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Title: The budget
Post by: martha focker on March 21, 2007, 13:59:14
What does everyone think :?:

obviously the car tax is diabolicle :twisted:
Title: The budget
Post by: denviks on March 21, 2007, 13:59:57
i managed to miss the bit about vehicle tax.... so who are they taxing, how much ect?????
Title: The budget
Post by: martha focker on March 21, 2007, 14:07:05
ITV news say that gas guzlers not just 4x4's will be taxed 300-400 pounds, economical cars will have there tax reduced.
Title: The budget
Post by: bigant on March 21, 2007, 14:15:00
anyone got a link to thats happening with the tax? are tax exempt landys still tax exempt ect ?
Title: The budget
Post by: Thrasher on March 21, 2007, 14:15:05
Oh wow .... need to check, but is that NEW Band G cars?

hahahahaha I am band F :-) .. my mate who has the SAME spec vehicle had his registered after 23rd March is band G ... and has to pay £300.

This is A FARCE. How can two identical vehicles be rated differently depending on their registration date???????
Title: The budget
Post by: edy on March 21, 2007, 14:21:00
on lruf says how it has gone up from £210 to £300 and fuel tax to rise 2p
Title: The budget
Post by: dazzawhipple on March 21, 2007, 14:25:31
Quote from: "Thrasher"
Oh wow .... need to check, but is that NEW Band G cars?

hahahahaha I am band F :-) .. my mate who has the SAME spec vehicle had his registered after 23rd March is band G ... and has to pay £300.

This is A FARCE. How can two identical vehicles be rated differently depending on their registration date???????


that the way I have read it, it will not affect older 4x4 earth destroying vehicles (on [!Expletive Deleted!] sounding like a greenie!!!!!)

the new rates are on the dvla site
Title: The budget
Post by: martha focker on March 21, 2007, 14:26:43
Quote from: "bigant"
anyone got a link to thats happening with the tax? are tax exempt landys still tax exempt ect ?


The document is on www.bbc.co.uk just follow the links for the budget :D
Title: The budget
Post by: C C on March 21, 2007, 14:32:38
Band A Petrol and Diesel. New rate £00 Change 0

Band B Petrol and Diesel. New rate £35 Change - £15(d) – £5(p)

Band C Petrol and Diesel. New rate £115 Change + £5(d) + £10(P)

Band D Petrol and Diesel. New rate £140 Change + £5(d) + £15(p)

Band E Petrol and Diesel. New rate £165 Change + £5(d) + £15(p)

Band F Petrol and Diesel. New rate £205 Change +£10(d) + £15(p)

Band G Petrol and Diesel. New rate £300 Change +£85(d) + £90(p)

Pre March 2001:

Up to 1549cc £115 Change + £5
Over 1549cc £180 Change + £5
Title: The budget
Post by: karlo on March 21, 2007, 14:45:52
Excellent then if they are the new rates my disco will have gone up a fiver to £180  :D
Title: The budget
Post by: denviks on March 21, 2007, 14:47:41
they will have us in the end though...... eventully we will be buying the 10 year old disco's ect.,....with the 400 tax hike......but there again i should think it will be in the 1000's by then  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
Title: The budget
Post by: martha focker on March 21, 2007, 15:01:32
so what will it be for a 3.9v8 disco on lpg
Title: The budget
Post by: mike142sl on March 21, 2007, 15:10:46
Quote from: "martha focker"
so what will it be for a 3.9v8 disco on lpg
LPG doesn't matter, it still has petrol so it will fall into Band F or G.
Title: The budget
Post by: martha focker on March 21, 2007, 15:17:40
what do the bands mean as in what will the disco be in and why :?:
Title: The budget
Post by: Llanigraham on March 21, 2007, 15:28:34
If pre 2001, plus £5 a year,
if post 2001, dependant on the tax band it is in.
Title: The budget
Post by: Llanigraham on March 21, 2007, 15:30:31
Useful link at:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
Title: The budget
Post by: andycwb on March 21, 2007, 15:30:50
As I read band G is only vehicles registered after 2006.

The real hit of these isn't going to come in for 5-10 years when today's spanking new Discovery 3 is worth nothing because people don't want to pay the duty.
Title: The budget
Post by: missroadrage on March 21, 2007, 15:44:50
Well I'm happy mine's gone up by a fiver - not too bad only pennies a day  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: The budget
Post by: sleeplessparadise on March 21, 2007, 15:54:47
Don't think it affects me cos mine is light goods vehicle  :D Johnty was a bit upset last year when I got my tax cheaper than he did for the disco with a much newer motor :lol:
Title: The budget
Post by: discomummy on March 21, 2007, 16:07:45
Hi

having just phoned the poor guys at DVLA - my1999 4 litre V8 will go up by £5 next tax time

watched some bloke on skynews being interviewed by the blonde bimbo about the tax on vehicles - he made some very good points and all she kept going on about was gas guzzling 4wds - he let her know that they were not the worst on the road for emissions - she obviously did not get his point

regards

ela
Title: The budget
Post by: Oz on March 21, 2007, 16:52:24
Hay guys im a bit confuzeled how much is my 1990 3.5 v8 disco gone cost?
Title: The budget
Post by: martha focker on March 21, 2007, 16:55:35
don't start its so confusing lol, i still don't know what it is for our 3.9v8 disco :roll:
Title: The budget
Post by: Oz on March 21, 2007, 16:56:13
lol some one must no? all the prices i can see say on or after 2001
Title: The budget
Post by: missroadrage on March 21, 2007, 17:20:32
Quote from: "Oz"
lol some one must no? all the prices i can see say on or after 2001


look at the bottom of the list it says engine sizes & prices for older cars
Title: The budget
Post by: Oz on March 21, 2007, 17:25:49
ok i cant see it where am i ment to be looking
Title: The budget
Post by: Lincs niva on March 21, 2007, 17:27:50
Here you go OZ

Pre March 2001:

Up to 1549cc £115 Change + £5
Over 1549cc £180 Change + £5

Cheers Gav
Title: The budget
Post by: missroadrage on March 21, 2007, 17:28:14
Quote from: "C C"


Pre March 2001:

Up to 1549cc £115 Change + £5
Over 1549cc £180 Change + £5



HERE !!!!!
Title: The budget
Post by: Oz on March 21, 2007, 17:29:42
ok ok cheers :)
Title: The budget
Post by: Jimbo on March 21, 2007, 17:49:29
How do you know which Band your vehicle is in ??

The V5 for my Disco has a CO2 value of 284g/km - so I guess that has to be band F, but the V5 for the 110 has no CO2 figure (it's currently taxed as a light goods vehicle)
Title: The budget
Post by: missroadrage on March 21, 2007, 17:53:18
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

this gives you a full list of all co2 bands & at the bottom has the light goods vehicles
Title: The budget
Post by: Jimbo on March 21, 2007, 17:59:19
Quote from: "missroadrage"
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

this gives you a full list of all co2 bands & at the bottom has the light goods vehicles


I'd been looking at that page, when I wrote my post - dunno what was going through my brain  :oops: ..........mud probably  :roll:

Some guys at work were slating the Disco yesterday, saying that the budget would hit 4x4's etc, I pointed out that them who drive 2.5 diesel and 2.4 petrol Audis we're also 'gas guzzlers'.........but having seen the Bands, I guess they might not be - anyone know of a website where you can look up the Band of any vehicle ?
Title: The budget
Post by: Jimbo on March 21, 2007, 18:06:22
Just found this place:

http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/index.asp

only any good for new motors, but might give an indication.

What I'd really like to find, is a website where you stick in your vehicle make/model/fuel etc - and it says what your CO2 should be.
Title: The budget
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on March 21, 2007, 18:11:00
It still doesn't change the fact that Gordon Brown is a red Commie Stalinist who doesn't like people who don't conform to his ethics.
Title: The budget
Post by: Oz on March 21, 2007, 18:24:29
here here   :P
Title: The budget
Post by: Bunnie on March 21, 2007, 18:35:37
well with the help of the VCA car fuel data site.... ive finally managed to work out ... i need to start saving for june now! by looks puggy will be £205 for the year which woudl be bout £100ish for the 6 months. and prob a similar amount when the zuki comes back on the road...
Title: The budget
Post by: barnhill4x4 on March 21, 2007, 18:38:43
Easy solution to all this, Drive on Trade plates!
   Cheaper than taxing the car!
Title: The budget
Post by: chris.hunt22 on March 21, 2007, 19:16:00
Don't talk to me about Trade Plates!!  Some theiving scum has half hinched mine out of a coach window, I left them in parked in our yard and now they have gone :roll:
Title: The budget
Post by: Snooky on March 21, 2007, 19:16:07
OK, so if I am right, then my 1988 2.5TD will only cost £180 per year

Or am I totally off the mark, if this is the case, then I am happy now  :lol:
Title: The budget
Post by: floyd fan on March 21, 2007, 19:25:06
Quote from: "Snooky"
OK, so if I am right, then my 1988 2.5TD will only cost £180 per year



Yup thats right.
Title: The budget
Post by: marjan on March 21, 2007, 19:37:48
Whats most annoying for me is that my TDCI Mondeo that is used everyday costs £135 whilst my little Vitara which I only use every other weekend costs £180.

I still reckon that it would be fairer to put it all on fuel so that those that use most fuel (either by size or mileage) and therefore wear out the road more would pay more tax.

And before you all have a go at me, my Vitara only does 22MPG with the M/T's on.
Title: The budget
Post by: edy on March 21, 2007, 20:52:38
ive got a landy series 3 perol on lpg, 1983 was built and registered on 1996 so what band is that and how much will it cost (sorry not very good at these things)
Title: The budget
Post by: L90OOK on March 21, 2007, 21:16:21
Why doesn't everyone just not pay road tax :?:
What are they going to do?...fine everyone who doesn't then pay the fine...would upset Mr Browns cash flow :shock:  :D
Might actually force the government to do something that isn't just window dressing there problems & trying to win public support :roll:
Title: The budget
Post by: Jimbo on March 21, 2007, 21:28:06
Quote from: "L90OOK"
Why doesn't everyone just not pay road tax :?:
What are they going to do?...fine everyone who doesn't then pay the fine...would upset Mr Browns cash flow :shock:  :D
Might actually force the government to do something that isn't just window dressing there problems & trying to win public support :roll:


Cos some little man in a black suit, and black shades will come round and clamp your car - seriously, there's an old Merc parked up just round the corner from here, the guy has another one on his drive, and it looks like he was using bits from one to repair the one on the drive. The one on the road has a bright yellow wheel clamp on the off-side front wheel, and a huge yellow and black 'Untaxed Vehicle' sticker on the front screen. Looks like Herts CC are out to get non-payers !!!!!
Title: The budget
Post by: missroadrage on March 21, 2007, 21:28:18
Quote from: "edy"
ive got a landy series 3 perol on lpg, 1983 was built and registered on 1996 so what band is that and how much will it cost (sorry not very good at these things)



assuming it is  higher than a 1549cc engine it will be £180 for 12 months
Title: The budget
Post by: edy on March 21, 2007, 22:24:13
yep it is 2238cc

thanks for the reply
Title: The budget
Post by: shaun and co on March 21, 2007, 22:38:36
simple way to do it is just tip the odd barrel of red into your tank till you think your paying about the right amount of tax!!!
Title: The budget
Post by: spyke_boi on March 21, 2007, 22:50:48
My emissions are 248g/km.

But as i read it, i am band F as my Landy was registered after 1st March 2001 and before 23rd march 2007. Do i read right or am i band G??
Title: The budget
Post by: Elmo on March 22, 2007, 00:23:42
I just worked the wifes 03 Freelander TD4 to £205 so I think you are - or we are both wrong :) Trusty old Elmo gets a £ one hundred and eighty which is kinda bizarre given that (a) its 2.5L (ish) and (b) its an older engine (200 TDI) and therefore I would imagine less "green".

Can't wait to tell her in the morning though :) :) :) :)
Title: The budget
Post by: spyke_boi on March 22, 2007, 00:43:27
*Prays to the Devil Ducks that MoonBuggy is Band F*
Title: The budget
Post by: DaveS on March 22, 2007, 09:47:03
248 CO2  is band G but the new rates only apply to vehicles registered after 23 March 06 (I think that's when the band came in)

Band F (186-225 CO2) is a £15 increase on petrol and £10 on diesels and alternative fuel.
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