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Title: MOT Changes
Post by: Evilgoat on November 30, 2006, 09:54:29
I'm Actually really interested what people make of this as per the thread here (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=33132)

Personaloly, the MOT system works as Is, maybe they shouldnt have put the price up but on the other hand think how much and equivilent health check would cost.

So....
Title: MOT Changes
Post by: bigfatsi on November 30, 2006, 11:06:53
It's a load of b******s anyway so get rid or put in place a system that works. Have a word with an MOT tester and get him to tell you the funny loopholes if you still believe it makes the roads safer!  :shock:

Simon.
Title: MOT Changes
Post by: Evilgoat on November 30, 2006, 12:19:12
Hmm, well living in Calgary my next door neighbor had a huge truck and a runabout. The runabout was an 88 honda accord. You could open the doors by reaching through the rust hole in the drivers door and manually pull the back of the internal doorhandle. It had no passenger side door sills to speak of, burnt more oil than petrol, no handbreak and bald tires. Now the last two youd spot being a sensible person, but you thing joe public is conns spot sill rust, realise how unsafe that makes the car and voluntarilly get it fixed? Another one was the Ford Ramger with a railway tie as a bumper. Sure wouldnt like to test that the hard way.

And the first accident when someone's sealbelt or worse child seat, tears the anchors out?

Or the first multiple pile-up on the M25 when someones steering column comes apart?

I like the fact that when I slam on my brakes to avoid something knowing that A) My brakes are going to work, and B) that theres a bloody good chance the brakes of everything behind me will as well.

I would suggest anyone that thinks the MOT is a waste of time spend a month driving where they dont have them.
Title: MOT Changes
Post by: Mudlark on November 30, 2006, 12:21:02
There are plenty of loopholes if you want to use them - me I don't personally
I feel happy with a one year MOT but scrap the emissions test for diesels anyway
Title: MOT Changes
Post by: p4203 on November 30, 2006, 12:30:22
should get rid of the 3 year wait on new cars just make every one 1 year loads of illegal new motors about
Title: MOT Changes
Post by: bigfatsi on November 30, 2006, 12:37:41
Quote from: "Evilgoat"
Hmm, well living in Calgary my next door neighbor had a huge truck and a runabout. The runabout was an 88 honda accord. You could open the doors by reaching through the rust hole in the drivers door and manually pull the back of the internal doorhandle. It had no passenger side door sills to speak of, burnt more oil than petrol, no handbreak and bald tires. Now the last two youd spot being a sensible person, but you thing joe public is conns spot sill rust, realise how unsafe that makes the car and voluntarilly get it fixed? Another one was the Ford Ramger with a railway tie as a bumper. Sure wouldnt like to test that the hard way.

And the first accident when someone's sealbelt or worse child seat, tears the anchors out?

Or the first multiple pile-up on the M25 when someones steering column comes apart?

I like the fact that when I slam on my brakes to avoid something knowing that A) My brakes are going to work, and B) that theres a bloody good chance the brakes of everything behind me will as well.

I would suggest anyone that thinks the MOT is a waste of time spend a month driving where they dont have them.


I can see where you are coming from but these things can and do still happen despite the MOT test. Plenty of dangerous cars out there with less than 3 years under their belt. Plenty that have become dangerous in the 364 days previous to the test. Plenty of dangerous cars out there because of lax rules on testers (admittedly getting better with computerisation) and more worryingly plenty of cars out there that could be dangerous but have faults which lie outside of the MOT remit. I'm not trying to get out of MOTs. I think they should be made more strict as for example if your screen is cracked it will fail an MOT but if you take it out (with the wipers) it can pass. Same for spare tyres and many more. Some cars with body kits won't fail MOT on sills as they are covered by the kit and the tester is not allowed to remove anything to check. Madness.

I think we're both wanting the same end result. I just question whether the MOT will ever be the best tool to achieve it with!

Simon.
Title: MOT Changes
Post by: Evilgoat on November 30, 2006, 13:58:37
Quote from: "bigfatsi"
Some cars with body kits won't fail MOT on sills as they are covered by the kit and the tester is not allowed to remove anything to check. Madness.

I think we're both wanting the same end result. I just question whether the MOT will ever be the best tool to achieve it with!

Simon.


now that I wasnt aware of, interesting. Ultrasound would spot that in a second though.

Hmm, off to tinker.....
Title: MOT Changes
Post by: BrumLee on November 30, 2006, 15:58:07
Quote from: "Mudlark"
scrap the emissions test for diesels anyway


Scrap the emmissions test for all gas-guzzlers as the anti's would have us believe we don't pass them  :roll:  :x  :twisted:
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