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Title: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: muddydisco on April 09, 2007, 14:04:41
what's amp welders are people runing off the normal 3 pin plug.
 The shop said i can't run a 205 amp off a normal plug.
Any help will be great full

muddydisco
Title: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: Range Rover Blues on April 09, 2007, 14:27:29
What are you welding?

It's not always an advantage to buy the biggest welder in the shop, you need one that covers the range of thicknesses you want to weld and it's often helpful if it will go a little lower, for when you burn through.
Title: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: hairyasswelder on April 09, 2007, 14:33:27
He could well be right.  High amp migs need a 16 amp feed and a 3 pin is 13 amp. Especially if you live in a newish house as it will trip the consumer unit
I run a Cebora Panther which is a 'full size' 170 amp mig.
Never used it on full power as if I need to weld big stuff I take it to work  :D  

Steve
Title: Re: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: redhand on April 09, 2007, 14:50:00
Quote from: "muddydisco"
what's amp welders are people runing off the normal 3 pin plug.
 The shop said i can't run a 205 amp off a normal plug.
Any help will be great full

muddydisco


An 150amp welder will easily manage 6mm steel. unless you're welding RSJ's you'll never use it to its full capacity.
Title: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: Lincs niva on April 09, 2007, 15:23:21
Im using a 130 amp mig which has been great on all materials we have welded :D

Cheers Gav
Title: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: waveydavey on April 09, 2007, 18:53:03
It also depends on type; I have a 200 amp transformer unit which runs for a while and blows the plug fuse. An invertor unit would last longer but it is still too much for a 13 amp plug.
Title: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: Guardian. on April 09, 2007, 20:27:40
what are you welding?  all thats all that counts  is the duty cycle, not how much current your mains can handle. my 375 amper hardly gets used above 2nd seting out of about a dozen. thats down at summit like 100amps max i think.
a good 150 home welder jobbie will or should weld upto 6mm easily, only downside is they forever switch off on the thermal overload, that the only reason you might buy something well over what you need, then you can weld for longer, ours obviously never need to stop if running day and night. (as it is at the mo!)
Title: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: hairyasswelder on April 10, 2007, 20:50:04
Quote from: "Guardian."
what are you welding?  all thats all that counts  is the duty cycle, not how much current your mains can handle. my 375 amper hardly gets used above 2nd seting out of about a dozen. thats down at summit like 100amps max i think.
a good 150 home welder jobbie will or should weld upto 6mm easily, only downside is they forever switch off on the thermal overload, that the only reason you might buy something well over what you need, then you can weld for longer, ours obviously never need to stop if running day and night. (as it is at the mo!)


I used to use a 500a water cooled BOC machine at around 300a for a 12 hour shift  :roll: welding structural steel, after my 12 hours Tony would take his 12 hours  :shock: It got 1 service in 3 years  :roll:
Now I have a small Murex 253 that I use for general light fabrication out of 6 settings it rarely gets used on no.5 for channel or beam and 6mm op chequer  :D and NEVER cuts out and I service it myself

If you buy a 100a welder and turn it up full it will last only a few minutes
I used to use a Clarke 140 stick welder on site for small jobs and could trip the thermal overload after 1+1/2  2.5mm rods  :shock:  

To get 100a for a decent period you need a 150a with cooling fan. The bigger the welder the better the mid range performance

I would also look for a 'euro torch' if within the budget as these are cheaper and easier to replace liners etc, and buy a decent brand  :D

Steve
Title: LOOKING AT MIG WELDERS TODAY
Post by: tomarse on April 10, 2007, 23:19:58
Quote from: "hairyasswelder"
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To get 100a for a decent period you need a 150a with cooling fan. The bigger the welder the better the mid range performance

I would also look for a 'euro torch' if within the budget as these are cheaper and easier to replace liners etc, and buy a decent brand  :D

Steve


ive just bought a clarke one and im dead impressed. Wire feed is loads better than anything else ive used. tis 150A with a fan.

It is replacing a 100A one which used to hit the thermal cut out after about 10 mins of welding thick stuff (3mm box and some big 20mm diam bar) on its max setting.
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