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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Tailendcharley on December 27, 2006, 15:25:33
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:) :) I see from the news that Saddams days are numbered now...I hope he hasn't booked a skiing holiday for sometime in February but what I was wondering is what happened to all those Land Rovers he bought when he was in power...are they all parked up in some big underground carpark somewhere in the dessert...what a waste........back to my corner now....all the very best to everyone for the New Year....
:wink: :wink: Terry (wish I had a Land Rover) Smith :wink: :wink:
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So, Bush gets his desire.
Bush is more dangerous than Saddam, if you do the reading with an open mind.
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Me thinks Bush is on his way out along with his poodle Blair.
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Me thinks Bush is on his way out along with his poodle Blair.
The thing with Bushes is that you know there will be another one along before to long :roll:
The organ grinder might not be very good but wait until the monkey takes over
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Me thinks Bush is on his way out along with his poodle Blair.
Yup, they have lined their pockets, they will be gone and forgotten soon I hope....Real shame about the aircraft that overshot the runway by 15".........Nevermind, what goes around does indeed come around :D
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I think it is a criminal act to for them to murder Saddam.
If there is to be a free, open and democratic election in Iraq then Saddam must be allowed to stand as a candidate. The people of that nation can then decide if they want him as a leader, not Bush and Blair.
He may have been a tyrant but the advancement and opportunity of the general population were his aims.
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:D :D I think you're all absolutely right...it was'nt all that long ago that Saddam,the Americans and us were all mates of his...when you expand that fact and take into account the Taliban who were armed and financed by the C.I.A. then you start to realize what bent,crooked and two faced people we have in power .....off my soapbox and back to my corner...bye for now..........
:wink: :wink: Terry (disillusioned) Smith :wink: :wink:
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I can't see what good can come from killing Saddam. If he did murder all those people then lock him upand throw away the key.
I can kind of understand why we had to remove him in the first place this is not right.
David
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I don't believe in the death penalty. Sorry its wrong.
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eye for an eye...........
peter henry
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The problem is that it is a Catch 22 situation. Hussein has murdered thousands of his own people, but execution is going to make him a martyr in the eyes of the vast majority of the Muslim world.
Maybe if he was put in prison somewhere and 'left' he would be forgotten about, much like the war crimes trials that went on in relation to the Serbia/Bosnia conflict.
Again being 'devils advocate', if Bin Laden is caught, tried at court and a death penalty announced, would the feelings still be the same? Lets face it, he was trained and supported by the CIA as well.
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i thought he was being tried by the iraqis? and that its their law thats being carried out. yes he may have been dethroned by the allied forces and then caught by them but if he is being tried by his own people under their own law whats the problem? any western society always has a problem with the sentencing carried out by islamic countries, its a difference of culture
we give an asbo for stealing they cut your hand off :shock:
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whatever their system of law is just look at the state of the place and its neighbours. then ask yourself if it works.....no, it dont in my view
you dont see our country behaving like that, firing guns into the air celebrating etc. etc.
if they never had oil the whole story would be different i suspect.
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i thought he was being tried by the iraqis? and that its their law thats being carried out. yes he may have been dethroned by the allied forces and then caught by them but if he is being tried by his own people under their own law whats the problem? any western society always has a problem with the sentencing carried out by islamic countries, its a difference of culture
we give an asbo for stealing they cut your hand off :shock:
That is exactly the point that made His Blairness squirm at the press confrence after the announcement of the vedict.
Yes, he was tried by an Iraqi court, but it was perhaps a forgone conclusion as to what the result would be.
Perhaps if he had been tried by an International Tribunal then the opinions may have been different.
The main thing surely is that the sooner it is all done with the better, so the Forces can get back home without any more lives being lost on both sides.
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whatever their system of law is just look at the state of the place and its neighbours. then ask yourself if it works.....no, it dont in my view
you dont see our country behaving like that, firing guns into the air celebrating etc. etc.
if they never had oil the whole story would be different i suspect.
you dont see us doing it as our culture is different they were like it before the oil came, its just the oil allowed them to change from scimitars to ak47,s
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I must admit that I don't quite understand how a country that has never had a democratic system such as ours( :shock: ) and has only been used to a tribal or single party system, can just suddenly change.
It would be like the UK suddenly being told that we have to do as we are told, without freedom of choice, and all the political parties singing from the same hymn sheet.
Hang on a minute...............................
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We do not have a democracy, we have majority rule.
Not a democracy in any ones book, it is only democratic during voting, once votes have been cast, it is a ruling majority.
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We do not have a democracy, we have majority rule.
Not a democracy in any ones book, it is only democratic during voting, once votes have been cast, it is a ruling majority.
I have always thought the current system is a electoral dictatorship
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all 3 major parties are all the same - claim they support the people, then when elected shaft us all and vote them selves a 40% payrise...and as for green policies!!! :evil:
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i thought he was being tried by the iraqis? and that its their law thats being carried out. yes he may have been dethroned by the allied forces and then caught by them but if he is being tried by his own people under their own law whats the problem? any western society always has a problem with the sentencing carried out by islamic countries, its a difference of culture
we give an asbo for stealing they cut your hand off :shock:
Except that Iraqi law doesn't allow the death penalty to be used for a former president (or somthing like that anyway)
Under Iraqi law, Hussain shouldn't be killed.
Under British law he couldn't be killed,
yet US law does allow the death penalty, which is whats going to happen. In the US lesser crims end up on death row for donkeys years, so saddam gets 2 months?
Its all BS. They should have killed him 'by accident' when they captured him.
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i thought he was being tried by the iraqis? and that its their law thats being carried out. yes he may have been dethroned by the allied forces and then caught by them but if he is being tried by his own people under their own law whats the problem? any western society always has a problem with the sentencing carried out by islamic countries, its a difference of culture
we give an asbo for stealing they cut your hand off :shock:
Except that Iraqi law doesn't allow the death penalty to be used for a former president (or somthing like that anyway)
Under Iraqi law, Hussain shouldn't be killed.
Under British law he couldn't be killed,
yet US law does allow the death penalty, which is whats going to happen. In the US lesser crims end up on death row for donkeys years, so saddam gets 2 months?
Its all BS. They should have killed him 'by accident' when they captured him.
It would certainly have saved a lot of money. I'm sure that the line of "Oops, sorry, we thought he was trying to escape!" could have been used.
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Lawnmower has a point it would have been a lot better for everyone if Saddam had 'died evading capture'. He would have been a hero for a short time but then forgotten.
For the americans to allow him to be sentenced to death is perhaps their BIGGEST mistake in a couple of years.
The court case was a travasty and is seen as such throughout the muslim world (the first judge was removed because he upheld an application made by the defence that the prosocution objected to for a start).
Saddam will now appear to the muslim world as an antiwest martyre rather than the overbearing dictator that he was (although that is a judgment based on western values rather than arabic values). Even the radical sheites will bulk against it as it is a sign that any ruler could be killed at the behest of the americans.
A far better solution would have been to exile him to some pacific island paradis with all the mod cons and then periodicaly release video of him enjoying himself on the beach.
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The first mistake that America did (after putting/help him in power to start with) was that they didn't finish the job off properly when they had legitimate reason at the time of the first Gulf War. Everything after that has been staged to 'protect' the people of USA :?
Somehow Iraq got dragged into the excuse that it was all in the interest of fighting terrorism.
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Saddam Hussein executed in Iraq
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6218485.stm
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Helmet on everybody! :o Things are going to really become hell for those still out in Iraq. :(
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I think they gave him preferential treatment. Did you see the size of that noose :shock: Biggest one I've ever seen :shock:
He had a good innings of 69 years, there's many good decent folk that die a lot earlier than that. I can't help feel though that he was lead astray by others, as often happens, but he has paid the price for riding with them.