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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: davidjmiller on December 30, 2006, 19:35:27
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OK guys, so did some searches on here the other night and it seems that the solution to my V8 and water ingress problems is not the crappy 8-fingered glove which is on there at the moment but some Castrol Motorcycle Chain Wax.
When I got it home I was surprised to see its flammable and therefore I gues it should not go on hot surfaces. Given that I also have a Lucads electronic ignition system - where exactly should I spray and is there anywhere I should not.
In particular, I was thinking of spraying it all along the leads right up the plugs / engine but now I think this could cause a fire.
Would like to use tomorrow (Sunday am) as its raining heavily here then I can go and check out the local fords.
Thanks,
David
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i use spray greese it sticks to every thing and water replant
i spray the coil all terminals
all over dizzy cap lots of it
and over the by the plugs etc
and that seems to work last time i went out water was over the bonnet and not a splutter
even with the fan spraying it every way
but ive heard the wax is ok as well
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I got some ignition sealant and was careful in the preparation. It seemed to work well enough in conjunction with a pop bottle here and there to protect sundry bits like the coil from splashing.
Won't any sort of grease attrract muck over a time and be more likely to create problems when damp? The ignition sealant dried shiny and wasn't tacky although I did wonder if it would crack at some stage.
Mike
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So, DrMike and Wheeler, can you confirm that the things you used were flammable?? If so I can take your advice but if your not sure then I still need to be careful?
The consensus on the forum was that although the grease was good it was dirty, caused problems later and seemed to collect crap. The wax, I think, spays on but then "hardens" to form a waterproof film which acts as a sealent.
Best wishes,
David
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I can't say if the stuff was flammable but I know I sprayed it on the dizzie and the HT leads on my V8 and it didn't burn.
I think if you held a lit match to it as it came out of the can then it would burn but the V8 got good and hot with no problems.
Bear in mind this stuff was designed to seal HT leads etc. not grease chains.
Mike
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hi the spray greese i used was high temp
so i guess non flamable i put this on drove 30 miles off roaded all day and 30 miles back
and no probs
and will be using it again
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your driving in mudy water and every other part on the rover is covered in mud :P :P any how i jet wash mine after every event and coat it again before i go offroading
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I can vouch for Spray grease, Viscolube i think its called.. I cant remember if its flammable or not.. But it worked a treat!
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It's the stuff they use to make it spray that's flamable, if not it would be wax and won't come out of the can, so when spraying a bike chain it is more fluid, then the propellant (however spelt) and the other stuff evaporates to leave a wax coating on the chain :lol:
Hope that makes sense :wink:
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I use motorcycle chain wax on my Rangie to good affect and have never had problems. Also have a rubber mat "guard" in front of dizzy. It helps to have an air gap which you don't get when you use rubber boot covers like the 8 fingered glove because cold water hitting the cover/cap can cause condensation and make the problem worse. Best way to water proof is to "vent" the cap by drilling two holes. A breather pipe going to one and a vacuum pipe from the air inlet pipe (not the manifold as it will affect the mixture) going to the other.
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I use white greaser on Blue, better than the tuff toys thing that perished anyway. It's the propellant (butane) that's highly flamable, once on it's no worse than anything else under the bonnet.
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OK, so yesterday I gave the machine two good layers of the wax (and this is also over the 8-fingered glovey thing). Today went to some of the local fords as seen at the excellent wetroads site (thanks Lee if you are reading this!!) at....
http://vamp.idlers.org/~jaffa/cambridgeshire.htm
First of all did Bourn which was looking good given the recent rainfall (pretty much as in the wetroads pictures)....
http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?gride=531700&gridn=257250&scale=25000&coordsys=gb
which was great (were you the guy in the Disco coming the other way with a big smile!!!)
and then went on to the small splash at Hilton.....
http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?gride=529180&gridn=266130&scale=25000&coordsys=gb
.....which was better than normal but still just a second or so as you cross the stream.
Well, there was not one single cough or splutter - excellent (although I did switch from LPG over to petrol - which is a mistake i think I made before).
So far, so good.
MudClub advice comes up trumps again. Cheers,
David
p.s. this is almost like one of BTM's "out and about" posts ;-)
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The big probelm with the dizzy on the V8 is that is has holes in the bottom. as well as letting some water in around the leads and cap etc. Water enters the dizzy from underneath and soaks the mecahnism. You dry the dizzy and the problem returns from the water still trapped inside the dizzy body (all that condensation in the cap is a giveaway). The holes keep the main gizzards of the dizzy at atmospheric pressure and are impertive to the operation of the vacuum advance system.
However there is a cheap and very cheerful solution possible, more details can be found here:
http://www.rhel.co.uk/tomcattech/dizzy.htm
So, the suggested mod, plus good leads, plus a dose of chain wax over the top and most of your wet running problems go away. Beleive me, it works. 8)
But do not be tempted to manifold the dizzy breathers in with your axle / gearbox breathers etc, because it will upset the vacuum advance on the dizzy :wink: .
HTH
Cheers
8)
Eeyore
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cheers for that - thats now on the to-do list as well.