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Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: burgerman on December 08, 2006, 11:54:12
   UNBELIEVABLE  :shock:

               We have a local ford in Headly (hampshire) which usually trundles along about 12-18 inches deep (perfect)   BUT  Due to the recent drop of rain it is now showing 3 metres (10 foot) on the depth stick  :shock:  and a fair old flow to say the least,

   Just heard on the local radio that the police have closed it off for safety reasons----- on 3 seperate occassions yesterday people had to be rescued from the roofs of there cars which had been washed away down stream :roll:   I dont know what vehicles were involved but  there was no mention of any 4x4s (trust me, our local radio would have mentioned it if they were)      I may be slightly more experienced than mr joe average on water crossings but it aint rocket science to see if the depth stick is showing 10 foot its propbally unlikely youre going to make it  #-o  

                 Might pop down there  over the near future to keep an eye on things though :wink:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Boggert on December 08, 2006, 12:15:02
He he he I know the ford well and use to avoid it in anything other than mid dry summer when I have my Astra!
Some people just don't think! LOL
Title: Re: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on December 08, 2006, 12:56:29
Quote from: "burgerman"
Might pop down there  over the near future to keep an eye on things though :wink:


With a long rope & a tin for 'donations' :wink:

Just like this Pete Wilford cartoon from his 2006 calendar :lol:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Jake on December 08, 2006, 14:03:40
Is this the same ford?
(http://www.kathandphil.co.uk/Pictures/OffRoading/NewMillFord_031206/images/IMG_5502.jpg)
New Mill Ford - Hampshire
It is quite deep  :shock:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Evilgoat on December 08, 2006, 14:13:10
Burgerman, that the one off the A339? (I think)
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: burgerman on December 08, 2006, 14:35:25
Quote from: "Evilgoat"
Burgerman, that the one off the A339? (I think)


    yea surely is (thinks it thornhill road :-k )  popped down there today for a shifty around, the water level has dropped back to about 3 feet (7 foot less than yesterday) But as i was wandering over the bridge some thing caught my eye down stream,   Pics to follow as soon as swmbo gets home to make em fit on here,( im a bit IT challenged :? )              

  Howdy jake--  no its not that one but now it very well though, have seen one or two vehicles pinned up against the bridge in the past though
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: TDi90 on December 08, 2006, 15:16:26
what caught your eye downstream?
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on December 08, 2006, 15:23:19
Quote from: "TD90"
what caught your eye downstream?


A flyfisherman down stream! :lol:

Sorry, that was a cr*p attempt at humour.

If it is the one I'm thinking of, it has a concrete bottom and curves round? I've done most of the fords in that area, during the summer, in a Job BMW 330 estate. It saved time washing the car and was more fun!
Title: New Mill ford
Post by: beattiedh on December 08, 2006, 15:36:28
I know the one.

It is usually like the below.

I went through one the other night up stream and it was over the boonet and up the screen. Not bad for a V8. However it was only about 30 feet across.

Mill lane is a good ford though but can be upt to 100ft across.
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Snooky on December 08, 2006, 17:10:15
The road is actually ThornFORD road, bit of a give away in the name I guess, I was going to have a look today to see how it was running, and wondering what has been seen downstream
I have seen it as a meer trickle and in full flow, anyone with an ounce of sense wouldn't try to cross it, but I did hear it on the radio today and had to chuckle.

Come on what did you see?
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on December 08, 2006, 20:44:43
Quote from: "Jake"
Is this the same ford?

New Mill Ford - Hampshire
It is quite deep  :shock:


That looks DEEP

Not the place for any Td5 :(
Title: Headly Ford Pics :-)
Post by: Ba_Lamb on December 08, 2006, 20:45:00
Here are Burgermans Pic's from today  :arrow:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: TDi90 on December 08, 2006, 21:11:17
SH11111111111111111111T thats not good... that really is deep... blimey  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: muddyjames on December 08, 2006, 21:52:52
Quote from: "Jake"
Is this the same ford?
(http://www.kathandphil.co.uk/Pictures/OffRoading/NewMillFord_031206/images/IMG_5502.jpg)
New Mill Ford - Hampshire
It is quite deep  :shock:


Nah. Thats new mill ford down new mill lane. You can get to it from either new mill lane funnily enough or from Eversley down st neots road and then down through lower common. Seen plenty of cars stuck in that ford. Used to be a postie to both sides of the ford. never tried taking a postie van through. wouldnt have been popular!!! I did that ford last sunday as well as few mins before that mud clubber went through. shame i missed them. Just down stream is ford lane and another ford crossing but worse than new mill lane. slightly deeper with massive pot holes either side that my tow bar catches on.

Headley looks very deep. is the lower car a vw sharan that I am guessing isnt designed for 10ft deep fords? I am no expert in mechanics but think that 1 is obvious!!!
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Boggert on December 08, 2006, 22:26:01
Any idea what the silver one is... was!, the red one looks like a Ford people carrier.
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: TDi90 on December 08, 2006, 22:44:07
VW looks like... VW sharon? VW people carrier of some sort...
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: muddyjames on December 08, 2006, 22:52:12
vw sharan, ford galaxy and seat alhambra are all the same shell. I am bit of a sad geek when it gomes to these people movers. I like em alright :wink: they make great vans and very economical doing 45mpg.
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: burgerman on December 09, 2006, 00:26:25
Not really sure what the silver one was?? guessing a renault?? the people carrier was about 100 yds down stream (backwards) and the silver "car" was probally 300 yds further down the stream (also backwards)

   Im guessing recovering them would be good to see
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Snooky on December 09, 2006, 10:01:44
Guess I may have to go have a look now as the river should have dried up a little, and before the next lot of rain tomorrow... :lol:
Wonder if they will get the insurance pay out for being so stupid..
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on December 09, 2006, 10:53:19
Some people are just daft. A guy I used to work with in Norfolk, took a Job Escort through a ford that he thought was OK, (strictly against orders though) the intake for the engine was at bumper height and the engine ingested lots of fresh water, and blew the head off.
He got done for dereliction of duty. Very expensive to repair, but not as bad as though two in the piccys. :lol:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Littledan on December 09, 2006, 15:55:50
:shock: what the hell was these people doin???

dan
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: thumbs on December 09, 2006, 17:20:45
driving through a ford dan lol!  :D
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Littledan on December 10, 2006, 00:40:29
Quote from: "thumbs"
driving through a ford dan lol!  :D


lol =D> should have guessed that  :wink:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: muddyjames on December 10, 2006, 21:32:25
No need to guess Dan it is all in colour photos and black and white writing :lol:

Would prob be worth asking the owners if 1 could buy the cars off them for silly money if the insurance wont pay up. Dry the car out, new head on engine or even engine rebuild would cost less than the price of a good non floating type mpv I would have thought?
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: burgerman on December 11, 2006, 09:27:34
there still in there (monday 11 th) if ya want um   :lol:   But take a very long tow rope with ya :shock:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Evilgoat on December 11, 2006, 09:46:49
Why not recvover em and leave them on the side of the road with stickers

'We may be climate killers but we just saved you £100's in recovery fees'
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: barnhill4x4 on December 11, 2006, 10:06:56
Quote from: "Evilgoat"
Why not recvover em and leave them on the side of the road with stickers

'We may be climate killers but we just saved you £100's in recovery fees'


  If I lived a bit closer I would be up for that. Trouble is you would probably end up getting sued for damaging thier cars!
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Evilgoat on December 11, 2006, 10:17:16
Quote from: "barnhill4x4"
Quote from: "Evilgoat"
Why not recvover em and leave them on the side of the road with stickers

'We may be climate killers but we just saved you £100's in recovery fees'


  If I lived a bit closer I would be up for that. Trouble is you would probably end up getting sued for damaging thier cars!


Not sure how you would stand given where they are. I would suspect the council could probobly authorise it though.
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Evilgoat on December 11, 2006, 14:43:46
Theres a Golf stuck in Eastleigh ford. Water was rapid moving and up to my door handles, felt a little bit of sideways movement going on too, What in earth made someone think they could get a golf through it?!

Poor thing is sat there watter papping at the window sills and obviously full.
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: burgerman on December 11, 2006, 16:52:13
i am concerned about  the amount of pollution going/gone into the river [-X  


      Ie all the different oils,fuel,battery acids, antifreeze the list goes on.....


im well up for a bit of recovery work if any siutably equiped people are up for it?? but would have to be done properly/safely (as always  :lol: )  incase the papers/radio got a snifff of whats going on :roll:
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: muddyjames on December 11, 2006, 17:14:21
Quote from: "barnhill4x4"
Quote from: "Evilgoat"
Why not recvover em and leave them on the side of the road with stickers

'We may be climate killers but we just saved you £100's in recovery fees'


  If I lived a bit closer I would be up for that. Trouble is you would probably end up getting sued for damaging thier cars!


If you find the owners you take along a typed letter saying during the recovery of your vehicle silver sharan reg no.............., you the driver accept all responsibilty for any damage caused to your own vehicle and anyother vehicle involved andanything else ie human, road surface etc and shall pay for all damages.

That is how myvoluntary group used to get around towing people out of a muddy field when we ran our festivle once a year and 99% of the time people are happy to sign it because if they didnt they were stuck there and if we saw anyone else towing cars we stopped them and escorted them off site.

Just have to find the owners!!!
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Evilgoat on December 11, 2006, 17:14:51
Quote from: "burgerman"
i am concerned about  the amount of pollution going/gone into the river [-X  


      Ie all the different oils,fuel,battery acids, antifreeze the list goes on.....


im well up for a bit of recovery work if any siutably equiped people are up for it?? but would have to be done properly/safely (as always  :lol: )  incase the papers/radio got a snifff of whats going on :roll:


I havent got the gear but I'd be up for helping. I gues sthe issue here is what happenes when the owners get back. Batteries and oil shouldnt be a problem as they are more or less sealed systems, however fuel will probobly be if they stay there too long.

Cars are probobly gonna be toast already so I'm not sure how things would stand in terms of damaging them during recovery.
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: muddyjames on December 11, 2006, 17:36:33
Has the people mover now been washed down stream and up to the roof with water? Any updated photos?

I am guessing with that ammount of water in them they will be very heavy to recover if not awekward.

I drove through a flood once in my rover 620 and water went over the bonnet. Guy who had just walked through told me it wasnt any deeper than knee height. I didnt know he was walking on the bank in the flood and also I made it through the deepest bit but paniked and put my foot down which was when the water went over the bonnet and put a piston out the oil sump. oops. didnt have a landy at the time. still have the rover with rebuilt engine and hug wood going strong at 217k on the clock. learnt my lesson though the hard way like the 2 guys have in the photos on pg1
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Snooky on December 12, 2006, 22:18:11
This is in the local paper, she got caught in a flash flood... :lol:
Apparently she became trapped in rising water, yeah trapped as she tried to drive a car through 8ft of water.
It took 21 firemen and five engines to rescue her, from 3 different stations...unbelieveable, should have been charged for it.

Best quote in the paper

" Environment agency spokesman said the flooding was due to rainwater"

Another budding rocket scientist no doubt  ](*,)
Title: HOW DUMB CAN PEOPLE BE ??
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on December 12, 2006, 22:33:23
Anyone remember the Audi trapped in Stanhope Ford last year?, where the occupant was rescued by helicopter
(It landed with a skid on the cars roof)

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