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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: barnhill4x4 on February 18, 2007, 19:06:04
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I know its all gone now but I am going to sweden!
Next Feb I plan on going to Sweden to watch the WRC. A freind of mine has gone twice now in his Imprezza RA and he used gravel rally tyres on that with no probs. I plan on taking the P38 but not going to do it on road tyres. I will probably buy or borrow (hint!) a set of 16" steels or alloys and fit them with some suitable rubber but what do you reccomend? I will use them only for about a week so only need remoulds but I would also like to keep them to fit to the RR if I decide to use it for the odd laning trip etc. I would like to go slightly taller to increase axle clearance but modding the body is out of the question. Removing the mudflaps is not a problem though! I dont want to go too high incase the EAS fails while I am there and the tyre rub on the inner wings and prevent it moving at all.
So, what are the reccomendations? Size and tread pattern.
I am thinking maybe Colway A/Ts would do the job but maybe I should look for a tyre that can be studded? I will be on the snow for a lot of the time and probably sleeping in the car for the 3 nights of the rally or find a nearby log cabin. Eitherway, I wont be near treated roads for a while.
BTW, if anyone would like to tag along they are welcome. The more the merrier, would prefer to go with some others, much easier if something goes wrong. I am an experienced rally marshall and Competitor and will likely be organising this for a few people anyhow
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I have colway M/T's on a couple of my vehicles and they have holes in them for studs. HTH :wink:
I have a feeling it might even be law that studded tyres are fitted for driving in snow in some scandinavian countries, could be worth checking :wink:
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I was thinking about M/ts but I heard that the A/T's are better in snow. I dont think it is a requirement to have studs but is certainly advisable!
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I know when i did arctic training with the military all the tyres were M/T's with studs.
Do A/T's have provision for studs :?: I believe studs can be fitted even if the tyre isn't manufactured with holes but it Just makes me think that if the M/T's come with holes already in then they must be the right thing for the job :?
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BFG A/T are amongst the best all-rounder in snow, probably better than an M/T in some situations.
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BFG A/T are amongst the best all-rounder in snow, probably better than an M/T in some situations.
I'll second that
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Well as the tread pattern is nearly the same on the Colway A/t's and I dont need them all the time, I think that is what I will go for, they wont last as long I know but I wont be using them a lot.
What about Sizes? Any thoughts?
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Not too wide for snow if it's on tarmac, you need to cut through, wide as anything on deep snow pack as you don't want to sink.
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http://www.nokiantyres.com/suv_wintertyres_en
I think you will find that the law requires winter tyres in Scandanavia. They are defn not M/TS
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I'm thinking of going on this trip too, so will also need to sort out suitable boots for the Disco. So what's the best way of going about it, going for a normal A/T with stud holes, then fitting studs once over there and removing upon return, or going for pre-studded tyres and swapping 'em over once in the snow? Or are you able to remove the studs from tyres like those Nokians to use them under normal conditions?
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Well as the tread pattern is nearly the same on the Colway A/t's and I dont need them all the time, I think that is what I will go for, they wont last as long I know but I wont be using them a lot.
What about Sizes? Any thoughts?
245/75 16's is the max you can go if you don't want it to rub too much on bump stops. It will slightly rub on full lock with these on.
33's (255/85's in this case) will fit though :wink: :wink:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/sgl322/RR%20Tyres/RRtyres033.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/sgl322/RR%20Tyres/IMG_1135.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/sgl322/RR%20Tyres/IMG_1131.jpg)
Cheers
Steve
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Well managed to find a few tyres that can be studded. Found Cooper Discovery M+S 225/70R16 tyres with stud holes for £75 per corner delivered.
Just need to find somewhere that stocks studs now.
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Or for pre-studded tyres, can get the Nokian Hakkapeliitta LT (http://www.nokiantyres.com/suv_product_en?product=610498&name=NOKIAN+HAKKAPELIITTA+LT#), in either 225/70/16 or 235/75/15 for about £79, plus £9 per pair delivery.
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I have a feeling it might even be law that studded tyres are fitted for driving in snow in some scandinavian countries, could be worth checking :wink:
Just looked into it, Norway and Sweden only REQUIRE the use of winter tyres by their own nationals.
So I think I'll save myself a few quid, stick with ATs, and invest in some chains.
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Studded tyres are the Dogs nuts on ice/snow.
I did a half stud on a set of colway MT's I was running, and they were great on ice and (little snow we had anyway).
The studs are damned hard to fit, they really need a special gun, but they can be fitted without, and very hard to buy. When you find some they are very expensive(like 80 quid expensive to do a full set on 4 tyres!!!!!!!!)
They (I believe) are illegal in the UK, but Didnt affect the handling/grip in any way on mine.
Get em studded, you will be laughing.