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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: markyb on January 04, 2007, 16:56:54

Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: markyb on January 04, 2007, 16:56:54
Im coming back to landie seen again after many years of zuks and looking at possibilities

i presume you need a 2 inch lift as 33s go straight on stock, anything else like trimming?

whats the gearing like, i can see you can get more power out the 200tdi but low box off road does it have a major effect,  in hi will it still maintain nice 65-70mph up hills on the motorway
 bearing wear etc,

the 200 TDI 110 will be used to go to far away places so will see a fair amount of road use running a MT type tyre over the more agressive simex type,

Would i be just as well to stick with 33s to keep the reliability there with good gearing.


ive been used to a massive 140 % gear reduction in low range and it nice not to have to drive the point and shot option of too high a gear. anyone running 35 can you give me your oppion please. or any gearing options.
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: extreme90 on January 04, 2007, 17:37:18
now afink the 110's run a 1.6 transfere box, wich, in conjunstion with 35inch tyres gives not bad results

to help abit here, my 90 runs std diff ratios and a std transfer box and tyre wise has 35 inch simex, before fitting uprated intercooler it was ok but bit crap, now i got a full width intercooler, it absolutly flys up hills fully laden (around 2.35ton ish mark)
so with muds that got less resitance, it shouldnt be bad

if any of that makes sense  :oops:
dan
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: markyb on January 04, 2007, 18:09:57
yeah ,  nice one mate,  

will get Steve to do a bit of fuel pump tweaks, yeah bigger shinny intercooler is on the list.

maybe a tweak of the turbo with out destroying the head gasket.


35s is more so when i go playing i dont get stuck in the ruts left behind by the simex crowd :-)  or at least attempt not to get stuck behind :-)



other question is ARB in the saisbury diff.  heard different things so far,
i remeber the shimms and setting the preload whilst in the car, painful setup from what i can rember unlike zuk diff rangies etc.

in the arb install you leave the pinion alone, is there old carrier an easy one to remove i heard you might need to stretch bits to get it fitted. in to the housing,   but the limited saisbury diff experience i have was many moons ago and it was just to inspection type and setup checks,

Have a silly urge to go take one apart now,lol
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: extreme90 on January 04, 2007, 18:27:12
:lol:
i can rebuild diffs, but i cba i just go over to crown diffs, top bloke cheap as chips
easier let him faff around than me
my turbo runs at 1.1bar an no problems with head gaskets for 5thou ish
and mines boiled over aswel  :shock:
stupid leccy fan  :evil:
dan
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: Xtremeteam on January 04, 2007, 18:38:27
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"
now afink the 110's run a 1.6 transfere box, wich, in conjunstion with 35inch tyres gives not bad results

dan


you dont half talk some [bollards] :lol:  :lol:  the only 110's that had a 1.6 Tbox was the N/a ones,everything else had 1.4's
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: extreme90 on January 04, 2007, 18:47:34
Quote from: "Redlinemike"
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"
now afink the 110's run a 1.6 transfere box, wich, in conjunstion with 35inch tyres gives not bad results

dan


you dont half talk some bollards :lol:  :lol:  the only 110's that had a 1.6 Tbox was the N/a ones,everything else had 1.4's


pmsl i like that bolards
ye well i dont no, it could be a n/a chassis dip sh** converted to 200tdi  :wink:
anyhows u talk bollards cos a 200 will pull 35's and 33's on a 1.4
so go back sheep  :roll:in U  :lol:  :lol:
ok i really am running now
 :lol:
o gud job u aint seen my pst in the bar wat i sed bowt u  :lol:
wel at least a dont think  :lol:
dan
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: Xtremeteam on January 04, 2007, 19:00:33
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"
Quote from: "Redlinemike"
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"
now afink the 110's run a 1.6 transfere box, wich, in conjunstion with 35inch tyres gives not bad results

dan


you dont half talk some bollards :lol:  :lol:  the only 110's that had a 1.6 Tbox was the N/a ones,everything else had 1.4's


pmsl i like that bolards
ye well i dont no, it could be a n/a chassis dip sh** converted to 200tdi  :wink:
anyhows u talk bollards cos a 200 will pull 35's and 33's on a 1.4
so go back sheep  :roll:in U  :lol:  :lol:
ok i really am running now
 :lol:
o gud job u aint seen my pst in the bar wat i sed bowt u  :lol:
wel at least a dont think  :lol:
dan


just edited your post n it proves that some of those from SOT cant spell  :lol:  :lol:
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: extreme90 on January 04, 2007, 20:15:59
ooo ino we al think as pig sit hear  :lol:

lmao

ur 90 gonna b evenly distrubuted all around clog now  :wink:

dan
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: Xtremeteam on January 04, 2007, 20:42:30
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"
ooo ino we al think as pig sit hear  :lol:

lmao

ur 90 gonna b evenly distrubuted all around clog now  :wink:

dan

your heap o scrap is gonna be left in prison rough
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: markyb on January 04, 2007, 21:28:37
i like to see the old banta , i thought i might be leaving that behind but glad to say that im not leaving it behind,  

see you all i the mud,
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: extreme90 on January 04, 2007, 22:01:29
Quote from: "Redlinemike"
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"
ooo ino we al think as pig sit hear  :lol:

lmao

ur 90 gonna b evenly distrubuted all around clog now  :wink:

dan

your heap o scrap is gonna be left in prison rough


that heap of scrap will be dragging you box of scrap out of it  :wink:  :wink:

sorry mark, we have a tendancy of being on topic one minute then the next minute ripping into each other, good job were hundreds of miles apart  :lol:
for now  :twisted:
dan
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: markyb on January 05, 2007, 12:12:59
no problems, thread invasion is great lol
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: Timi on January 05, 2007, 17:44:03
Quote from: "markyb"
no problems, thread invasion is great lol


Yes they are all full of boll-anter here, have you seen size of my intercooler?
So it is true then what I read on Surrey Off's.

Tim
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: markyb on January 05, 2007, 17:46:42
yeah mate, defender it is ,   dont think i will go down the series route ever again
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: Timi on January 05, 2007, 17:49:48
Quote from: "markyb"
yeah mate, defender it is ,   dont think i will go down the series route ever again


The series? not the suzuki route.

Regarding the 35's, is it the 90 Tbox you need to change for lower gearing or was it that if you had 90 you wanted 110 tbox for same reason?
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: muddysteve on January 05, 2007, 18:13:54
Quote from: "Timi"
Quote from: "markyb"
yeah mate, defender it is ,   dont think i will go down the series route ever again


The series? not the suzuki route.

Regarding the 35's, is it the 90 Tbox you need to change for lower gearing or was it that if you had 90 you wanted 110 tbox for same reason?


no muppet its the defender Tbox you want on a Disco/Rangie to lower the gearing
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: Timi on January 05, 2007, 20:08:43
no muppet its the defender Tbox you want on a Disco/Rangie to lower the gearing[/quote]
well that is obvious because i don't have a defender, but I thought the ratios were different on the 110 to the 90.
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: muddysteve on January 06, 2007, 14:41:24
Quote from: "Timi"
no muppet its the defender Tbox you want on a Disco/Rangie to lower the gearing

well that is obvious because i don't have a defender, but I thought the ratios were different on the 110 to the 90.[/quote]

only on the very early ones i believe, think the tdi's all have 1.410 box
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: markyb on January 06, 2007, 20:45:23
yeah 1.4  

when you getting a defender then  Tim
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: 110crewcab on January 10, 2007, 21:55:18
hi all,
       well i run a 300 tdi on bfg 35s and it pulls fine on and off road, all i did was remove centre box fit kn filtter and tweak pump a little
that is allso mated to a disco transfer box for top speed to.

   I have rear salisbury axle with arb in it, you dont touch the pinion shaft all you do is fit crown wheel onto new hub and shim up as required the instructions are v v good.

but you will need a tool to slightly compress the axle case as this provides the preload on the bearings.
i have access to the said tool if needed[/b]
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: markyb on January 12, 2007, 07:14:22
thanks a lot mate,   i was toying with 33s or 35s.  as i have a set of good 33s at present.

£65 for ARB installation i reckon i will be lazy :-)
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: 110crewcab on January 12, 2007, 12:02:23
hi
   i used to run 33 wildcat ext on 110, but when they got to worn i up graded to 35s youneed the clearance with that rear axle :lol:
£65 not worth getting hands dirty mate
good luck 35 and arb its all in hand now mate just add mud 8)
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: adafish on January 12, 2007, 16:02:17
11o     shows a pic of ya motor, myself got DC, and looking for big rubber, my tyres look small....265/75/16.........ADA
Title: 35s on a 200 TDI 110
Post by: markyb on January 12, 2007, 19:20:36
cool.

a few pics will be cool
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