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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Bush Tucker Man on April 09, 2007, 20:44:02
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Is there anyone who can help me with a pair of sticky STI levers?
I've just started riding one of my bikes again & the STI levers are annoying me.
The levers are 1998 model RX100 (road groupset) that were on my Raleigh Optima, before transfer onto the frameset they now grace.
(the Optima frameset is for sale :wink: )
The front one will allow upward changes, but does two things out of the ordinary;
1. As the movement is made, the entire lever sticks at a sideways angle.
2. It refuses to down-change onto the small chainring & has to be assisted by pulling on the cable as it runs along the down-tube before complying.
The rear one sticks on up-changes, until at least 3 movements are made (it only moves one gear at a time though, thankfully)
Down-shifts are no problem with it.
Is it a matter of simple lubrication, and possibly new (inner & outer) cables given that the bike had been standing untouched for almost 3 years?
Or is there a more in-depth problem with the levers??
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I haven't tried my Dyna-Tech to see if that exhibits the same problem (but that was used once about 18months ago & worked perfectly)
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go for a gearin system by sram thats what i use on my moutain bike n i have had no problems with them
sram trx are the best
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go for a gearin system by sram thats what i use on my moutain bike n i have had no problems with them
sram trx are the best
I used to use XT II (thumbshifters) on my Pace Research, & they were superb for the 'hammer' they got racing & getting mud & tree in them.
If I do ride 'cross' again next winter, I'm not too sure about STI levers, as even though a lot of riders use it, bar-end shifters are more reliable in bad conditions
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d u mean shimano xtII???
i know that the shimano deore xt are good
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d u mean shimano xtII???
i know that the shimano deore xt are good
Yes.
When I was racing, old timer talking now :roll:
(I gave up totally in about '96)
The hierachy was XTII, then Deore II
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shove an xtr set on there.. you know you want to (and also empty your bank at the same time)
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shove an xtr set on there.. you know you want to (and also empty your bank at the same time)
XTR is a MTB group-set, or it was the last time I looked :wink:
The levers are 1998 model RX100 (road groupset)
It's a set on a road-bike that's playing up :wink:
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try
www.chainreactioncycles.com
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while were on this subject what do you think would be the best mechanisms and shifters for a trials bike ??? oh yeah its a 24 speed with a fairly low ratio
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if it has been sat for a while I would spend a bit of money on new cables and spray a bit of lube (GT85 my favorite) in the shifters and on the front and rear mechs and ease them about abit by hand. You should then find that it all works nice and free again.
As for trials most of them use a short cage rear mech usually a road one as they are cheaper and regularly get broken, they also use a rear cassette of a road bike as well for the closer ratio gears. As for shifter you will need a 7 or 8 speed one as 9 speed is not compatible (different spacing between the shifts). If you mix the groupset between sram and shimano make sure you get the right compatiblity parts as they dont nesasarily work together.
hope this helps
Dom
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try
www.chainreactioncycles.com
Thanks Dyf, but there's a branch of Evans Cycles over at the 'Xscape' complex about 5miles away
http://www.evanscycles.com/
DFR
That's probably the initial best bet, as I've never taken one apart before & was hoping to avoid having to strip bar-tape away and remove the lever entirely.
It's probably just sticking & not being helped by the old grease that's partially solidified
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As for trials most of them use a short cage rear mech usually a road one as they are cheaper and regularly get broken, they also use a rear cassette of a road bike as well for the closer ratio gears
Most road clusters that I've used on my 'good bikes' have been fairly closely spaced.
I think that my Dyna-Tech carries a 8-speed 12-21 (along with 52/39 chainrings)
You can, or could a 12-19 block
I had one on an older bike, but they're hard bl**dy work unless it's billiard table smooth, and totally appallling in the hills
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cheers dfr
for gear cables i use 1s from halfods by clarks their teflon coated and are super smooth on shifting especially with a bit of grease on it . . . for brakes try shimano m systems cables their cheep but effective :)
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I do like those teflon cables, but the only trouble I found was when they wear a bit water can get under neath and rust inside. That is on a mtb though with lack of maintenance though so they will be no probs on a road bike as long as they are not to thick for the STI's as if i remember rightly they are only made to take a 0.8mm cable
Dom
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Curiously enough the rear lever worked perfectly during this afternoons ride.
The front still sticks in a fully depressed position, but changes back down onto the small-chain-ring at the first attempt :D
I must be getting a bit fitter, as I came back up the by-pass (a long drag) 2 gears higher than yesterday and at a slightly higher cadence :D :D
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1st new cables inner and outer.
I have been told different things over the years regarding spraying oil into the shifter mech on STI levers.
I have been using a silicon spray not GT 85 as its doesn't attract any bits.
I remember XT thumbies. Rich the real question is did you run them upside down. Also those were the days days racing with guys like Gary Ford and Tim Gould.
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1st new cables inner and outer.
I have been told different things over the years regarding spraying oil into the shifter mech on STI levers.
I have been using a silicon spray not GT 85 as its doesn't attract any bits.
I remember XT thumbies. Rich the real question is did you run them upside down. Also those were the days days racing with guys like Gary Ford and Tim Gould.
I only ever use GT85 as a penatrating oil to free things off such as sticky cables and shifters, then give them an oiling afterwards.
Gary Ford and Tim Gould they are some names I havent heard in a while.
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I I remember XT thumbies. Rich the real question is did you run them upside down. Also those were the days days racing with guys like Gary Ford and Tim Gould.
Gary Ford and Tim Gould they are some names I havent heard in a while.
I remember Tim Gould when he was only riding Cyclo-Cross for Peugeot. He's a nice guy, as is his dad (Harry)
I think he still lives in Wirksworth? (near Matlock)
His team-mates were David Baker (& later Fred Salmon)
In 1989 they went across to the States on early (753 & Campagnolo MTBs) & annihilated the Yanks at races like Mammoth Mountain!
Baker then went over to Raleigh, with Paul Hinton & Caroline Alexander
A few other riders of note from the period were;
Tim Davis (Alpinestars)
Deb Murrell (Dave Yates, then; OffRoad)
Steve Worland & my namesake (Pace Research)
Chris Young (another nice guy, I know him & his brother)
Sally Hibberd
Barrie Clark
Nick Craig
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Yep those where the days.
MY first MTB was a Raleigh Appalachian with a 531 frame and Shimano Deore groupset. My sister now uses that bike still going strong.
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Yep those where the days.
MY first MTB was a Raleigh Appalachian
Blimey, I remember that model!
My first was a Carrera from Halfords, that lasted roughly 3 months before I saw sense & bought a (1989) Marin Pine Mountain.
SWMBOs first MTB was a Marin Bear Valley (also a '89)
My mate Nick (who features in my 'Cycling' albums on my 'www') still has that, he rides it to work most days - with various changes over the years)
Ought to have added hat I knew Tim Gould (& his dad) due to competing at the same Cyclo-Cross events on occasions.
I also know (through mutual friends) Roger Hammond (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/1156664171047309372vYkCiS)
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dont know if this is turning into a what MTB link but
I started about 91 with a carrera which as above lasted about 3 months and then got myself a Marin Rocky Ridge which was a 93 model I think. Then the big money came out and I bought a custom built Manitou FS (which is still in my shed). I have had countless bikes since but in the shed at the moment is a GT Ruckus I drive and a Santa Cruz V10 (frame and forks rear wheel up for sale when I get around to it)
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i jus have a emmelle outlaw moutain bike that stayed in th shed for a year then i started messin and £200-£300 later i got th same frame jus modiyed resprayed and new gearin from scratch
triels bike is a work in progress
Santa Cruz V10 (frame and forks rear wheel up for sale when I get around to it)how much u thinking of ??
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as was thinking £600 for frame £150 for the forks (boxxer teams 2004 if i remember rightly) only got used in France last year. The frame quite scratched as I used to do a lot of racing but that is only cosmetic. The rear wheel will go with the frame as it has the floating disc brake as will the seat post and the headset. I will be open to offers though but that is the reserve I was going to ebay it for
cheers Dom
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hmmm i think i'll stick with mine for now
i'd rater have summat i can throw around n not worry about
thats why i like my messed with bike :D although i got a dodgy bearing on th center axle :(
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not a problem, its a down hill race bike and no good for anything other than hammering down hills!
do you mean the bearing on the bottom bracket, the axle in he middle which holds the cranks on. If so these days they are a generally a sealed unit which means take it out and get a replacement the right size and bin the old one. Prices start about £15, a good local shop should be able to sort you out
Dom
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thats the 1 . . . i got 1 for my current project bike and didnt know about 1 havein reversed thred . . . its only a ally frame so it went in and [!Expletive Deleted!] up th thred on the frame :cry: either way its in right now n its not coming out
oh any one have a rough guess on prices for disk brake pads . . . i inhereted a bike from work with em on
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A few other riders of note from the period were;
Tim Davis (Alpinestars)
Deb Murrell (Dave Yates, then; OffRoad)
Steve Worland & my namesake (Pace Research)
Chris Young (another nice guy, I know him & his brother)
Sally Hibberd
Barrie Clark
Nick Craig
Tim Davies works in one of my local leisure centre
Nick Craig was doing the mtb enduro I did on the weekend, rides for Scott now, very nice guy
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Tim Davies works in one of my local leisure centre
Nick Craig was doing the mtb enduro I did on the weekend, rides for Scott now, very nice guy
Tim worked in one before he was racing (well, sponsored anyway) as far a I recall?
On the Yankee front, a few others from when I was racing;
Missy Giove was always a real 'charactor', with the dead Pirahna around her neck (rode for Yeti)
Juliana Furtado (also Yeti)
John Tomac
Ned Overend & Sara Ballantyne (Specialised)
Susan DeMattei (Diamond Back?)
Rishi Grewal (GT)
Bob Roll
Greg Herbold (blonde hair, rode for Miata?)
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Greg Herbold works for Rockshox now in r&d (best forks you can buy)
John Tomac's bike firm have just got a new importer
Ned Overend still works for Specialized
Tomas Frishnet was long distance world champ last year (I think)
Tinker Juarez is 24 hour champ
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Greg Herbold works for Rockshox now in r&d (best forks you can buy)
Tomas Frishnet was long distance world champ last year (I think)
S'funny I thought those were the ones that my old acquaintances Adrian Carter & Steve Duncan-Smith(?) produced :wink:
I saw 'Frischy' twice in Leeds in November 1992.
He rode the Nations Cup, a 'warm up' event for the World Cyclo-Cross Championship that was also held here in Roundhay Park
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I rode in the 'Senior' event that was a supporting act for the Nations Cup. What an experience with that crowd!! :shock:
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thats the 1 . . . i got 1 for my current project bike and didnt know about 1 havein reversed thred . . . its only a ally frame so it went in and !Expletive Deleted! up th thred on the frame :cry: either way its in right now n its not coming out
oh any one have a rough guess on prices for disk brake pads . . . i inhereted a bike from work with em on
for pads find out what make they are Hope, Shimano, Hayes, Avid are probably the main ones around but it does depend on how much the bike was as to what might be on it, when you've found out have a look in your local bike shop if not try www.chainreactioncycles.com they have quite a few different types on there
cheers Dom
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Bush Tucker Man if you get a new bike before the 5th of August, you should traval up to Selkirk to do that round of the Merida MTB Marathon Series. By far the best round of the series. Me and SWMBO make the trip every year from mid wales its that much fun
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thanks dom
i ended up jus tryin to repair the pads and better leavers they work better than they did :)
project bike is almost finished its not the most expensive thing but its light and gearin works great :D all it needs is th peddles puttin on and cranks tightening and i'm off :D
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I was out earlier this morning.
I went via Castleford, Allerton-Bywater, Fairburn Ings, with the perceived intention of ending up at Squires Cafe at Sherburn (the bikers cafe that now resides in the -former- 'New Inn' pub)
After a very good start, feeling fit & strong, I'd crossed the roundabout on the old A1 at Fairburn & had the new (re-routed) A1 flyover in site.
Just as I was climbing very gently towards the bridge decking, the rear tyre went down.
It was flat before I'd even stopped!
"B *gger!!!!" :(bigangry):
As I didn't have a tube, pump or tyre-levers with me (silly me!)
So it was simply a case of setting off & walking home, it had taken me 30 minutes fairly hard riding to get that far, hence it was a fair walk back :roll:
But a thought wandered into my mind, I rang the mother-in-law (SWMBO away) & she came and picked me up - after I'd walked about 3miles pushing the bike.
So, tomorrows ride will see a tube & levers in my pocket :wink:
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Muddymesser, you'll have to post a pic when your done be interesting to see.
Sods law on the punctures at least you managed to get a lift, always happens when you dont carry spare.
Dom
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Sods law on the punctures at least you managed to get a lift, always happens when you dont carry spare.
Dom
Funnily enough, it's usually the reverse for me, if I've got a tube I puncture, if I haven't I don't :roll:
The Schwalbe 'Blizzard' (?) tyres I have fitted to that pair of wheels (green tread!?) are supposed to be puncture resistant :roll: :wink:
Having said that, looking at the amount of cuts in the tread, they've done a good job in the past
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Muddymesser, you'll have to post a pic when your done be interesting to see.
Sods law on the punctures at least you managed to get a lift, always happens when you dont carry spare.
Dom
will try n get some pics tomorrow . . . went out on it yesterday (handle bars came loose bout 5 mile from my girl friends n i was still ridin . . . worst part was that strech o road is the bit i was gona test it for jumpin ) rode it t wrk this mornin and got a puncture th reason mainly due to a 2.125 tube in a 2.3 tyre and goin past bushes n gettin half a tree stuck in the back tyre it jus got flat as i got into work . . . the bike is mostly second hand parts / cheep parts n a bent seat :) (landed too hard )
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my bikes are nevver finished :D
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I did the same (complete) ride again on Thursday morning & again on Friday morning (& in the late afternoon)
It's a lovely little route once you're past Fairburn, going through Lumby & South Milford on unclassified roads ('C' roads?)
A steady climb up the one hill in the area (by Steeton Hall Gate-house) & over to the single-track lane to Newthorpe.
I got the journey home down to 37minutes yesterday evening :D
(going is roughly 50minutes..... at the moment, until I get fitter & faster)
Plus, inbetween the 2 trips yesterday, I went into Wakefield & bought a pair of running shoes, as SWMBO wants me to go 'pounding the pavements' with her :roll:
They even put me on a treadmill & filmed my feet!!
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got the bike finished (sort of) 8 rear speed 34teeth on lowest gear :) ally frame magneseum adjustable forks aircraft grade alloy head set thingy
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sorry bout the size its a bit small
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bike is looking good, second hand parts are good nice and cheap, hate to think what I have spent on bikes over the last 10 years
here is a pic of mine not that you can see much of it but you get the idea
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cool . . . i dont do much offroad but thinkin of goin wit my dad wen he dus a green lane . . . as i live in blkpool i usually do stairs and ramps :) i'll try n get some pics next time i out near th hospital (its got good stairs and you dont hav t go far when u bail 8)
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I resurrected the Dyna-Tech this afternoon. It's been hung in the garage for just over 2years.
It needed a good scrub to clear all the dust, spiders-webs & general filth off it.
Once spotless again, it seems to work okay though, if a little harsher than the yellow frame I'm presently using.
I had a short ride out on it.
It handled the couple of brief climbs, I could go up a gear* or so higher & with a bit more ease
*It's not got the same cluster as 'yellow', so the equivilant 'gear-inch' is a cog higher.
'Yellow' has 52/39 chainrings & a (8-speed) 13-23 cluster
Dyna-Tech has 52/39 & a (8-speed) 12-21
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those ratios are going to keep the thighs burning especially up your neck of the woods
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those ratios are going to keep the thighs burning especially up your neck of the woods
No problems so far.
I used to be able to sit down & push a 39x21 up HolmeMoss (http://www.rural-roads.co.uk/a6024/a60241.shtml) & Norwood Edge (Otley area) without a problem, & on a good day 'big-ring' it up most of the way up HolmeMoss (West Yorkshire side)
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i usually only keep it in 1 gear front big ring and rear 5th :) its great in the lowest all i gotta do is hold th front brake n i can wheel spin it either that or set off with front wheel locked up 8)
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can wheel spin it either that or set off with front wheel locked up 8)
I could do that with the cross bike, or my Pace (Magura hydraulic brakes) on a damp surface
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I resurrected the Dyna-Tech this afternoon. It's been hung in the garage for just over 2years.
It needed a good scrub to clear all the dust, spiders-webs & general filth off it.
I'm trying to decide what to do about one aspect of this bike.
Do I replace the Scott 'Drop-Ins' with normal bars, or retain them?
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They're extremely comfortable on a rough road, but you're a long way from the brake levers.
Plus I seem to remember hearing a few untoward creaks from that area the last time I rode it any distance.
I might replace them just to be safe, having checked out the maximum diameter that the Ritchey stem will allow
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can wheel spin it either that or set off with front wheel locked up 8)
I could do that with the cross bike, or my Pace (Magura hydraulic brakes) on a damp surface
i can do it wit bent v-brakes on tarmak 8)
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can wheel spin it either that or set off with front wheel locked up 8)
I could do that with the cross bike, or my Pace (Magura hydraulic brakes) on a damp surface
i can do it wit bent v-brakes on tarmak 8)
Aah, but could you also do it (during a cross event) on wet grass whilst braking for a rutted corner? :wink:
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can wheel spin it either that or set off with front wheel locked up 8)
I could do that with the cross bike, or my Pace (Magura hydraulic brakes) on a damp surface
i can do it wit bent v-brakes on tarmak 8)
Aah, but could you also do it (during a cross event) on wet grass whilst braking for a rutted corner? :wink:
most likly . . . i never bin to an event th closet t tht i done is going round stanley park too quick :D
but mostly i do street stuff like stairs curbs speed bumps sk8parks and down the middle of the dule carrige way at the end o th ceneral reservation where theres a bit of a ramp 8)
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Aah, but could you also do it (during a cross event) on wet grass whilst braking for a rutted corner? :wink:
most likly . . . i never bin to an event th closet t tht i done is going round stanley park too quick :D
Without falling off, & whilst surrounded by 30 - 40 other riders who want to be in that corner as well? :wink:
Cross is good fun & dirt-cheap to enter (£4.00, or thereabouts) compared to a MTB event
BCF Cross-link (http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/BC/cyx/cyclo_cross_latest_news.asp)
I was out within 30minutes of getting home from work & had a (circa) 30-35 miles in some fairly rolling countryside.
Starting to feel it now though :roll: , early night tonight :wink:
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guess how bored i got last night . . . i ended up puttin some led's on m bike (it kinda like boracer neons) all i need to do is fit the switch n batery pack under th seat n its good t go 8)