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Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: Snooky on May 04, 2007, 14:55:52: Noticed from the TV4x4 scrutineer bit, that a fire exitinguisher is required.
What is the recommended one to use?
Although the thought of a diesel catching fire is quite funny, I need to make sure I don't come with the wrong kit, can anyone advise please :wink:
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: landy4x4xfar on May 04, 2007, 17:55:31: FIRE EXTINGUISHERS
It is recommended that all competing vehicles carry a fire extinguisher, minimum 1.75 litre AFFF or equivalent extinguishant / weight as specified in the MSA yearbook, operable or accessible from the driverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s seat.

further details can be found at www.alrc.co.uk ok matey
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: Snooky on May 04, 2007, 18:04:02: Sorry, so does that mean it needs to be a Foam extinguisher or can I use dry powder or CO2, I was hoping for a list of those I can use as the other link tells me the same.
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: smo on May 04, 2007, 19:47:58: For a tv4x4 event or similar as its only "fun" any extringuisher will do :)
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: landy4x4xfar on May 04, 2007, 21:11:09: good point
if you intend to do trails i would go with the foam AFFF a 2kg is best about Ã‚Â£20 to Ã‚Â£25 quidish
then for fun or comp you cant go wrong :lol: :lol: ok
info taken from www.alrc.co.uk
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: hairyasswelder on May 04, 2007, 22:15:29: Quote from: "landy4x4xfar"
you cant go wrong :lol: :lol: ok
info taken from www.larc.co.uk

Unless you buy a 'water' one :roll: :roll:

Just for my own peace of mind I have a couple of dry powder co2. not to any regulations but.......

Steve
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: Terranosaurus on May 04, 2007, 23:08:50: Quote from: "hairyasswelder"
Quote from: "landy4x4xfar"
you cant go wrong :lol: :lol: ok
info taken from www.larc.co.uk

Unless you buy a 'water' one :roll: :roll:

Just for my own peace of mind I have a couple of dry powder co2. not to any regulations but.......

Steve

For peace of mind I carry 2 BCF/Halon extinguishers, these actually put fires out and they usually stayout too. AFFF is next to useless at putting vehicle fires out, it'll knock it down for you to get out but you'll still loose the vehicle as many competitiors have found since europe banned BCF/Halon and the MSA had to follow suit.
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: marjan on May 05, 2007, 11:26:42: It is now illegal to discharge a Halon Extinguisher !!!.
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: landy4x4xfar on May 05, 2007, 11:48:16: Quote
for peace of mind I carry 2 BCF/Halon extinguishers, these actually put fires out and they usually stayout too. AFFF is next to useless at putting vehicle fires out,

but if you inhale the halon you DIE and AFFF is a foam and to MSA & ARC spec but if its on fire "i wont be nowhere near the dame thing" you can always ask a firefighter what they use ?
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: mmgemini on May 05, 2007, 12:38:42: I've used a BCF in anger. Super stuff. You'll go on a trip if you inhale it.

I've the AFF fitted to my Defender. I hope I don't have to use it as I'm told it's not a good as BCF.

Do not get a dry powder one. It might work if you're lucky. The powder packs dow because it gets shaken when driving. I'm told that doesn't happen woth the newer ones but I',m not prepared to find out.
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: Xtremeteam on May 05, 2007, 13:53:33: Quote from: "marjan"
It is now illegal to discharge a Halon Extinguisher !!!.

hmmm halon fire extinguisher or a vehicle burning like a good un

you tell me what does more damage to the Ozone layer

Thus why i had a halon for ballast in my racer
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: TDi90 on May 05, 2007, 16:51:30: i would be interested in the answer to this one!
but generally AFFF foam ones to the trick right?
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: Terranosaurus on May 05, 2007, 22:35:08: Ask a fire extinguisher supplier or fireman for their off the record recomendation and I bet everyone of them says Halon/BCF. It puts fires out, you just can't carry enough AFFF to do the job, even the fire brigade leave cars to burn themselves out most of the time because they just relight again after a short time. AFFF is not a lot more than a water and washing up liquid with a CO2 cylinder attached to make bubbles.

Countless rally, race and 4x4s have been lost since the EU banned Halon, and thats cars with large plumbed in systems and 2 handhelds. I know of a former British Champion (and many others) who had his AFFF system refilled with Halon. If you know the right people it can still be done. For competition have the required AFFF and then carry a couple of BCFs too is my advice.
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: muddyjames on May 06, 2007, 18:26:15: I carry a mobile phone and dial 999 and use thier extinguishers!!!

I have no idea either which one to put in my disco let alone within reach of the drivers seat on where I can nicely mount it!
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: electricbluebadger on May 06, 2007, 18:31:29: If you have a powder extinguisher you should remove it once a month and turn it up n down a few times to 'unsettle' the powder.....

Cheers Steve
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: smo on May 06, 2007, 20:23:01: Can you actually buy BCF/Halon extringuishers anymore?
Title: Fire extinguishers
Post by: Terranosaurus on May 06, 2007, 20:50:58: Quote from: "smo"
Can you actually buy BCF/Halon extringuishers anymore?

Not legally, but it is still possible to get hold of it...apparently.