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Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2007, 04:43:57
Hi All

My 90's been stolen in the last few hours.

That's 2 in about 18 months.

Any news, let me know.

Cheers

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Porny on March 05, 2007, 07:26:51
Blinkin 'eck.....   :shock:  :shock:

Will keep a look out!!!

Ben, what's going on?? - really feel sorry for you!




Ian
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: sleeplessparadise on March 05, 2007, 07:47:38
Eyes will be peeled in West yorks for it Ben :(
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: AbyssDJ on March 05, 2007, 08:03:31
post the reg number etc. will keep an eye open
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2007, 08:17:29
Quote from: "Porny"
Blinkin 'eck.....   :shock:  :shock:

Will keep a look out!!!

Ben, what's going on?? - really feel sorry for you!




Ian


I know - it's ridiculous. I now live about 30 miles away from where the last one was stolen, so if they've come back for the replacement, then I'm impressed with their research, especially as the last one was stolen from a garage about a mile away from my house.

Number plate is / was M666MUD

I'll not be needing those wheels now Ian, and the remap's off the cards at the moment :roll:

Cheers

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: andyhubbard on March 05, 2007, 08:17:37
Hi Ben-sorryto hear that mate can you let us have some details ie:reg no and that,i'm Chesterfield all day today so will keep the eyes open.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2007, 08:42:33
Photos on the webshots link at the bottom of the page.

Very distinctive number plate, so it'll probably have been changed, but see above for details.

Cheers

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: mike142sl on March 05, 2007, 11:34:06
I'll keep a look out but it looks quite distinctive so will probably be hidden somewhere now.

You really must consider fitting a tracker to the next replacement. £299 fitted at Autotek on St Mary's Gate plus your choice of subscription - £120 pa or £325 for your duration of ownership. It might seem a lot but it proves invaluable for those who have gone through what you have.

More info at http://www.trackstar.co.uk/index.aspx
Title: Re: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5
Post by: Evilgoat on March 05, 2007, 12:01:19
Quote from: "Ben"
Hi All

My 90's been stolen in the last few hours.

That's 2 in about 18 months.

Any news, let me know.

Cheers

Ben


Just a thought, but the home alarm systems I install (Rokonet/Gardtek CPX) have wireless support in them. If you have a house alarm system I wonder if a wireless impact sensor on the car would work to trigger the house alarm. Would confuse the hell out of the [!Expletive Deleted!] :).

Hmmmm
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Priglet on March 05, 2007, 13:00:58
I'm gutted for you, having had one stolen I know all the hassle it causes. Hope this one turns up soon and undamaged.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 05, 2007, 13:13:14
Blimey Ben!

That's not good!!!

My commisersations, but will keep 'eyes peeled' around here for it.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Magnum335 on March 05, 2007, 16:53:41
Any security on her?
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: SteveG on March 05, 2007, 17:37:56
Sorry to hear that Ben, especially as you know all the hassles it causes too.

Quote from: "mike142sl"

You really must consider fitting a tracker to the next replacement. £299 fitted at Autotek on St Mary's Gate plus your choice of subscription - £120 pa or £325 for your duration of ownership. It might seem a lot but it proves invaluable for those who have gone through what you have.


This comes up everytime a Defender goes missing and it's simply bad advice. It would take anybody about 1 min to find any tracking device on a Defender and remove it. Especially systems like trackstar that need a celleluar aerial and GPS signal.

The money is better spent on a MeckLock fitted to brakes and clutch where the only viable option is to crane it and low loader it away. This very rarely happens.

Cheers

Steve
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Daz800 on March 05, 2007, 18:13:22
Sorry to hear that, but i know how you feel.
We just got our td5 back from the dealers with a complete new lock set because some low life broke into our house and took the spare car key (and had the cheak to return for the car).

Will keep a look out but if i was you i would start with a drive round to see if pikie is about.

Daz
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2007, 19:44:17
Quote from: "SteveG"
Sorry to hear that Ben, especially as you know all the hassles it causes too.

Quote from: "mike142sl"

You really must consider fitting a tracker to the next replacement. £299 fitted at Autotek on St Mary's Gate plus your choice of subscription - £120 pa or £325 for your duration of ownership. It might seem a lot but it proves invaluable for those who have gone through what you have.


This comes up everytime a Defender goes missing and it's simply bad advice. It would take anybody about 1 min to find any tracking device on a Defender and remove it. Especially systems like trackstar that need a celleluar aerial and GPS signal.

The money is better spent on a MeckLock fitted to brakes and clutch where the only viable option is to crane it and low loader it away. This very rarely happens.

Cheers

Steve


Yup - mine had the trackstar on (I can probably tell you that now that it's gone).

Had a tracker on the golf, and they rang me up when it was on the back of a AA lorry telling me it had been moved suspiciously. Now that's good service!

There's not many places they can put them on a defender where the gps antenae is actually accesible. The radio wave tracker's much better, although not necessarily on a defender!

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: mike142sl on March 05, 2007, 20:39:37
Thats the first person I've heard of to have lost a vehicle with one of those fitted. Is this just down to the design of the defender?, I know someone who got their Disco TD5 back a couple of hours after that was nicked using one of these.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Porny on March 05, 2007, 21:58:13
Quote from: "Ben"

I'll not be needing those wheels now Ian, and the remap's off the cards at the moment :roll:


Shame we didn't do it sooner... could have checked out your alarm too (well the LR part of it) - but in all honesty you'll probably find it was a 'professional' gang who took your 90" - so would know how to get around things!!  Did you find any screws or fittings on your drive??

Absolute Bar Stewards....

Might be worth a trip round Sodbury (next month I think) - see if you can spot anything that was yours  :wink:

As Steve G pointed out, mechanical locks are the way to go... I'm quite a fan of the 'full metal jacket' - more of visual deterent too.


Ian
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2007, 22:10:23
Quote from: "Porny"
Quote from: "Ben"

I'll not be needing those wheels now Ian, and the remap's off the cards at the moment :roll:


Shame we didn't do it sooner... could have checked out your alarm too (well the LR part of it) - but in all honesty you'll probably find it was a 'professional' gang who took your 90" - so would know how to get around things!!  Did you find any screws or fittings on your drive??

Absolute Bar Stewards....

Might be worth a trip round Sodbury (next month I think) - see if you can spot anything that was yours  :wink:

As Steve G pointed out, mechanical locks are the way to go... I'm quite a fan of the 'full metal jacket' - more of visual deterent too.


Ian


Didn't find anything on the road where it had been parked. Mind you I had a skip next to it which has now been collected, so anything they took off could have gone in there and is now long gone.

I think I'm away when it's old sod. Last time I went, there was not much chance of finding anything as it took so long to get parked up that all the good stuff had gone. I'm sure that there'll be a fair bit of warm kit at old sod - it's inevitable. Just like there is on eBay and (possibly) some of the other Land Rover forums.

I saw an FMJ at Donnington and thought they looked good. Was tempted, and should have given out to temptation, but thought that the security I had was enough for now.

I guess the lesson is - you can never have enough security if they're that interested in taking the vehicle away.

Typically, we've booked on a weekend away in Wales doing some laning in a few weeks (booked ages ago) so I'll have to see what sort of lift and oversize tyres I can get for the vRS. Can you get All Terrains for Skoda Octavias? Shame it's not the 4x4 :wink:

Cheers

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Magnum335 on March 05, 2007, 22:59:42
Price of security is cheaper than the cost of replacing your pride and joy.
Title: missing?
Post by: minty on March 06, 2007, 19:17:40
sorry to hear about your miss fortune. i know this ent much help but the chance is it was stolen to order! most landrovers taken are normaly sold before thay go missing, ie engine,wheels, etc etc and the rest sits and rots away in a small yard somewhere.   :cry:
have you had a look around small garage units within a 15 mile radius area to your self if you boarder another county i would start looking there first normaly old airfeild type industrail area's first
and as for trackers personal i wouldn't wast money on them as most need the car wheels to be moveing with normal electrics on and to be honest the electric's are normaly by-past with 4 foot of 6mm wire to get started then removed so the vehical is then tricked, then 2 miles down the road its onto a trailor and away? and thats before you have finnished you call to the tracking company. :cry:
Title: Re: missing?
Post by: Magnum335 on March 06, 2007, 20:03:41
Quote from: "minty"
sorry to hear about your miss fortune. i know this ent much help but the chance is it was stolen to order! most landrovers taken are normaly sold before thay go missing, ie engine,wheels, etc etc and the rest sits and rots away in a small yard somewhere.   :cry:
have you had a look around small garage units within a 15 mile radius area to your self if you boarder another county i would start looking there first normaly old airfeild type industrail area's first
and as for trackers personal i wouldn't wast money on them as most need the car wheels to be moveing with normal electrics on and to be honest the electric's are normaly by-past with 4 foot of 6mm wire to get started then removed so the vehical is then tricked, then 2 miles down the road its onto a trailor and away? and thats before you have finnished you call to the tracking company. :cry:


Are you sure?

Had a subaru nicked and they tracker led them to a shed where the car was parked up.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 08, 2007, 12:12:35
I've just had a phone call from the Police...

THEY'VE FOUND IT!!!!! :D  :D  :D  :D

Bit of damage where they broke in and disabled the various security devices, but otherwise it's not too bad, apparently.

Not sure when I get it back - they found it only a few hours after it went (although I only got the phone call 10 minutes ago!). It's in storage at the moment going through scenes of crime stuff, and then it'll go to the approved repairer.

Now I just need to re-order all the stuff I cancelled!

Cheers

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: AbyssDJ on March 08, 2007, 12:15:17
excellent nice to hear! :) did they employ chris tarrant to give you a ring? :?

"have we found your td5 90..............?






..............














...........find out after the break!"
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: mike142sl on March 08, 2007, 12:28:30
How did they find it?
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Magnum335 on March 08, 2007, 12:34:46
Excellent news!

Would be interestin to see how they disabled teh security devices. I would ask to see it before it goes to the repairer.... If you do, get some pics :D
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 08, 2007, 12:46:42
Quote from: "mike142sl"
How did they find it?


Not sure yet - it was found on someone's driveway, so it may have been dumped and reported by the owner of the house.

It wasn't found by the tracking compnay, as far as I'm aware. Not a shining endorsement for them!

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 08, 2007, 12:49:07
Quote from: "barnyfarmer"
Excellent news!

Would be interestin to see how they disabled teh security devices. I would ask to see it before it goes to the repairer.... If you do, get some pics :D


I've got an idea - the SOCO guy talked me through some of the wires that had been cut through.

The descriptions I have are enough for me to know that I need a different anti-theft set up...

Rather not say what they've found, as it might not be a good idea for anyone else that has similar systems fitted.

Full Metal Jacket will be on order later today along with some other stuff as well...

Cheers

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: mike142sl on March 08, 2007, 14:52:11
Quote from: "Ben"


It wasn't found by the tracking compnay, as far as I'm aware. Not a shining endorsement for them!

Ben
You should ask them why?, their advertising blurb suggests 99.9% success and return within 1hr. You should aso try for a refund. I'm particularly interested as I was about to get one fitted.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: 07DefenderSeb on March 08, 2007, 15:26:45
Quote from: "Ben"

Rather not say what they've found, as it might not be a good idea for anyone else that has similar systems fitted.


Can we PM you to find out? I'd like to know if there's a device i should definately avoid.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 08, 2007, 15:47:16
Quote from: "mike142sl"
Quote from: "Ben"


It wasn't found by the tracking compnay, as far as I'm aware. Not a shining endorsement for them!

Ben
You should ask them why?, their advertising blurb suggests 99.9% success and return within 1hr. You should aso try for a refund. I'm particularly interested as I was about to get one fitted.


I'm working on it :roll:

Quote from: "07DefenderSeb"
Quote from: "Ben"

Rather not say what they've found, as it might not be a good idea for anyone else that has similar systems fitted.


Can we PM you to find out? I'd like to know if there's a device i should definately avoid.


Hopefully they're going to be calling me back this afternoon to let me know what's going on.

If you're serious about fitting a tracker, speak to the various companies involved (Tracker, RAC Trackstar etc) and ask them what their recovery rate is like for your specific type of vehicle. It may be that they won't recommend the fitting of particular types to particular vehicles.

I don't want to get into any debates on the benefits of one tracker over another. They all have their good and bad points. For example, the radio based "Tracker" is limited to areas where there is a radio reciever suitable (the tracker device fitted in some police cars), whereas a GPS unit requires line of sight to a satellite. Combination units, of course, get around this.

If I fit another one, it'll be a Tracker Monitor. I had a Golf GT TDi in a previous life which had one on, and was very impressed - they rang me to tell me it was being moved without the keys inthe ignition when it had broken down, and was being transported on the back of a car transporter! I was in the cab of the transporter at the time!

We think we know why the particular unit I had didn't work - it looks like they located it and disabled it. We only know this because the vehicle was recovered. Unfortunately, the disabling was somewhat easier than it would be on any other installation (even in another defender, potentially).

Don't know what the outcome will be yet. It wouldn't stop me fitting this type of unit to another vehicle (for instance, my Octavia) due to the way it would be installed in another vehicle.

Cheers

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: 07DefenderSeb on March 08, 2007, 15:54:33
Oh, I see. What a pain in the ar5e for you. I hope you're up and running again soon.

As you say about the FMJ - perhaps physical prevention of driving the car might be the best solution, but such a pain to do and undo.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Eeyore on March 08, 2007, 15:59:14
Darned glad you got that back!  :D

I'll be making this sticky a regular post now, if that's ok.

Seriously dude, that has cheered me up, no end.  8)

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: denviks on March 08, 2007, 16:23:00
:D  :D  :D  :D


and a few more for good measure

 :D  :D  :D  :D

so glad you got her back. there are so many times you see them go missing but never any sayin this....

i am really happy for ya  8)  8)  8)

lets hope you get on the road again very soon  :wink:
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Thrasher on March 08, 2007, 17:42:40
Ben,

I can recommend NavTrak ADR ..... The service is excellent, sometimes I expect to see them at the end of the night ready to tuck me in!
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Magnum335 on March 08, 2007, 17:46:44
Quote from: "07DefenderSeb"
Oh, I see. What a pain in the ar5e for you. I hope you're up and running again soon.

As you say about the FMJ - perhaps physical prevention of driving the car might be the best solution, but such a pain to do and undo.


Such a pain yes, but surely getting your motor nicked is an even bigger pain!

Go the whole hog and put a discloc on as well.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: att on March 08, 2007, 17:47:44
Nice one...Good to see a positive result :D
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: barnhill4x4 on March 08, 2007, 18:32:21
Good to see that they found it, great news, I hope there is not too much wrong with the car but take it to a garage you trust or yourself and give it a really good inspection. I had a sierra xr4x4 that got nicked and the transfer box was knackered, insurance co tried telling me it was already broke before it was nicked. after a lot of investigation it turned out the recovery co the police used only had spec lifts on thier trucks and they towed the car with the front wheels strapped on and the back ones on the ground, not good for an all wheel drive car!

  ANyway, onto the subject of trackers. Not as accurate as a tracker but a lot cheaper and expandable.
  An old mobile phone, hands free kit and some imagination. You can track its location using a site like this one http://www.traceamobile.co.uk/, it will have its own built in battery back up and as long as its a new sim that no-one knows the number of so you dont get unexpected calls you can set the hands free kit to immobilize the car by phoning it!!! Just wire up the radio mute wire to a relay and it can cut ignition, fuel pump etc. You could even tell the thieving scum what you think of them from the comfort of your own home or leave the phone to auto answer and leave it on silent and you can listen it to whats going on in the car!
   I should patent this idea!
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 08, 2007, 19:51:41
Ben
That's great news!!!

Sadly the other side of the coin is that they know where it lives :cry:
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: SteveG on March 08, 2007, 20:59:35
great news :)  :)
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: birdy on March 08, 2007, 22:37:47
GLAD YOU GOT IT BACK

PEOPLE THAT GO AROUND NICKING PEOPLES CARS
WHEN CAUGHT SHOULD BE GIVEN THE HOSE PIPE AND BARDED WIRE
TREAMENT!!!!!
THATS WHERE YOU GET A SHORT LENTH OF GARDEN HOSE/BARBED WIRE. [RAZOR WIRE HAS BEST RESULTS]
SLIDE THE WIRE INTO THE HOSE
THEN SLIDE BOTH INTO A CERTAIN ORIFICE
THEN REMOVE THE HOSE LEAVING THE WIRE IN PLACE.
THEY WILL NOT BE NICKING CARS AS YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN TO DRIVE!!!!!  :wink:
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Range Rover Blues on March 08, 2007, 23:03:44
Is the Full Metal Jacket the orange thing over the pedals?

If so I've got four, no not for sale but I can recomend them, also uselful for clouting thieveing scrotes if you catch them in the act.

Easy to fit and remove but pretty secure, even if you could pick the lock you can hardly get to it when it's fitted as it's to the left of the clutch pedal.

I also have a Disclock on each car, my driveway is gravel and if a mouse farts in my yard the dogs know about it.

I'm also sinking posts into the end of the drive.
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: hairyasswelder on March 08, 2007, 23:32:27
Quote from: "birdy"
GLAD YOU GOT IT BACK

PEOPLE THAT GO AROUND NICKING PEOPLES CARS
WHEN CAUGHT SHOULD BE GIVEN THE HOSE PIPE AND BARDED WIRE
TREAMENT!!!!!
THATS WHERE YOU GET A SHORT LENTH OF GARDEN HOSE/BARBED WIRE. [RAZOR WIRE HAS BEST RESULTS]
SLIDE THE WIRE INTO THE HOSE
THEN SLIDE BOTH INTO A CERTAIN ORIFICE
THEN REMOVE THE HOSE LEAVING THE WIRE IN PLACE.
THEY WILL NOT BE NICKING CARS AS YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN TO DRIVE!!!!!  :wink:


You need to see a shrink  :shock: Either that or stop reading fetish monthly  :wink:  :wink:
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2007, 07:29:30
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
Is the Full Metal Jacket the orange thing over the pedals?

Hi RRB

That sounds like the one. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get yours from? I've only found one place that does them, and it's not as local as I'd hoped!

Cheers

Ben
Title: STOLEN. LAND ROVER TD5 ***FOUND!***
Post by: Porny on March 09, 2007, 07:56:05
Quote from: "Ben"
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
Is the Full Metal Jacket the orange thing over the pedals?

Hi RRB

That sounds like the one. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get yours from? I've only found one place that does them, and it's not as local as I'd hoped!

Cheers

Ben


I'm sure Kenson 4x4 sell them....
Or buy from the people who make them -
http://www.rs-laser-cutting.co.uk/fullmetaljacket.htm

I could get one for you and post it up if needed - is only round the corner from my misses' flat.


Ian
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