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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: laser_jock99 on February 14, 2007, 13:13:52
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http://www.carboncalculator.info/Default.aspx
Okay over 100 miles my Hilux releases 40Kg!
What does your 4x4 do?
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Load of b8ll8cks that site - takes no account whatsoever of the fact that my V8 110 is 21 years old and therefore I have saved a huge amount of emissions by not changing the car for a new one every three years as a lot of people do
I could leave it running 24/7 and it still wouldnt catch up - except I couldn't afford the petrol to do this ! :wink:
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They don't have an option for the Series IIA land Rover. So i guess i'm carbon nuetral then :lol:
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They dont have the option for a defender 90 hard top either :(
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I like the 'if you took public transport......' bit. Particularly the 'up to.....' part.
I assume that means it is likely to increase your carbon footprint in most circumstances because the bus or train only has three passengers on it :roll: And of course, there is the 7 mile taxi journey (each way, so 28 miles assuming I want to go home again!) to get me to the nearest railway station or bus route :lol:
As already said, what a load of spheroids. Can people really be so gullible as to take this sort of stuff as gospel?
There was an e-mail from a viewer of BBC Breakfast the other morning. The viewer was boasting about his carbon footprint...... His wife drove a Prius (!!!) and got 50mpg out of it....... err, is that all??? Most small cars do 40mpg anyway. And they don't have banks of batteries manufactured and to be disposed of in 5 years time. And the best bit...... he drove an electric car that produced zero carbon emissions :roll: Err, really???! Why isn't he the richest man in the world? He must have invented a perpetual motion machine.
It appears there *are* people gullible enough to believe this drivel.
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mine too old 8)
I planted 2 trees 8) (but I didnt hug them :lol: )
Steve
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I planted 2 trees 8) (but I didnt hug them :lol: )
Steve
We planted several fruit trees the other weekend..... hang on, that can't be right..... apparently we're all planet killing heathens!!
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200tdi 110.... not there... must be carbon neutral also! take that, greenies
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Just did it on the 4x4 and i take the bus to work at 5:30am i save .4 of somthing.
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I planted 2 trees 8) (but I didnt hug them :lol: )
Steve
Just did a quick sum and during the late 80's/ early 90'2 I was in charge of a squad that planted approx 3800 ha of trees all over Scotland and north England
At an average of 2000 trees per hectare this makes 7,600,000 trees ! :shock:
I must have planted in excess of a million trees personally so they can all b*gger off and I shall drive what I damn well like
I've done MY bit for the environment :lol:
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How is it that if i take my 4x4 it is 5.41kg and the bus is 5.01kg
But if i take the car its 2.32kg and the bus is now 1.92kg How does the bus change :? :? :?
So if i walked the bus would not run.
I dont get it :oops: :oops:
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that is so random it cant be taken seriously :roll:
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There was an e-mail from a viewer of BBC Breakfast the other morning. The viewer was boasting about his carbon footprint...... His wife drove a Prius (!!!) and got 50mpg out of it....... err, is that all??? Most small cars do 40mpg anyway. And they don't have banks of batteries manufactured and to be disposed of in 5 years time. And the best bit...... he drove an electric car that produced zero carbon emissions :roll: Err, really???! Why isn't he the richest man in the world? He must have invented a perpetual motion machine.
It appears there *are* people gullible enough to believe this drivel.
Zero emissions? :shock: Where does this bloke think the electricity comes from? It's produced at coal or gas fired power stations :evil:
All he's doing is moving the emissions to somewhere else.
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My Nissan Micra 1.0 petrol did 46 to the gallon when I took it back, this one does 50 mpg with the airconn on and 56 with it off. No huge pile of batteries to dispose of like you said.
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Is the site Bol*ox?
YES
It recons if I run a 1.3 petrol Jimny on Biodiesel I will save on emissions.
What a crock
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His wife drove a Prius (!!!) and got 50mpg out of it....... err, is that all??? Most small cars do 40mpg anyway. And they don't have banks of batteries manufactured and to be disposed of in 5 years
Erm I work for Toyota, and I can promise you the prius doesnt have a five year battery life.
The warranty on the prius was extended from 3, to 5 years(unlike the rest of the toyota range), but the Battery on board has a life span which so far is proving to be indefinite.
It has no preset life span, and in the event of a failure, or a written off car etc, the battery is returned to Toyota Gb where its recycled.
It is a damn good idea, its not a small car, its a fully equipped large car capable of carrying five adults and luggage etc
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His wife drove a Prius (!!!) and got 50mpg out of it....... err, is that all??? Most small cars do 40mpg anyway. And they don't have banks of batteries manufactured and to be disposed of in 5 years
Erm I work for Toyota, and I can promise you the prius doesnt have a five year battery life.
The warranty on the prius was extended from 3, to 5 years(unlike the rest of the toyota range), but the Battery on board has a life span which so far is proving to be indefinite.
It has no preset life span, and in the event of a failure, or a written off car etc, the battery is returned to Toyota Gb where its recycled.
It is a damn good idea, its not a small car, its a fully equipped large car capable of carrying five adults and luggage etc
How does it perform off road :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Zero emissions? :shock: Where does this bloke think the electricity comes from? It's produced at coal or gas fired power stations :evil:
All he's doing is moving the emissions to somewhere else.
Exactly my point.
Erm I work for Toyota, and I can promise you the prius doesnt have a five year battery life.
The warranty on the prius was extended from 3, to 5 years(unlike the rest of the toyota range), but the Battery on board has a life span which so far is proving to be indefinite.
It has no preset life span, and in the event of a failure, or a written off car etc, the battery is returned to Toyota Gb where its recycled.
It is a damn good idea, its not a small car, its a fully equipped large car capable of carrying five adults and luggage etc
Fair enough......but.....
We all know that recycling can use more energy than manufacturing from scratch.
I would take issue over the 'large car' definition. It's shorter (just!) than a Focus. Hardly a large car.
It does seem that in the real world, people are not getting the claimed mpg figures. This, of course, is true of any car manufacturer. I'm not having a go at Toyota or the Prius specifically, just the blinkered view of this particular person.
The best is yet to come. The hybrid car will get better. Without people buying the Prius and similar, it wouldn't develop. As battery technology improves, so will the hybrid concept.
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How does it perform off road :lol: :lol: :lol:
donate me more than a fair few grand to buy one, and i'll gladly write a rwview! :roll:
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I would love to see the footprint on my Reo :twisted: :lol:
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How does it perform off road :lol: :lol: :lol:
Judging by this, not to well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwwfWPQYcX0
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Before I start, let me explain I am not a troll. I am a regular member of pistonheads and my profile can be found
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0&memberId=53935&f=69&t=357731.
I drive a 5.7L V8 Monaro, not a mud-club car I grant you, but fuelled with Petrol and 22mpg average. I am not, I repeat NOT a ecolentalist.
A colleague and I started a new business in November selling systems to local councils to help them manage traffic and congestion more effectively. In addition we offer services to the travelling public alerting you when car parks are full, accidents, pollution, bridge openings etc. All useful stuff to help reduce congestion.
One of our recent developments for a local authority customer was the carbon calculator. We also put our own branded version on the www.carboncalculator.info site. It has only been up and running 2 weeks now and I noticed this site had linked to it... so here I am! :D
I thought I would take the time to constructively respond to some earlier points. My comments are not meant to be inflammatory, just my opinion.
takes no account whatsoever of the fact that my V8 110 is 21 years old and therefore I have saved a huge amount of emissions by not changing the car for a new one every three years as a lot of people do I could leave it running 24/7 and it still wouldnt catch up - except I couldn't afford the petrol to do this !
I couldnt agree more. We intend for the site to have a "complete carbon cost" soon that will take in to account the life time cost of owning a vehicle.
They don't have an option for the Series IIA land Rover. So i guess i'm carbon nuetral then :lol:
They dont have the option for a defender 90 hard top either :(
All the data comes from http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk and only has cars from 2002 onwards.
I like the 'if you took public transport......' bit. Particularly the 'up to.....' part.
I assume that means it is likely to increase your carbon footprint in most circumstances because the bus or train only has three passengers on it :roll: And of course, there is the 7 mile taxi journey (each way, so 28 miles assuming I want to go home again!) to get me to the nearest railway station or bus route
It is true at the moment there is no accurate figure for the carbon emissions from public transport. We use a calculation of 1.2 tonnes of CO2 per 12,000 miles for public transport. This was using the governments published figures. Again, I am interested in finding out the TRUE cost of public transport and updating the site. I suspect, like you, it is somewhat more than the DFT would lead us all to believe.
How is it that if i take my 4x4 it is 5.41kg and the bus is 5.01kg
But if i take the car its 2.32kg and the bus is now 1.92kg How does the bus change :? :? :?
So if i walked the bus would not run.
I dont get it :oops: :oops:
The public transport option is the reduction, not the emission. I will make the text clearer.
It recons if I run a 1.3 petrol Jimny on Biodiesel I will save on emissions.
At the moment it isn't as sophisticated as that. Again, it is in the road map.
I don't want to start a flame war, but if any one wants to engage in a constructive way, feel free to retort! :)
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Nice to hear from you. Genuinely. And you are most welcome.
Your constructive response is appreciated. I, for one, don't see anything in your reply that should start a flame war. And it's good to hear you are trying your best to improve the site to make it more 'real life', for want of a better phrase.
Good luck. I suspect you'll need it to obtain some of the accurate figures you need :roll: