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Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: barmiebrumie on April 24, 2007, 20:35:46
Anyone on here using veggie oil found there sump filling up on its own  :oops: ,

I was told a while ago that this could happen but thought they were pulling my leg but as my disco leaks oil  :(bigshock):  I dont top it up & yet there is more in the sump than it started with maybe this is true.

Or are there some kind of oil elfe's that live nearby & fill it up at night  :wink:


Thanks John.
Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: BrumLee on April 24, 2007, 20:40:50
Possible as you can have an injector leaking diesel so veggie oil could do the same.
Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: rollazuki on April 24, 2007, 22:07:32
If you run too high concentration of veg oil, or run it too cold, the injectors dont spray right, resulting in a 'wet' cylinder charge. This then leads back to the sump, and tops up the oil.

HOWEVER, the veg oil is not a suitable lubricant and will shag the engine. If runnin on veg, pull the dipstick every now and again, wet your finger and thumb with the oil, and press em together. If when seperated the oil is 'stringy' , or leaves a strand between finger and thumb, then veg oil is gettin into the sump. Change the oil, and run hotter veg oil, or a lower concentration if mixing. If they seperate and nothing clings between finger and thumb , its an indicator that all is well.

Basically, we all know you can run some motors on 100% veg oil, but dont be too greedy, a high concentration, or not bothering to go down the heated tank route will lead to engine failure.

Rolla.
Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: Range Rover Blues on April 25, 2007, 01:23:37
This is veg oil as opposed to Bio diesel then Rolla?
Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: rollazuki on April 25, 2007, 07:48:01
Yes, Bio diesel is as good as diesel, as long as its not in a common rail diesel. Ive had personal experience in the motor trade of common rails having probs on Bio, like lift pumps packing up, injector pumps failing etc.
Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: Guardian. on April 26, 2007, 19:14:34
buy a ford iveco, runs on neat veg oil from morrisons for 4 years never serviced, very abbused and never missed a beat after about 80,000miles, same as every other derv vehicle ive ran on it( not always neat though). different engines run differently on it some need about 10 percent deisel in it others 25 percent, just to keep them running nice and smoothly.
but still loads of people will tell you you cannot or it will bust yer pump bla bla bla, i and many people i know of whome do very high mileages run on it day in day out, year in year out, no probs.
Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: Range Rover Blues on April 27, 2007, 02:18:08
Doesn't the Ford run the Derv through the head to keep it warm though, perhaps this is why it's so much happier on Veg oil.

Another option is kerosene, though it's not tax paid nad you need to add a gallon of glug to every 200 gallon drum to stop the pump packing up.  I know of people who do it though.
Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: KevinStorr on April 27, 2007, 09:54:06
Kerosene isn't any better than derv for the enviroment or the engine.

People who use it are generally only intereted in saving money.
Title: Veggie oil question
Post by: S188 on April 29, 2007, 17:44:44
Quote from: "Guardian."
buy a ford iveco, runs on neat veg oil from morrisons for 4 years never serviced, very abbused and never missed a beat after about 80,000miles, same as every other derv vehicle ive ran on it( not always neat though). different engines run differently on it some need about 10 percent deisel in it others 25 percent, just to keep them running nice and smoothly.
but still loads of people will tell you you cannot or it will bust yer pump bla bla bla, i and many people i know of whome do very high mileages run on it day in day out, year in year out, no probs.


Would that have an inline injection pump? If so they are pritty hard.  The rotary types you get on cars are the ones more likely to develop problems.

I've herd the larger truck engines seem to be the happyest on veg oil, partly for that resion.
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