitting a 200tdi in a 90
Post by: Miniman on October 30, 2006, 19:52:21
:(  Bloody rad got a hole in it now...... :(

But yeh done the fuel tweaks today and wow what a fast motor it is now...
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