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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: fish on April 02, 2007, 19:29:20
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After seeing some impressive winching skills removing a fallen tree whilst out laning last weekend. I have decided I need a winch, winching has got to be better than having to get the waffle boards out caking them with prime Essex clay and trying to clean them up after de-bogging myself!
I have an RDS front bumper I am led to believe is ‘winch ready’ so guys what should I go for, bearing in mind I wont be winching myself down any cliffs, just need something to pull myself out of the occasional bog?
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Anything with a 9 tonne plus pulling capacity. We use a Superwinch 9.5 tonne winch for our recovery at TV4x4 and it occasionally needs a snatch block buts it pulls most vehicles quite happily.
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Anything with a 9 tonne plus pulling capacity. We use a Superwinch 9.5 tonne winch for our recovery at TV4x4 and it occasionally needs a snatch block buts it pulls most vehicles quite happily.
I think you may have got your kilos mixed up with your pounds 9tonnes = 20,000lb Approx thats a big winch far too big for the front of a 4x4. winches are rated in pounds so as a rule of thumb. a winch pulls half the number in its name so for instance an ep9000 actually pulls 4.tonnes and a ep12000 pulls 5.5tonnes. Approx. A superwinch EPI16.5 pulls 16500lbs or 7.5tonnes
1 tonne = 1000,kg = 2200lbs
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Anything with a 9 tonne plus pulling capacity. We use a Superwinch 9.5 tonne winch for our recovery at TV4x4 and it occasionally needs a snatch block buts it pulls most vehicles quite happily.
I think you may have got your kilos mixed up with your pounds 9tonnes = 20,000lb Approx thats a big winch far too big for the front of a 4x4. winches are rated in pounds so as a rule of thumb. a winch pulls half the number in its name so for instance an ep9000 actually pulls 4.5tonnes and a ep12000 pulls 6tonnes. Approx.
1 tonne = 1000,kg = 2200lbs
So what's the difference between a "Ton" and a "Tonne"...? :?
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One tonne = 2200lbs
One ton = 2240lbs
Difference. 40lbs
Pete
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Apologies,
9,500lb winch is what we use.
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One tonne = 2200lbs
One ton = 2240lbs
Difference. 40lbs
Pete
Don't you just LOVE the imperial system...?! :shock:
Is one a metric ton/tonne then...?
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One tonne = 2200lbs
One ton = 2240lbs
Difference. 40lbs
Pete
Don't you just LOVE the imperial system...?! :shock:
Is one a metric ton/tonne then...?
yes, a tonne is a metric (1,000 kgs).
2.2lbs to the kilo if you want to do the maths. :lol:
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One tonne = 2200lbs
One ton = 2240lbs
Difference. 40lbs
Pete
Don't you just LOVE the imperial system...?! :shock:
Is one a metric ton/tonne then...?
yes, a tonne is a metric (1,000 kgs).
2.2lbs to the kilo if you want to do the maths. :lol:
Maths...?! :shock: God no!
Passed my O level and left it behind! :lol:
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OK I think I know what the winching capacity needs to be, but what makes are the most reliable. I have herd WARN winches are good, but what about Britpart?
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One tonne = 2200lbs
One ton = 2240lbs
Not if it's a short ton... :x damned Americans again
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OK I think I know what the winching capacity needs to be, but what makes are the most reliable. I have herd WARN winches are good, but what about Britpart?
have a warn on mine & Im about to fit another wouldnt use anything else,(well maybe a superwinch)
(puts asbestos suit on & awaits the flaming) :roll:
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I have a Superwinch epi 9 on the Disco and it has allways done what it says on the tin.
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Reliabily is the name of game . . . . . . I use mine for all sorts of outdoor stuff and it's not let me down so far . . . . can feel a bit slow at times but it does the job . . . . . . there again, I'm not doing 'Challenge' events . . . . . . :wink:
EP9000i
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ive got a champion 10000 lb winch mine and its helped me out a couple of times... cheaper than warn etc at winchsolutions.com
but i suppose as with everythin you pay for what you get... well see how mine stands the test of time
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I've heard the David Bowyer winches are ace, but you pay for the quality.
I've also heard a rep from one of the OEM suppliers saying he wouldn't put one of his own winches on his own truck.
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What of the Mile Marker hydraulic winch? They've got an adapter kit to fit it on a Discovery.
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Hi Ian, I have a Champion 9500lb on my offroader, It has got me out of trouble on many occasions...It really is down to your budget, if you can afford it I would go for a Warn...then a Superwinch...But if money is an issue I would go for the Champion or maybe Britpart...I chose the Champion purely on the basis of cost, and the fact it was only going on my offroader which I use twice a month so it is not going to be the end of the world if I cant get out as there are plenty of bods over Burres to help...HAving said that it has always got me/other people out of trouble.
If you go for a Champion, go for a 10,000lb job or maybe a little bigger so you know you are well sorted.
Regards, Terry
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One of the biggest problems i've heard of with cheap winches is the quality of the assembly, with some people recomending that the first thing to do with cheap winches is to strip and rebuild them with suitable sealent so the water doesn't get in the first time you go near a puddle.
A friend runs a pair of T-max winches (pay and play + lanning) with no reliability issues.
It doesn't matter how much your winch costs as operator abuse and maintenace are both critical to winch reliability. Which was why the T-max winches were still working at the end off the weekend and some of the Warns wern't.
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Hi Terry, I hadn’t considered Champion, will now have a look. I wonder if there is any definitive test data for all the various makes of winches? It would appear that Warn have a good reputation, but it would be good to see how other winch brands compare. Will have to have a search around the net and see what turns up.
What’s Bures like at the moment?
Ian
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hi Chris, Interestng makes sense that a bit of TLC make the difference. Water proofing is a concern as I like my fords. Is it a relativly easy task to do the silicon sealing job?
Ian
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Hi IAn, THe champion I have has a water proof solenoid pack as standard, and comes with a gaurantee if water gets in there...You will be shocked at how many winches DO NOT cover off road use, even though the people who make them know this is what they will be used for..!...Bures is a bit hard going at the moment buddy, the ground has really dried out now, It was great fun in Dec/Jan lots of mud and water...I gave the Disco a right grilling over there, and she love it....I am more than likely going to be selling it soon, With much sadness as a house purchse is on the cards this year at some stage, along with work I just do not get the time to use it now days, the last time I used it was early Feb..
Hows the lanning going mate.
Terry
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I have the champion 10,000lb winch and I have submerged is several times and recently used it for four straight line pulls after submersion (see the photo below) and it worked every time without a glitch except the crimped eyelet on the end of the cable let go. I think this was down to once the vehicle came unstuck the winch cable unspooled on the drum and fatigued the crimp. I have now changed the wire rope for synthetic.
I have been happy with the champion product and there service - My mates Warn winch failed trying the same pulls!
The only criticism of the winch is it's speed, but I'm not using it for challenges so it's something I can live with at the price they come out at.