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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Tailendcharley on November 15, 2006, 17:42:59
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:) :) I wonder,when Blair finally decides to call it a day and clears off out of this Country what the history books will say about the legacy he left us all to live with.Here's some for starters Mr. Blair...
a. Corruption.....as in cash for honours
b. Jailed asylum seekers let out of prison to re-offend
c. The Country,practically sinking with the influx of foreigners
d. The tax payer funding the jailed druggies compo. claims
That's just for starters...I can literally think of lots more....thank you very much Mr. Blair.........
:cry: :cry: Terry Smith :wink: :wink:
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Please, do not get me started.....Really, don`t :evil:
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Tony Blair this is your life...
a. Corruption.....as in cash for honours
b. Jailed asylum seekers let out of prison to re-offend
c. The Country,practically sinking with the influx of foreigners
d. The tax payer funding the jailed druggies compo. claims
WMD's
next week... ken livingstone
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I thought he 'd had a new Subaru for a minute..... :lol: :lol:
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Don't go there... please... I don't want to get chucked off the club for expressing my veiws on that traitor...
who, incidentally, should be hung for treason.... the scumbag francophile that he is...
No free speach any more unless it's all cleaned up and pc....
eh, mods :wink:
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Don't go there... please... I don't want to get chucked off the club for expressing my veiws on that traitor...
who, incidentally, should be hung for treason.... the scumbag francophile that he is...
No free speach any more unless it's all cleaned up and pc....
eh, mods :wink:
My sentiments entirely Blair and New Labour********!!!!! :evil:
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Ok, here goes.
How about
Tony Blair, this is your life!
You have succesfully
1) Put the UK under a threat of terrorism that could potentially end our way of life in the UK, as we know it.
2) Brought in a piece of legislation that nobody needed (Human Rights Act) in the Uk, that has allowed your missus to do very nicely out of it, thank you very much!
3) Included us in an 'armed policing action' that was, although morally correct, not a viable option.
4) Over the space of ten years, have succesfully destroyed the ability to have a laugh, joke,and allow kids to be brought with freedom of choice.
5) With promises to bring down unemployment, have seen it rise to its highest level
6) Made was once seen as the finest Police Force in the world, an international laughing stock.
7) Made pride in your countries achievements, a thing to be ashamed of,
8) Made freedom of choice a thing to be frowned upon.
9) Allowed HM Armed Forces to become a shadow of its former self.
Etc etc etc.
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...but he has got a nice smile.... :twisted:
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I always think of him as a sort of cheshire cat character, he shows up whenever tehre's trouble and then fades away leaving nothing more than the lasting memory of teeth
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...but he has got a nice smile.... :twisted:
LOL but its a shame about his wife!
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Suddenly I feel so at home in the bar again :D
I had a nice job in engineering until that a*** w*** got into power, now the factory is a 'trade warehouse', oh no hang on a minute, that went out of business too :roll:
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He has truly turned us into an island nation.
There is little left that is British, this is reflected in all aspects of our nation.
We are at the mercy of foreigners every step that we take and to completely button up the situation he has made it illegal for any one of us to speak the truth about most things without fear of legal action.
This is not progress, this is a massive backward step that can only bring trouble for the future.
England no longer exists as a country as it is not self governed, whereas Wales and Scotland technically are countries.
The UK is being split into new assemblies that the tax payer is paying for, yet we are told nothing of, you have to go and find it for yourself and in 2008 it will affect us massively.
All services have been compromised by the new legislations, some 3000 new laws, but the most frightening new Bill in the Queens speech is the bill for organised crime, you will be imprisoned for thinking about organising any crime, you do not have to carry it out, this is all well and good if they were to use it for just that, but look how they have abused the new terror laws :(
We are sleepwalking into totalitarianism and an even more oppressive State than you could ever think of, it is truly frightening.
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1) Put the UK under a threat of terrorism that could potentially end our way of life in the UK, as we know it
Its my guess that its the filthy stinking terrorists that are responsible for this bit.
We know who they are................
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I find it interesting that the defintion of terrorism can flow along the following lines.
"To instill a population with a sense of fear or dread in order to achieve a political agenda"
An interesting thought when you watch the news and see the new laws being passed I feel.
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All I'll say is
V for Vendetta
What made the film more scary is the fact we are headed there.
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:) :) And a very big 'thank you' to Mr Blair....you sir,have completely screwed up the transport network system of this Country...most major roads of this once fine Country have become a virtual carpark throughout the day and all you and your merry men can think of doing is to screw yet more money out of us motorists...at least Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask...thank you very much Mr Blair,enjoy your retirement in the West Indies...rant over,I feel even worse now,time for some pills....
:wink: :wink: Terry Smith :wink: :wink:
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Fascinating... everytthing is his fault... nobody elses... no generalising or exagerating going on at all there...
Can't wait to see what you all have to say abot the next one.. or the one after that or the one after that...
The same kind of things have been said about:
John Major
Margaret Thatcher
James Callaghan
Edward Heath
Harold Wilson
Alec Douglas-Hulme
Harold Macmillan
Anthony Eden
Clem Atlee
Winston Churchill
Neville Chamberlain
Ramsey MacDonald
Stanley Baldwin
Andrew Bonar Law
Lloyd George
Henry Asquith
Henry Campbell-Bannerman
Arthur James Balfour
And I'm sure similar things were said about the prime ministers in the previous centuries...
We put him there... so whose fault is it...?
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:) :) Not a bad observation Skibum but the whole point is that he is the Prime Minister,the head man,the person in charge...he is provided with a marvellous life style,good wage and fantastic pension...he has to take the blame for the decline of this once great Country...it is his fault and I certainly did not put him in power...because of the P.C. brigade I am unable to state my political party...
:wink: :wink: Terry Smith :wink: :wink:
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Fascinating... everytthing is his fault... nobody elses... no generalising or exagerating going on at all there...
Can't wait to see what you all have to say abot the next one.. or the one after that or the one after that...
The same kind of things have been said about:
John Major
Margaret Thatcher
James Callaghan
Edward Heath
Harold Wilson
Alec Douglas-Hulme
Harold Macmillan
Anthony Eden
Clem Atlee
Winston Churchill
Neville Chamberlain
Ramsey MacDonald
Stanley Baldwin
Andrew Bonar Law
Lloyd George
Henry Asquith
Henry Campbell-Bannerman
Arthur James Balfour
And I'm sure similar things were said about the prime ministers in the previous centuries...
We put him there... so whose fault is it...?
Some of us may have put him there, but we didn`t put him there knowing what he would do, if we had of known what his agenda was, I doubt very much he would have got in.
As for it being his fault, a resounding yes, he is head honcho, it is his watch, the buck does indeed stop with him.
If he doesn`t have time to watch everything, then he should not be doing the job.
His own veiws and opinions are not in sync with the general population......And, as a last point, he is in Govt. to serve us, not the other way round, like it has become.
As for his wages, the leader of Kent County Council earns more than Tony does.....He hasn`t done it for the money now, but for what is to come once he has retired.
Too many conflicts of interest for our Tony in his position too, and this is just what is in the public domain, I really wonder what isn`t known of?
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Its a good point BUT
If you look at the history of his time in the job, he's probobly done more harm than a lot of people. True he can only go on the info hes given etc but its been shown that the information he's been given has been duff and he's ignored it.
How many white Elephants?
The warning shot should be that hes made at least one attempt, and is planning another, to remove the jury from some trials.
Remeber a line from a role playing game that summons up the extreme of where we are headed :
'Are you happy citizen? Yes you are arent you? Failure to be happy is punishable by summary execution! Yes I thought you were happy'
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Copied from another site & slightly edited.
Thank you Nu-Labour for the following:-
The Millennium Dome was built, wasting roughly 800 million?
The Scottish Parliament building was constructed at 400 million over budget?
The Diana Memorial Fountain was built?
The replacement for Wembley Stadium went over-budget and still remains uncompleted?
The Home Office failed to deport and gave the "Freedom Of Britain" to roughly one thousand alien criminals including murderers, rapists, child molesters and drug dealers?
Brown sold-off Britain's gold reserves at rock-bottom prices, before gold rose to it/s highest pricer in living memory?
Tens of billions in taxpayers money were sent to the E.U. in return for jobs for the boys, ever-growing bureaucracy and alleged but unproven benefits?
Chaos ruled at the alleged Child Support Agency and hundreds of millions of pounds continue to be wasted?
Chaos ruled at the Benefits Agency?
Chaos ruled over Brown's Tax Credit Sys em?
Chaos reigns over the new multi-billion pound N.H.S. Computer system?
Health and dental care services were progressively reduced, whilst taxation to support many of those now nonexistent services continued?
We were taken to War by fraud and deception at an annual cost of billions?
British and American forces, civilians and unknown thousands of innocent foreign civilians were sent to their deaths or serious injury as a result?
Britain was turned into one of the two most hated nations on earth?
Britain was made a target for potential terrorists?
Britain's borders went unprotected and hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers invaded the country and then had their total numbers and State benefits covered-up by a corrupt Establishment?
Thousands of vulnerable children were introduced to IMPORTED illegal substances?
M.R.S.A. was permitted to kill thousands of patients every year in N.H.S. hospitals?
Although continuing to be paid-for by the whole of the working population, hundreds of N.H.S. dentists ceased to exist?
Giving away taxpayers money to the third-world become more important than the health, safety and welfare of the ethnic British population?
Unknown numbers of pensioners died though poverty-related hypothermia?
Numerous whitewashes and official cover-ups occurred, not only protecting Cabinet Ministers but effectively defrauding thousands of potential claimants of rightful compensation?
Peerages and Knighthoods were effectively sold by a Government claiming to be cleaner than clean?
Fox- hunting became a crime, because of 'Toff envy'?
To reduce official unemployment levels, thousands of intellectually ill-equipped school-leavers were lured into serious debt with the promise of almost worthless university qualifications?
Legislation was passed enabling the gradual creation of a neo-Nazi slave-labour Police State, in which the poorest in the land can be forced to work from late-childhood to the grave supporting the political classes, their quangos-filling friends, their senior civil service acolytes and a massive bureaucracy?
Obtaining resignations from slimy lying mass-murdering pocket-lining perverted political scum became almost an impossibility?
It is surely obvious to those of even limited intellect that the foregoing are an endless catalogue of financial and social disasters for the nation. Yet Cabinet Ministers refer habitually to their Government's 'unspecified' great achievements.
Can anyone think of ONE of genuine benefit to the nation ......... apart from those involving the collection of their undeserved salaries and expenses by Blair, the Cabinet and their henchpersons.?
P.S. There is not the slightest evidence that the Conservatives or Liberal Democrats would do much better. Just that they could not possibly do worse. The same applies to both U.K.I.P. and the B.N.P. However, unlike the others, their patriotic credentials are beyond question.
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:) :) Thanks for that Att...that about covers all of my thoughts about Blair,this corrupt Government and MPs in general...it's refreshing to know that there are other people in this Country who can see what's really going on but the big question is 'what are we going to do about it'.
Where did you get all that info. from ???
:wink: :wink: Terry Smith :wink: :wink:
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Believe it or not, that was not all of it. I shall contact the chap who posted it on my regular site and ask him.
There are a lot of peeps who feel the same, mostly those who run their own business`s.
Regarding failed IT systems that the Govt. has induldged in, the cost to the UK tax payer for written off systems is the same as the Millenium Dome - 800 million!
The figures are frightening, if I had more time I would add them all up and divide them by the number of tax payers in the country, add to that the defence spending that has been spent on abandoned projects or retro repairs and the amount is absolutely enormous.
Why do we put up with it?????.....Possibly because we are not French, unlike us, they have not had their testicles removed by their own Govt. :(
This lot aren`t stupid, they are very cunning and have some top notch lawyers on hand to wrap things up rather nicely.
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:) :) If you would get us the details Att I would appreciate it...I am presently listening to Les Miserables and the barricade track seems rather fitting....regards
:wink: :wink: Terry Smith :wink: :wink:
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And of course, the CSA is now to be abolished...... about time too. But what is going to replace it?? And it will need a new computer system :lol: Maybe they could use the one the DVLA threw out to save money, it can't be any worse :lol:
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:) :) If you would get us the details Att I would appreciate it...I am presently listening to Les Miserables and the barricade track seems rather fitting....regards
:wink: :wink: Terry Smith :wink: :wink:
:lol: :lol: ...I have asked him for the details, will get back as soon as I have them.
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Under the Tories my pay went up by 0.01% per annum.
Under Labour my pay has gone up by on average 4% per annum.
The person/party who puts the most money in my pocket gets my vote.
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Under the Tories my pay went up by 0.01% per annum.
Under Labour my pay has gone up by on average 4% per annum.
The person/party who puts the most money in my pocket gets my vote.
Take a look at your council tax and compare it to 6 years ago.
Add up the rest of your taxation, see if your 4% really is 4%.
I would place a safe bet that it is not.
Plus inflation is rising, interest rates are now going up....A familiar picture is emerging.
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Under the Tories my pay went up by 0.01% per annum.
Under Labour my pay has gone up by on average 4% per annum.
The person/party who puts the most money in my pocket gets my vote.
Take a look at your council tax and compare it to 6 years ago.
Add up the rest of your taxation, see if your 4% really is 4%.
I would place a safe bet that it is not.
Plus inflation is rising, interest rates are now going up....A familiar picture is emerging.
Don't pay council tax so wouldn't know. It is of course a local goverment tax and not central goverment. I do know that I'm better off than i was and that's all I'm worried about.
I will say the one thing I am disappointed in is that Tony Blair has not done as much to push forward European intergration as I thought he would when he came to power. very dissapointing and an ommission that will probably cost us dear in the years to come.
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I am struggling with the fact of being better off and having more money.
This IS NOT me having a go or anything like.
I too am better off and have lot`s more money than ever before, but I am not any happier, in fact I am more dissapointed with life.
The fact is that society is just too greedy and uncaring than it used to be and that causes me concern. It is also more complicated and the Leaders of this country no longer lead by example, infact the examples they set are just plain wrong, they propogate greed, adultry and selfishness, that is not what society is about.
I would prefer a safe, kind, caring society and less money.
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I am struggling with the fact of being better off and having more money.
This IS NOT me having a go or anything like.
I too am better off and have lot`s more money than ever before, but I am not any happier, in fact I am more dissapointed with life.
The fact is that society is just too greedy and uncaring than it used to be and that causes me concern. It is also more complicated and the Leaders of this country no longer lead by example, infact the examples they set are just plain wrong, they propogate greed, adultry and selfishness, that is not what society is about.
I would prefer a safe, kind, caring society and less money.
It's fair enough. Diffrent outlooks on life. Everybody wants something diffrent from life. I want more money and a united Europe. I suspect I'm not more likely to get what I want than you are.
You must admit though in relation to politicians that power corrupts absolutely regardless of party or belief.
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Under the Tories my pay went up by 0.01% per annum.
Under Labour my pay has gone up by on average 4% per annum.
The person/party who puts the most money in my pocket gets my vote.
Take a look at your council tax and compare it to 6 years ago.
Add up the rest of your taxation, see if your 4% really is 4%.
I would place a safe bet that it is not.
Plus inflation is rising, interest rates are now going up....A familiar picture is emerging.
Don't pay council tax so wouldn't know. It is of course a local goverment tax and not central goverment. I do know that I'm better off than i was and that's all I'm worried about.
I will say the one thing I am disappointed in is that Tony Blair has not done as much to push forward European intergration as I thought he would when he came to power. very dissapointing and an ommission that will probably cost us dear in the years to come.
If you are so keen to join Europe Easyjet have lots of bargain flights, book a one way to higher taxes and all the other fun of funding Europes under achieving members.
I was doing great until Labour introduced IR35 and declared me as a tax evader.
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I closed mine, put 8 blokes out of work. I'm not particularly proud of putting them out of work but this government has mad employing people so difficult and costly that I got fed up with it and have gone back to working on my own. Untill we get a government that doesn't punish guv'nors for keeping people off the dole I won't be employing again.
I have gone back to doing commercial photography and have enough work to warrant taking on one, possibly two people on a part time basis. Its not going to happen though, I can't be doing with the hassle.
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Under the Tories my pay went up by 0.01% per annum.
Under Labour my pay has gone up by on average 4% per annum.
The person/party who puts the most money in my pocket gets my vote.
Take a look at your council tax and compare it to 6 years ago.
Add up the rest of your taxation, see if your 4% really is 4%.
I would place a safe bet that it is not.
Plus inflation is rising, interest rates are now going up....A familiar picture is emerging.
Don't pay council tax so wouldn't know. It is of course a local goverment tax and not central goverment. I do know that I'm better off than i was and that's all I'm worried about.
I will say the one thing I am disappointed in is that Tony Blair has not done as much to push forward European intergration as I thought he would when he came to power. very dissapointing and an ommission that will probably cost us dear in the years to come.
If you are so keen to join Europe Easyjet have lots of bargain flights, book a one way to higher taxes and all the other fun of funding Europes under achieving members.
I was doing great until Labour introduced IR35 and declared me as a tax evader.
As I remember IR35 was simply introduced to sort out the situation for people using an middle man to provide a service when the true status of that person was an employee and therefore liable to PAYE and NIC. There were a lot of people out there using it for tax avoidence. If people don't abuse the legisation already in place, new legislation doesn't need to be enacted to deal with it. Unfortunately the majority of the UK have a pathological hatred of paying taxes and will do anything to get out of it. Same people are, of course, the first people to complain about lack of schools and hospitals.
Don't need to join Europe. We are in it. More intergration in Europe will lead to full tax harmonisation (bet you all love Europe if it rules you can get cheap booze next week. Not to worry about the large number of people who will loose their jobs eh!!). I'm happy that a proportion of my tax goes to funding the emerging nations. It's the only way to achieve the unity we all want.
There is always pain before gain.
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We should take Switzerlands example.
They do very nicely out of the EEC in my opinion.
Wouldn`t want to live there though....Have you seen the haircuts and heard their music!
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I'm with you on that one i don't employ anyone now just work on my own. I used to manufacture machinery now import it there is no incentive to grow business so why take on the hasstle.
I closed mine, put 8 blokes out of work. I'm not particularly proud of putting them out of work but this government has mad employing people so difficult and costly that I got fed up with it and have gone back to working on my own. Untill we get a government that doesn't punish guv'nors for keeping people off the dole I won't be employing again.
I have gone back to doing commercial photography and have enough work to warrant taking on one, possibly two people on a part time basis. Its not going to happen though, I can't be doing with the hassle.
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Unfortunately the majority of the UK have a pathological hatred of paying taxes and will do anything to get out of it. Same people are, of course, the first people to complain about lack of schools and hospitals.
You really don't want to know how much I've paid into the corrupt system in the last 20 years of being in business, but I'll be right up the front of the queuw to complain about the lack of adequate school funding and an under funded NHS.
I'll also complain about the £100,000,000 that Blair has pleged to rebuild Iraq and the further £438,000,000 he's just pledge to Pakistan.
Look after your own country first, not your own ambition to be President of the Euro Quango.
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Well Make sure you all get of ya butts at the next election and make you feelings heard and felt.
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Well Make sure you all get of ya butts at the next election and make you feelings heard and felt.
I like the way that at the locals, the Labour councillor that was welcoming people at the polling station ran off to hide when I pulled up in a 4x4
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Blair's legacy? Turning Great Britain into a corrupt over-governed beige euro-state while the other European countries who quite rightly ignore, adapt or sidestep any community rulings which don't suit them look on and laugh.
I agree with most of the other "anti" comments here too, no point repeating them.
As to "we didn't know what he was going to do before we voted him in" why has he been voted in again then? The answer I fear is as we used to say about a neighbouring area of Yorkshire when I was growing up "they'd vote for a dead pig there if it had a red rosette round it's neck".
I always think of him as a sort of cheshire cat character, he shows up whenever tehre's trouble and then fades away leaving nothing more than the lasting memory of teeth
In the midst of the political stuff a really funny comment - thanks for that one :)
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:) :) Staying on the ECC theme I see from yesterdays Brussels ruling that we can't buy duty free alcohol and cigarettes over the internet...can somebody explain to me what this gigantic open free European market is all about.I thought it was about trade between the relevant Countries.If you pay local taxes for a product then that should be an end to it or am i being nieve again....
:cry: :cry: Terry Smith :wink: :wink:
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Only the people of Sedgfield put Tony Blair in Parliament, the labour party made him their leader. Why does he have to be ours?
We have one of those rare MPS who actually spend a lot of time in the constituancy. He has done lots of good things for us that have improved our lives locally and I really like him.
But and I told him this face to face I decided I hated Tony more than I liked him and voted for someone else.
No one in this country has put Tony in No 10, except a few Labour activists.
It looks like these few activists will choose our next PM too.
It's time the whole nation chose the PM
However much of the failing industry isn't down to him it's down to US thinking the world owed us a living after the 2nd world war, lack of investment and innovation and lack of (and I no it's a dirty word to many) marketing.
But the terror situation is I belive all his fault. They're only throwing bombs at us cos we threw them at them.