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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: offroading.net on March 16, 2007, 18:58:40
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Uncles Jeep has failed on a badly worn UJ in the front axle, tester said "it was dangerous to drive it is so worn".
Just taken a look and it is fine, Jeep has done 66k miles, and has no visable wear on the UJ, zero play and no noise on full lock (will have a good look tomorrow in daylight). Said garage has a bit of a reputation shall we say, He has always been honest with me on the MOT's but this one isn't right.
So what do i do, jeep needs MOT before monday. Do I appeal or just go elsewhere and get another test done then appeal afterwards??
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Uncles Jeep has failed on a badly worn UJ in the front axle, tester said "it was dangerous to drive it is so worn".
Just taken a look and it is fine, Jeep has done 66k miles, and has no visable wear on the UJ, zero play and no noise on full lock (will have a good look tomorrow in daylight). Said garage has a bit of a reputation shall we say, He has always been honest with me on the MOT's but this one isn't right.
So what do i do, jeep needs MOT before monday. Do I appeal or just go elsewhere and get another test done then appeal afterwards??
Can you see the uj or is it incased inside the front axle casing
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are you sure you are looking at the correct joint?
get him to show you the unsafe play.
then if hes takin the.... get a big bar and swing it about a lot.
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Does he not mean the prop shaft UJ, rather than the CV joint?
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I have checked the UJ he saaid to my uncle it was, thing is they talked him into them fixing it for him next week and kept the fail sheet. I am off there tomorrow to get the sheet and have words.
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Its a dana axle, exposed UJs in the front axle, very easy to get at.
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Theres a vosa web site you can put in the reg number and it will pull up the fail sheet
http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECSID-Internet-Status-Request.jsp
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interestinly I have been looking at that, the fail isnt listed, just last years mot!
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bit dodgy that. i keep a crowbar in our landy for a reason! looks like you need one too! :D
if a UJ was worn bad enough to be dangerous you'd know about it! our prop UJ's screamed like a banshee when they were getting a bit wobbly but far from dangerous
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web site working now:
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Offside front constant velocity joint is excessively worn (2.5.C.1b)
No Advisory Notice issued
I am off there tomorrow to get them to show me the problem and give me a VT17, hope it puts the wind up them and it gets sorted.
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The problem with MOT's is that they only represent one persons opinion at a given time! and we are all human! he same tester could pass something he failed the very next day! I vote for the Spanish system, it takes about 3 hours and is done every two years...... its also better IMHO to take the car where the "specialise" in other stuff.... would a Mini specialist really want to "create" work on a Jeep or vice versa!
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they only represent one persons opinion
exactly the problem... because most of the time, they employ monkeys!
last time we came from an mot, our wheels started rubbing on full lock. wierd eh? so i went back and politely said "can you explain this please?" (in a nicer phrase obviously)
"oh we havent done it mate... we dont alter anything at all, its not us.. cant be us."
just said to him "i didnt say it was... i asked if you could explain it!" paranoia? yeah i reckon so. gimps!
edit - by the way, if its a CV joint thats apparently gone, it will click on full lock when cornering at lowish speeds
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Either talk to the tester and get him to explain or show you the problem or take it else where and spend another £50,appeals are a waste of time and will dragg on into eternity.
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I have to say MOT testers aren't monkeys. It's very difficult to get qualified and they have to keep being assesed in order to keep the card, as it is now.
My mate is a tester, in fact he works as quality control for a local testing station, the ministry like to have one person in charge so to speak.
Anyway, he does most of my tests, not because I expect him to pass stuff but becasue I expect him to make sure my car is safe.
Plus he always greases my brake pipes.
But either station I use will always show me what the problem is.
Unfortuanatley I have to say I never let either my wife or sister take a car into a garage if I can avoid it, it shouldn't be that way though should it :(
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I have to say MOT testers aren't monkeys. It's very difficult to get qualified and they have to keep being assesed in order to keep the card, as it is now.
My mate is a tester, in fact he works as quality control for a local testing station, the ministry like to have one person in charge so to speak.
Anyway, he does most of my tests, not because I expect him to pass stuff but becasue I expect him to make sure my car is safe.
Plus he always greases my brake pipes.
But either station I use will always show me what the problem is.
Unfortuanatley I have to say I never let either my wife or sister take a car into a garage if I can avoid it, it shouldn't be that way though should it :(
the local lot around here are! :? yeah we'll fail it for this crater in the chassis, let you weld it... bring it back then fail it on this one that we kind of forgot to mention..... fetch it back another time.... ah its ok now, we'll pass it with a fog light out and a tyre thats low on tread.
ps. i make a point of saying listen sunshine you ARE NOT fixing the things it may or may not fail on... so dont get any ideas!
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About 4 years ago my Disco failed on brake pads, I got new pads and fitted them but the old ones were nearly the same thickness as the new, so after the tester passed the motor, I asked him why this would be..... his answer was "We have to fail them on something". :shock:
I go elsewhere now.
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About 4 years ago my Disco failed on brake pads, I got new pads and fitted them but the old ones were nearly the same thickness as the new, so after the tester passed the motor, I asked him why this would be..... his answer was "We have to fail them on something". :shock:
I go elsewhere now.
Load of non-sense you don,t have to fail them. If they pass they pass if they fail they fail. I,m a mot tester and i try to be has fair has possible cause i would not want to get ripped off.
But i now what you mean i work at a dealer and the amount off other,s that fail excessive ITS CALLED A BONUS SCHEME
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I got told by an MOT'er that prop UJ's weren't tested, mine passed with a really bad UJ the other week.