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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Big G on February 04, 2007, 16:05:26

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Big G on February 04, 2007, 16:05:26

Whats the alternatives to Jate rings as recovery points at the rear of the Defender?

Any pictures or suggestions greatly appreciated..........G

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Snooky on February 04, 2007, 17:43:34

I'll be using the tow ball if I need to for now, have added one Jate ring, but considering fabricating something to attach to the tow bar, not too sure what yet though.

There is a guy making ones that attach through the jacking points of the rear cross member, can be found on Ebay

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: smo on February 04, 2007, 17:53:22

Tow bar, rear winch or recovery ring bolted to/though the rear corssmember :)

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Jim-Willy on February 04, 2007, 18:30:29

Tow ball attached to rear x member with a spreader plate on the back is what i have........

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Big G on February 05, 2007, 09:25:29

I have been looking at those swivel recovery eyes at about thirty quid a go but am not sure if I`ve got the room on the rear crossmember to get two on. I have a towbar and the electric socket as well. Thanks for all replies up to now.... :-k

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: SteveG on February 05, 2007, 09:49:34

Another option is one of these from LRS Off-Road..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/sgl322/Truck%20Cab/Additional%20Mods/DefMods004Medium.jpg)

Cheers

Steve

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Ben on February 05, 2007, 12:03:46

I've got a NATO hitch (still) waiting to fit...

Anyone know what spec of bolts I need (thread, length etc)?

Planning to get a removable tow bar eventually when they've been type approved for towing - seems pointless getting a tow bar that I can't legally use!

Cheers

Ben

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Mudmonkey on February 05, 2007, 17:05:25

This (http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=617&hl=nato) is what ill be doing when ive got a spare few hours and some plate! :P

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/sclfk/natohitch/22142897lg.jpg)

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: TDi90 on February 05, 2007, 17:19:58

Quote from: "Ben"

I've got a NATO hitch (still) waiting to fit...

Anyone know what spec of bolts I need (thread, length etc)?

M10 x 120

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Muddy on February 05, 2007, 17:43:03

Yep NATO hook thats what i have, about an hour it took me to fit including making and drilling the spreader plate and making the the bolts.

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: graemeELLIOTT on February 06, 2007, 08:17:01

http://www.macmillan4x4.co.uk/Photos/recovery.html

some reading there

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Big G on February 06, 2007, 10:32:58

Thanks for all the replies lads.....keep um coming.

My problems and thoughts as follows.....

I have a Dixon bate tow ball and pin fitted on a plate at the moment (Two bolt Version), this is useful because I do occasionally tow an ordinary trailer with the tow ball.

The Nato hitch is obviously good and heavy duty but I don't pull a Sankey etc.

I like the idea of the loops like the equipe one and the swivel eyes but I cant keep my tow ball as well as have them.

What to do?....................
 :(thinkhard):

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2007, 12:46:07

Quote from: "Snooky"

There is a guy making ones that attach through the jacking points of the rear cross member, can be found on Ebay

Just done a search on eBay, but can't find anything... Anyone seen any anywhere else? Think they may be better than relying on the NATO hitch fitted through my tin foil TD5 rear crossmember :roll:

Cheers

Ben

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Snooky on February 06, 2007, 13:39:32

These are the ones I have seen
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/defender-rear-anchor-points_W0QQitemZ200073566099QQihZ010QQcategoryZ31348QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Can't say if they are any good or how strong they are but if someone esle can comment it doesn't seem a bad price for 2

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2007, 14:42:40

They look like a good idea, but it doesn't look like he's sold any (done a completed items search...).

I'd be interested on any comments... Anyone seen review in the magazines?

I've asked the seller a question about it, but wondered if anyone else had seen anything...

Perhaps I should ask Jerry Thurston. Anyone know how to contact him?
Cheers

Ben

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: iomlr on February 06, 2007, 14:53:31

Quote from: "Mudmonkey"

This (http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=617&hl=nato) is what ill be doing when ive got a spare few hours and some plate! :P

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/sclfk/natohitch/22142897lg.jpg)

What paint did you use on that and the bumper looks very tidy!

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Porny on February 06, 2007, 15:23:13

Quote from: "Ben"

Perhaps I should ask Jerry Thurston. Anyone know how to contact him?
Cheers

Ben

Drop him a pm... as he's on here!!
His user name is quite easy to find  :wink: (is 'jerry thurston')


Ian

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Sharpshooter on February 06, 2007, 16:17:29

I made these. I made them from stainless. The push through from the rear. They are 1 1/8th of an inch through the hole. About 6" long in total.

(http://img2013.photobox.co.uk/932513392a18526f0610f7259c3243c3f38a7ac751b7f28cd8a5dbf379da62ed91b0725a.jpg)
(http://img2013.photobox.co.uk/778457098a9d234685380353218a8e59cd98b0932bb18d8d5602ac54106d1a65a919eb66.jpg)
(http://img2013.photobox.co.uk/770123757d495fe76203733d8d1a7c086431487800049219c5cfccb6f3cf97e99fc8e019.jpg)

Very strong, and i brace the two with a good strop. :D  :D

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Mudmonkey on February 06, 2007, 17:36:56

Quote from: "iomlr"

Quote from: "Mudmonkey"

This (http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=617&hl=nato) is what ill be doing when ive got a spare few hours and some plate! :P

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/sclfk/natohitch/22142897lg.jpg)

What paint did you use on that and the bumper looks very tidy!

Thats not mine its the pic off of the link i posted. It does look pretty nice that crossmomber though. Really smooth! :P

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Big G on February 06, 2007, 18:46:53

Quote from: "Sharpshooter"

I made these. I made them from stainless. The push through from the rear. They are 1 1/8th of an inch through the hole. About 6" long in total.

(http://img2013.photobox.co.uk/932513392a18526f0610f7259c3243c3f38a7ac751b7f28cd8a5dbf379da62ed91b0725a.jpg)
(http://img2013.photobox.co.uk/778457098a9d234685380353218a8e59cd98b0932bb18d8d5602ac54106d1a65a919eb66.jpg)
(http://img2013.photobox.co.uk/770123757d495fe76203733d8d1a7c086431487800049219c5cfccb6f3cf97e99fc8e019.jpg)

Very strong, and i brace the two with a good strop. :D  :D

Would have thought a spreader plate at the back of that crossmember would have been a good idea.....?

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Sharpshooter on February 06, 2007, 18:55:10

The problem is, the tube protrudes past the flat of the rear x member. Otherwise i would have. You only need to stop the pin puling through the tube.

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2007, 20:26:37

Quote from: "Porny"

Drop him a pm... as he's on here!!
His user name is quite easy to find  :wink: (is 'jerry thurston')

Doh! Didn't think of that  :oops:

Have sent him a PM :wink:

Cheers

Ben

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Big G on February 06, 2007, 20:47:18

Ha Ha I see the light...........they push through the jacking point tubes.....

Cracking Idea.....simple when you think...........whats everybody else reckon?

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Big G on February 06, 2007, 20:49:18

Quote from: "Ben"

[quote="Porny]Drop him a pm... as he's on here!!
His user name is quite easy to find  :wink: (is 'jerry thurston')

Doh! Didn't think of that  :oops:

Have sent him a PM :wink:

Cheers

Ben[/quote]


Look out.......... he`s behind you....!..... :(biggrin):

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Mudmonkey on February 16, 2007, 00:45:59

Quote from: "TD90"

Quote from: "Ben"

I've got a NATO hitch (still) waiting to fit...

Anyone know what spec of bolts I need (thread, length etc)?

M10 x 120

Arnt NATO hitches M12x150? :?

Title: Rear Recovery points..where?
Post by: Ben on February 18, 2007, 18:52:59

Well, I bit the bullet at Donnington today, and have bought a pair of the shackles that go through the cross member. Not too difficult to fit (took about 15 minutes), and there's just enough clearance between the rear fold down step and the bumperettes.

They look pretty good (although I've removed the shackles themselves so they don't get thieved :roll: ).

I'm not planning on using them for anything too serious, and I'm still planning to fit the NATO hitch as a second option.

Now all I need to do is get some slots ground into the front steering guard so that the JATE rings fit!

Photo's to follow when I get round to it!

Cheers

Ben