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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: martha focker on February 11, 2007, 18:44:57

Title: Water & winches
Post by: martha focker on February 11, 2007, 18:44:57
What effect does regular water crossing have on a standard winch set-up.
I want to fit a new front winch, but I'm concerned about water damage to electrics etc. Is there lots of maintenance/cleaning involved? :(bigangry):
Title: Water & winches
Post by: Xtremeteam on February 11, 2007, 18:47:36
well
no winch is 100% waterproof

personally i have my solenoids up in the engine bay high up,hav the motor casing & ends sealed onto the winch housing & also the winch itself sealed as best i can & it still needs checking fairly regularly,if im doing a lot of wading & winching out of gittery holes then a strip down n check is called for
Title: Water & winches
Post by: Budgie on February 11, 2007, 18:50:49
Yes, if you want the winch to last.  :wink:

Best thing is to strip the winch when you get it, put silicone sealer around the where the motor and gearbox joins the drum.
The worst is muddy water, as the earth contained in it will soon eat bearings and the armature of the motor.

After a days drenching the winch should be stripped, cleaned, new grease put in the gearbox and then rebuilt.
Title: Water & winches
Post by: simonred90 on February 11, 2007, 21:36:27
the only way to be sure is to strip and clean after every deep water venture. if you dont, expect problems.
serious modifications can be done to some winches to improve there water resistance tho.
Title: Water & winches
Post by: extreme90 on February 11, 2007, 22:42:52
huskey's and 8274's are really the only waterproofish winches around in standard format, altho both of mine now are fully wet proofed and work fully submerged in water  :roll:
the epi9 can be made waterproofed, motor end so it can be run underwater, but i had to alloy weld the drumsupport and add a breather to the motor, however the gearbox couldnt be made waterproof so i just reguarly stripped,cleaned and packet full of 2-4-c marine grease  :wink:
dan
Title: Water & winches
Post by: rollazuki on February 11, 2007, 23:25:04
T-max outback, sold as watertight, definitely not.
like its been said already, boat grease, silicon sealant, and a regular strip to check internal condition.

I now dont dunk the winch unless its very neccesary, it dont do em any good.

Rolla :(
Title: Water & winches
Post by: lenrover on February 11, 2007, 23:41:38
speak to david bowyer at goodwinch I remember askin him a simlar question about 2 year ago at billing very helpful bloke

http://www.goodwinch.co.uk/
Title: Water & winches
Post by: martha focker on February 11, 2007, 23:46:13
Thanks for all of your help guys. :(biggrin):
Title: Water & winches
Post by: extreme90 on February 11, 2007, 23:59:31
where abouts in staffs are you ?
if you need a hand with your winch, ill be more than willing to show you how  :wink:
dan
Title: Water & winches
Post by: martha focker on February 12, 2007, 00:09:29
Thanks for the offer mate, but i think i will be ok.
 :lol:

oh i am from near leek.  :(biggrin):
Title: Water & winches
Post by: extreme90 on February 12, 2007, 00:22:31
urrm, afink ino you,  :lol:
isnt that weston coyney in the pic ???
wernt you in a nearly std 90, with a 300 chassis underneath her ?? L reg ??
or am i just being blinde ??
u were speaking to me and jim, a blue disco ??
with everything on and me in my green 90 with everything on ?
or is it just me  :roll:   :lol:
dan
o and your oil light was on constant  :shock:   :lol:
Title: Water & winches
Post by: martha focker on February 12, 2007, 00:34:50
I was there but mine is h reg, with a galved chas, and 300tdi

might have spoke :?: , dunno
Title: Water & winches
Post by: extreme90 on February 12, 2007, 00:46:37
s'ok, no wasnt u  :lol:
very similar landy tho
u see me ??
Title: Water & winches
Post by: extreme90 on February 12, 2007, 00:49:32
drop me a pm next time you go, as i go virtualy avery time, just look for big plumes of black smoke and mud flying everywhere, or the ratchet sound of a 8274 and you'll no its me  :lol:
altho it wont be green this time around, silver and blue 2 tone  :twisted:  to wreck  :cry:
dan
Title: Water & winches
Post by: martha focker on February 12, 2007, 00:51:18
didn't you get winched out of the middle, as you were the only one to try and go through. :(thinkhard):
Title: Water & winches
Post by: extreme90 on February 12, 2007, 01:02:25
:lol:   :twisted:
wel, it was screaming out to have a new path,  :lol:
yup was me, took 2 8274's get me out me and my m8s on disco  :shock:
thats how bad it is
beware tho, i am going straigh down the middle of the lot the next time im up there  :twisted:
200ft winch through a bog  :twisted:  should be fun.......long.......but fun  :twisted:
ill let you no when it happening as i dont no if ill be making it this month  :cry:  my 90 having her annual make over  :twisted:
dan
Title: Water & winches
Post by: martha focker on February 12, 2007, 01:08:00
cya soon and u got a nice rig, goodluck with the makeover. :(bigsmoke):
Title: Water & winches
Post by: Littledan on February 12, 2007, 01:35:41
we had our soilnoids in the seat tray where the battery was but our which had air vents in it and the clay at tixover got in and [!Expletive Deleted!] it :(

dan
Title: Water & winches
Post by: Defender on February 12, 2007, 18:29:26
Another option for a waterproof setup is either a hydraulic winch or a mechanical PTO winch.
The PTO ones are getting hard to get hold of, but they do still surface occasionally. I had one fitted to my old Series 3. What a fantastic piece of kit. Even managed to recover a bogged Unimog with a single line pull after a Huskey winch stalled on a double line pull trying to recover it. :)
Title: Water & winches
Post by: martha focker on February 13, 2007, 22:15:07
Thanks for all your help. :D
Title: Water & winches
Post by: extreme90 on February 13, 2007, 22:30:01
here
your sig.... rib.net.....you into your boats then ???
thats what ive got  :wink:
dan
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