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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: bigfatsi on November 02, 2006, 08:17:34

Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: bigfatsi on November 02, 2006, 08:17:34
I have a 2.5TD 90 which was very smoky to say the least. (Detailed on another thread) I managed to reduce this drastically by sorting out valve clearances. However, I'm still not convinced it is within normal limits as you can still see a lot of 'fog' when driving at night with lights behind you.
It does not appear to be using oil or water and when you see the smoke during the day it is still black.

Basically, I think it is suffering from a fuel problem such as worn injectors or someone has been messing around with the fuelling setup - boost etc.
Can anyone tell me how many miles theyt would expect to get from a TD on a full tank. My last tank got me 240 miles of which 210 were on the motorway (at about 60) and about 30 were off-road.

Hopefully this will give me some clues!

Thanks in advance,

Simon.
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: Snooky on November 02, 2006, 09:03:02
Sounds about the same as mine, worked out at last fill up that is was putting out 23mpg, which I thought was quite good
As for smoke at night, I get that from a 3 year old Zafira, it's just that the lights make it more apparent and wouldn't worry it's what deisels do I thought  :wink:
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: Dave K on November 02, 2006, 10:36:17
You will get some "Fog" during nightdriving!
They all do that, It's just a question of how you drive.
I used to get between 24-30mpg out of my TD.
It's not a bad engine, just look after it.
Change the oil regularly,& take it easy!
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: Devon-Rover on November 02, 2006, 10:52:15
Sounds normal on both counts, Nothing to worry about.

My dad's TD is the same that has some visual fog at night but in the day it burns clear with no smoke.

He can get 220 miles to a tank if he's towing but he get's 235 - 250 for road work and motorway running.
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: mmgemini on November 02, 2006, 11:59:35
Not only do you see "fog" at night with the TD.
Also with the Tdi both 200 and 300

My Astra diesel was the same at night.
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: bezzabsa on November 02, 2006, 17:10:30
hmmm well i am getting between 25 and 30 mpg from my 110 TD. only smoke i get is on startup - and i dont get the 'mist' at night - used to in my 300 tdi disco tho'!
best part is if im really gentle with the throttle - and drive relaxed - i can get 180 miles from £20 of diesel - ..so over 30mpg froma 20 year old 2 tonne landy :D:D
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: Lee_D on November 02, 2006, 17:32:13
What are the TD's like towing? I'm exploring options for a 110 at the mo and would be towing a caravan with a max weight of around 1300kg's down through France.... what sort of cruising speed is comfortable and how is the gearing?

Lee D
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: bigfatsi on November 02, 2006, 17:49:26
Mine's probably not a good example. It has trouble hauling itself up hills, let alone a trailer. TDis probably a better bet these days unless you're on a really tight budget. (Like me  :lol: )

Simon.
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: bezzabsa on November 02, 2006, 17:49:27
Quote from: "Dude"
What are the TD's like towing? I'm exploring options for a 110 at the mo and would be towing a caravan with a max weight of around 1300kg's down through France.... what sort of cruising speed is comfortable and how is the gearing?

Lee D

better than a series - not as good as a tdi but quite adequate, comfortable 55 -65 mph - also cheaper as MOST people dont like them, as they have a bad rep!
but also easily upgradable to Tdi if you feel the need for extra power later!
Hope that helps!
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: bigfatsi on November 02, 2006, 17:51:16
Quote from: "bezzabsa"
hmmm well i am getting between 25 and 30 mpg from my 110 TD. only smoke i get is on startup - and i dont get the 'mist' at night - used to in my 300 tdi disco tho'!
best part is if im really gentle with the throttle - and drive relaxed - i can get 180 miles from £20 of diesel - ..so over 30mpg froma 20 year old 2 tonne landy :D:D


That's good going. I get 240 for 45-50!  :cry: Wanna swap?  :lol:

Simon.
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: bezzabsa on November 02, 2006, 20:38:59
Quote from: "bigfatsi"
Quote from: "bezzabsa"
hmmm well i am getting between 25 and 30 mpg from my 110 TD. only smoke i get is on startup - and i dont get the 'mist' at night - used to in my 300 tdi disco tho'!
best part is if im really gentle with the throttle - and drive relaxed - i can get 180 miles from £20 of diesel - ..so over 30mpg froma 20 year old 2 tonne landy :D:D


That's good going. I get 240 for 45-50!  :cry: Wanna swap?  :lol:

Simon.

erm... NO thanks..lol
struggled enough with mine just changing the diesel tank!!
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: Miniman on November 02, 2006, 21:49:55
I have just gone from a 2.5 N/A to a 200tdi I have just fit and done the fuel pump tweaks and its awsome. I up to press am getting 36mpg but that is booting it a bit......

I will find out this weekend what its like for towing but I recon its brill because now I can get 5th gear in the first 5mins on the road in fact I am in 5th in about 20seconds......top engine..... :wink:
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: graham2306 on November 02, 2006, 21:59:35
Miniman tell me about these fuel tweeks as on a 300 mile run last week on motorway, a roads and lanes I only managed just over 20 mpg with my newly fitted Tdi.

Cheers

Graham
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: jimthelandyman on November 03, 2006, 19:12:42
I get about 210-220 from my TD just depends how you drive it, i boot mine everywhere so sometimes its a bit worse on the juice, as for smoke mine is like a steam train absolutely tonnes of the stuff especially at night.
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: Xtremeteam on November 03, 2006, 19:26:02
Quote from: "Miniman"
I have just gone from a 2.5 N/A to a 200tdi I have just fit and done the fuel pump tweaks and its awsome. I up to press am getting 36mpg but that is booting it a bit......

I will find out this weekend what its like for towing but I recon its brill because now I can get 5th gear in the first 5mins on the road in fact I am in 5th in about 20seconds......top engine..... :wink:


36mpg with the pump tweaked & booting it?

think not
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: Stormin on November 03, 2006, 19:32:42
Me thinks he pressed the wrong key. :D
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: davidlandy on November 03, 2006, 21:23:15
Quote from: "Stormin"
Me thinks he pressed the wrong key. :D


yes he means 3.6mpg

lol - HAVE IT U GRRREEEENIES
Title: What's your TD Fuel economy like?
Post by: Miniman on November 05, 2006, 22:47:07
Quote from: "graham2306"
I only managed just over 20 mpg with my newly fitted Tdi.

Cheers

Graham


Ah well thats because you have just fitted it and cant back off for one moment...lol

Its a long story to tell so I will PM you my Phone No then I can get you to get ya head under ya bonnet whilst I explain.
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