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Title: Police again
Post by: Highlander1 on May 20, 2007, 22:38:50
Hi All

As a newby to this site I have been looking at loads of topics, seems the police have a strong presence here.

I can't understand why !!

Police usually end up in the brown sticky stuff at work.

They deal with it every day.

They deal with those who throw it around.

So why the bloody hell do they spend their days off playing in it.

Cheers Highlander1 :lol:
Title: Police again
Post by: Lee_D on May 20, 2007, 22:43:10
It's comes with the job...

..and all the toys too.  :D
Title: Re: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 21, 2007, 10:05:08
Quote from: "Highlander1"
Hi All

As a newby to this site I have been looking at loads of topics, seems the police have a strong presence here.

I can't understand why !!

Police usually end up in the brown sticky stuff at work.

They deal with it every day.

They deal with those who throw it around.

So why the bloody hell do they spend their days off playing in it.

Cheers Highlander1 :lol:


Hear, hear, Highlander1. Welcome to the MC. :wink:
Title: Re: Police again
Post by: Cassillis on May 21, 2007, 20:15:38
Quote from: "Highlander1"
Hi All

As a newby to this site I have been looking at loads of topics, seems the police have a strong presence here.

I can't understand why !!

Police usually end up in the brown sticky stuff at work.

They deal with it every day.

They deal with those who throw it around.

So why the bloody hell do they spend their days off playing in it.

Cheers Highlander1 :lol:


As the saying goes H1 'Were always in it, it's just the depth that varies'
 
least you can decide your own depth in your land rover  :lol:
Title: Police again
Post by: richo on May 23, 2007, 18:36:35
I find that there are alot of police that ride sports bikes to.Just go's to show that they are just like us really.Hats off to you guys i could'nt put up with the crap you get from the scum bags you have to deal with sometimes.
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on May 26, 2007, 08:58:57
The problem is some people think just because you out in a Police uniform you become a stuffy do gooder... Its not like that we are human. I love my cars and 4x4's always have always will. Policing is just another job some people love it some are just working out their time for their Pension... Some bits I love some I hate its like any other job.

The difference between us and you guys is, with you...

The customer is always right

with us...

The customer is always wrong... :wink:  :lol:

Thats a joke by the way!LOL
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 26, 2007, 13:12:30
Quote from: "Boggert"
The problem is some people think just because you out in a Police uniform you become a stuffy do gooder... Its not like that we are human. I love my cars and 4x4's always have always will. Policing is just another job some people love it some are just working out their time for their Pension... Some bits I love some I hate its like any other job.

The difference between us and you guys is, with you...

The customer is always right

with us...

The customer is always wrong... :wink:  :lol:

Thats a joke by the way!LOL


Careful mate, PSD will be after you! Free thought and a sense of humour will not be tolerated! They will drag you off to HQ for Political Correctness Re-Education!
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on May 26, 2007, 13:29:33
Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
Quote from: "Boggert"
The problem is some people think just because you out in a Police uniform you become a stuffy do gooder... Its not like that we are human. I love my cars and 4x4's always have always will. Policing is just another job some people love it some are just working out their time for their Pension... Some bits I love some I hate its like any other job.

The difference between us and you guys is, with you...

The customer is always right

with us...

The customer is always wrong... :wink:  :lol:

Thats a joke by the way!LOL


Careful mate, PSD will be after you! Free thought and a sense of humour will not be tolerated! They will drag you off to HQ for Political Correctness Re-Education!


LOL isn't that the same as "diversity training"

For the benefit of the tape or anyother skipper... I do not normally have a sence of humour, I just let it drop this once :cry: I'm truly sorry... I shall not laugh in public again....





































he he he :lol:Do you think I got away with it?
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 26, 2007, 15:37:38
Thats it! You're doomed! Rubber Heels are already plotting up on you! Your locker will be turned over and all bits of Job notepaper will seized as evidence!
Zis sort of behaviour VILL NOT BE TOLERATED!! Ve do not care if you are good at your job, ve vill prevail!
U vill now report to Room 101 for extended periods of brain washing unt intensive diversity inputs! If you are lucky we may let you continue as a ............................'Diversity Trainer'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Police again
Post by: Cassillis on May 26, 2007, 18:07:37
Quote from: "Boggert"
Policing is just another job some people love it some are just working out their time for their Pension...



Oh Yes indeedy!!!! \:D/

1367 days to go, not that i'm counting :lol:
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on May 26, 2007, 21:55:11
[!Expletive Deleted!].... 4475 to go :shock: now I'm feeling depressed!

Right now, I brassed of going to issue a section 59 later ... baaaah humbug! :twisted:
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 26, 2007, 21:59:30
13 years, 7 months. I can't be bothered to try and work it out to the exact minute, but am I looking forward to getting that pension! That is of course old Adolf Brown hasn't taken it away!
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on May 26, 2007, 22:10:57
He will have sold it to the lowest bidder and it will be worth 10% of what it is now.... oh god Boggert look on the bright side why don't you!
Title: Police again
Post by: lyndon on May 26, 2007, 22:16:29
Checked with a Pension forcast excel sheet someone sent me last week. If the gov drop our pay rises by just .5% between now and and my retirement in 14 yrs time it will mean £10,000 difference in my payout. Not happy !!
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 26, 2007, 22:17:00
Come the Revolution!
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on May 26, 2007, 22:19:15
Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
Come the Revolution!


I'll drive the bus... :lol:
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 26, 2007, 22:25:41
I'll hold the red flag, and run in the opposite direction!
Title: .
Post by: mad geordie on May 27, 2007, 11:43:38
police are only human they like everything we like, yes there are some tossers who wear the uniform and go power mad but there are good and bad in every job, i,m a taxi driver and pick police officers up and they say" i couldnt do your job!" lol
i would love to be a copper for a few days lol
they do a good job and i respect them even when they give me three points for running a amber light not red but amber! lol
Title: Re: .
Post by: Boggert on May 27, 2007, 13:23:59
Quote from: "mad geordie"
police are only human they like everything we like, yes there are some tossers who wear the uniform and go power mad but there are good and bad in every job, i,m a taxi driver and pick police officers up and they say" i couldnt do your job!" lol
i would love to be a copper for a few days lol
they do a good job and i respect them even when they give me three points for running a amber light not red but amber! lol


Why don't you become a Special...?
Title: .,
Post by: mad geordie on May 27, 2007, 13:59:10
lol it will never happen mate i grew up in a very rough estate and i,m well known and know every1 lol  if you know what i mean it would make life so hard for myself and my famaily, if anything happened straight away it would be my fault,
and i have a criminal record ( fighting) long story .... no proud but whats done is done
Title: Police again
Post by: datalas on May 27, 2007, 14:33:57
look on the bright side,  whilst there's not a wondrous prospect ahead for pensions and pay rises, at least we're not likely to be making many redundancies any time soon..

Although, that might be a bad thing :(
Title: Re: .,
Post by: Boggert on May 27, 2007, 17:28:01
Quote from: "mad geordie"
lol it will never happen mate i grew up in a very rough estate and i,m well known and know every1 lol  if you know what i mean it would make life so hard for myself and my famaily, if anything happened straight away it would be my fault,
and i have a criminal record ( fighting) long story .... no proud but whats done is done



Thats a shame... I know what you mean could cause problems for you family... I've been lucky no problems at all, but I have a friend who has suffered badly, she almost quit sadly her family were not supportive.
I have a lot of respect for the cabbies where I work, they have helped me out from time to time, and as for ferrying drunks about at the weekend!!!!! how you do it I'll never know, bad enough having them vomiting in the cage of the van on the way to custody!
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on May 27, 2007, 20:12:17
Quote from: "Boggert"

LOL isn't that the same as "diversity training"



That's the one job title that thankfully doesn't exist at our Hospital........ yet.
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 27, 2007, 20:38:26
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Quote from: "Boggert"

LOL isn't that the same as "diversity training"



That's the one job title that thankfully doesn't exist at our Hospital........ yet.


it'll happen BTM, and a whole department will be built up round along with support staff and a whole IT section to deal with it! :roll:
Title: Police again
Post by: TDi90 on May 27, 2007, 20:51:01
Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"

 whole IT section to deal with it! :roll:


thats where me and my computing knowledge comes in  8)
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on May 27, 2007, 20:52:29
Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Quote from: "Boggert"

LOL isn't that the same as "diversity training"



That's the one job title that thankfully doesn't exist at our Hospital........ yet.


it'll happen BTM, and a whole department will be built up round along with support staff and a whole IT section to deal with it! :roll:


If we do get one, I reckon my 'card will be marked' (along with several of my cynical collegues)

Why would we need this garbage to tell us what we already know; 'Treat Others As You Would Like Them To Treat You' (which is the bottom line, along with good manners - which cost nothing)
Doubtless they'd tell us we were wrong??




I think I'll join this organisation (http://www.capc.co.uk/) & wear their badge to any possible (hypothetical at this stage) meetings.
Sorry........ discussions :roll:
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 27, 2007, 21:10:33
I think I would receive 'extra special re-education' if I went into work with one of their badges on!
I was 'strongly advised' about going on the 2002 Countryside March by my old Force, as it could 'have serious ramifcations on my future career' due to the possible political links. Needless to say that scared me and I went with several other colleagues and had a great day out
This is what gets me about all this PC stuff. Basically it is censorship as the link from BTM suggests.
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on May 27, 2007, 21:35:41
Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
I think I would receive 'extra special re-education' if I went into work with one of their badges on!

I'll take a wild guess that they'd be banned by our Trust, or I'd be given the reconditioning course
(a bit like 'Clockwork Orange', with the eyelids held open???)

Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
I was 'strongly advised' about going on the 2002 Countryside March by my old Force, as it could 'have serious ramifcations on my future career' due to the possible political links. Needless to say that scared me and I went with several other colleagues and had a great day out
This is what gets me about all this PC stuff. Basically it is censorship as the link from BTM suggests.

Why should your outside interests be of such an interest to your 'superiors?

After all if you joined the Ramblers Association, would they advise you of their criminal activities (ie; their roots in mass-trespass on privately owned land??)
Or would they tell a WPC that she couldn't join a Womens Institute, as it may possibly have links to Civil Disobedience? (hasn't it got historical links to the Suffragette Movement???)



I've just been looking at some of the comments on 'CAPC' site. This one made me grin
 :lol:
I worked for a while as a labourer on a building site in West Yorkshire. At the start of my time working there I had to attend a health and safety talk and run down of the site rules. So far so good they are dangerous places to work.
Towards the end of the talk the issue of workmen not being allowed to remove their tops or to shout or whistle things at female passers by was addressed.
Health and safety joining the force of political correctness in mutual smug satisfaction. I smiled and nodded and signed the paperwork confirming I would comply and then went to work.  

After about 90 minutes I was called to the site office to discuss my behaviour.  I informed the management that I had broken no rules and they finally had to admit defeat and reluctantly I was allowed back to work.  



Wait for the 'punchline'







Once working I continued to work wearing just my bra (on top) and heckle male passers by to the delight of many and the frustration of the other workers.  
Being female I feel I struck a blow for their ridiculous attempts at political correctness and would beg any builder or building company out there to remember that being whistled at is a compliment that can make someone's day not an offence to half the population.
Title: Police again
Post by: freelanderpx54 on May 27, 2007, 22:09:51
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Quote from: "Boggert"

LOL isn't that the same as "diversity training"



That's the one job title that thankfully doesn't exist at our Hospital........ yet.


We have diversity training at the Hospital I work at. A foundation Trust in Salford. They like to bang on about peoples rights and if some one is violent to a member of staff then that person is Red carded (Oooooooooh) All this means is the next time they get admitted to A&E they are fast tracked through the department to get rid of them.

A patient was getting mouthy with me and eventually tried to punch me, unfortunately  for him I was in the middle of an acrimonious divorce and was having a particularly bad day. Patient was stretchered back to his ward and I felt much better until I got carpeted by HR. I argued my case and there was no further action.

With diversity training they should tell the patients and visitors that they should speak to the staff in the same manner that they want to be spoken to - they might get a bit further
Title: Police again
Post by: Highlander1 on May 27, 2007, 22:15:42
Good on ye mate.

Summary justice

We should start giving these scum a bit of their own medicine it's more effective.

You get a round of applause from me.

top man. =D>
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on May 28, 2007, 09:41:32
Quote from: "freelanderpx54"
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Quote from: "Boggert"

LOL isn't that the same as "diversity training"



That's the one job title that thankfully doesn't exist at our Hospital........ yet.



They like to bang on about peoples rights and if some one is violent to a member of staff then that person is Red carded (Oooooooooh)

We have the Red & Yellow card system, but I've never seen it used.

Quote from: "freelanderpx54"
All this means is the next time they get admitted to A&E they are fast tracked through the department to get rid of them

If a patient is known to be violent/abusive, security are informed as soon as he/she walks through the door. Then, at their discretion, the Police can be informed.



Quote from: "freelanderpx54"
A patient was getting mouthy with me and eventually tried to punch me, unfortunately  for him I was in the middle of an acrimonious divorce and was having a particularly bad day. Patient was stretchered back to his ward and I felt much better until I got carpeted by HR. I argued my case and there was no further action


I had my nose broken by a junkie.
He'd been brought into Resus, as he'd been found on a street -corner collapsed & unconcious, so after the 'Narcan'  had done its work he caem round :roll:
What a totally charmless individual he turned out to be..............

He started arguing with 2 of the Sisters & a staff-nurse about wanting to leave, we wanted to observe him due to the large lump on his head.

He eventually calmed down & we agreed to his leaving (if he signed himself out)
I was showing him where to get out when he turned round & 'WALLOP!', he caught me a good one on the nose - in front of 5 witnesses, CCTV & another patient.
(one of the other Nurses who was about 5yards away told me later she heard the 'crack' :lol: )
I tried to grab him, but had made the mistake of feeling my nose first, so couldn't hold him due to greasy (blood covered) hands.
Next thing I see, 16stone of (ex- Yorkshire Schoolboys) r*gby playing Doctor slams him into the floor :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Then several of Wakefields finest roll up & sling him head first into the van. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Of course since then, we've been told that we are allowed to act in self-defence if we feel our patient, our collegues, or if you yourself feels threatened & really anticipate trouble from a patient.
But we all have doubts as to whether the Trust would side with you, if you're seen to strike a patient, even if you feel threatened - after all a witness may give a perspective that's at odds with your account

Quote from: "freelanderpx54"
With diversity training they should tell the patients and visitors that they should speak to the staff in the same manner that they want to be spoken to - they might get a bit further

Good grief :shock: , that wouldn't work, it's not PC to tell people how to behave (unless it suits the cause of the PC brigade)
Title: Police again
Post by: Highlander1 on May 28, 2007, 10:15:50
Hi Bush tucker man

You can use as much force as is necessary to regain compliance and control of the situation anything from shouting at them to getting them out by dragging them by the arm, or if required and you know your going to be attacked stop the attack by bringing them down.


Just ask yourself is it justified. but do it quickly and have the Bds before they have you. Self defence isn't retaliation IE once the knifes gone in you don't then give him a pasting.

You've got to protect yourself and others using force if necessary.

If someone came over the wire and you shot him. You'd have committed a crime if you couldn't  prove that you thought he was about to kill some IE gun raised bomb on back etc.

If a car was driving deliberately at you you couldn't shoot unless there was no way of jumping out of the way.

Hope the nose healed OK.

H1
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on May 28, 2007, 10:43:09
Quote from: "Highlander1"
Hi Bush tucker man
You can use as much force as is necessary to regain compliance and control of the situation anything from shouting at them to getting them out by dragging them by the arm, or if required and you know your going to be attacked stop the attack by bringing them down.


I was told I'd be put on a 'Control & Restraint' course after the event, but when asked why I didn't attend, I had to say I never received notification (this was in early 2006. Nose broken October 2005)
About a month ago, one of our Consultants secretarys gave me a letter with an apology, she'd found it behind a filing cabinet (must have been on top & slid off?)




Quote from: "Highlander1"

Just ask yourself is it justified. but do it quickly and have the Bds before they have you. Self defence isn't retaliation IE once the knifes gone in you don't then give him a pasting.

You've got to protect yourself and others using force if necessary.

Well there's obviously plenty of loud & aggresive drunks that deserve it, but I've never seen it done yet by staff.
Restraint of a drunken/head-injured patient who is 'thrashy'/combative on a trolley happens all the time though, but that's only in order to treat them - I walked in on Saturday morning & had to help with this before even havin a cup of tea :cry:



Quote from: "Highlander1"

Hope the nose healed OK.

H1


It did eventually, but is still very offset :lol:
Still he ended up in Court, after much persuasion - by members on here as well!! (I didn't want to be an 'Ambulance Chaser') I got compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 28, 2007, 17:17:48
Good on you BTM, for pushing that.
I recall the 'good old days' when there was such a thing as summary justice, not that I condone that sort of thing of course! :roll:
I had been injured along with 12 other officers following a huge disturbance on Great Yarmouth Seafront., and ended up with fractured ribs after being stamped on. Nice. I was taken to the local A&E and was met by the staff, who were absoulutely ace.
Shortly after one of the 'main opposition players' was brought in. He was being exteremely obnoxious to the staff and hade to have stitches after he had headbutted a baton. It was pointed to the staff what part he had played.
Funnily enough they became very short of anesthetic all of a sudden. I wonder how that happened? :?
Title: Police again
Post by: thermidorthelobster on May 28, 2007, 17:28:04
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Of course since then, we've been told that we are allowed to act in self-defence if we feel our patient, our collegues, or if you yourself feels threatened & really anticipate trouble from a patient.

We're allowed to do something similar with the kids at school - physically intervene if we think they are going to injure themselves, another person or even the school's property.  I think that refers to restraint, though, rather than actually lamping them.
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 28, 2007, 18:46:59
electric cattle prods! Thats the answer!
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on May 28, 2007, 20:16:46
After being kicked, punched and spat at the other week...I'll have one! :lol:  :twisted:
Title: Police again
Post by: Highlander1 on May 28, 2007, 20:47:12
You should stop jumpiing the que at Macdonalds then. :lol:
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on May 28, 2007, 23:01:41
Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
Good on you BTM, for pushing that.


When it happened I wasn't bothered about compensation, as I stated, I see it as Ambulance Chasing, but as was pointed out to me (by family, collegues & on here) you don't go to work to be punched by scrotes.
So, still with some misgivings I went to the Union & started the ball rolling, it took 14months to get the payment
(& I still probably got less half what I'd receive if I'd tripped over a paving flag :lol: )


Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
I recall the 'good old days' when there was such a thing as summary justice, not that I condone that sort of thing of course! :roll:

No, I know, it never happened, just as the 'old hands' that I've spoken to tell me :lol:


Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
Nice. I was taken to the local A&E and was met by the staff, who were absoulutely ace.

Shortly after one of the 'main opposition players' was brought in. He was being exteremely obnoxious to the staff and hade to have stitches after he had headbutted a baton. It was pointed to the staff what part he had played.
Funnily enough they became very short of anesthetic all of a sudden. I wonder how that happened? :?


I've heard of that as well.
"Sorry, the anaesthetics run out, can we stitch those Police Alsation teeth-marks in your posterior without it?"


Plus, with a wife-beater;
(Doctor) "Well Mr XX, the Police Officer tells me you have no feelings.. (sticks a large bore cannula in him 'with force')
But you certainly bl**dy felt that didn't you!!" :lol:





Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
electric cattle prods! Thats the answer!

We keep asking for them from Supplies, but to no avail :cry:
I think we'll by-pass 'management' & go speak to Medical Physics & get them to make some for us
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 28, 2007, 23:16:23
One day, the lunatics (us) will take over the asylum!
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on May 29, 2007, 09:31:01
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"


Plus, with a wife-beater;
(Doctor) "Well Mr XX, the Police Officer tells me you have no feelings.. (sticks a large bore cannula in him 'with force')
But you certainly bl**dy felt that didn't you!!" :lol:



 :shock: LOL Youch! :lol:

Anyone who beats their wives are the lowest of the low... Now I'm like everyone else I fall out with my good lady from time to tome, but I would never raise my hand to her.
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on May 31, 2007, 19:52:53
I forgot.

One of our Nurses was the victim of an attempted strangulation a while ago :twisted:  :evil:

The drunken scrote had apparantly already had a go at one of the male Nurses, but had had his hands knocked away.

Whilst waiting for Security & due to a mistake with the Triage cards, he was re-seen by one of the girls & she got to the point of almost fainting due to asphyxiation before someone came into the cubicle & got him off her.
Scum-bag!

I do so hope he resisted arrest :evil:



And so the battle goes on :roll:

This is an old case, but I took notice of it at the time.
Just look at the last paragraph & note that the CPS never prosecuted!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4755924.stm

Presumably it was either due to that old chestnut; Not In The Public Interest' (which it surely is!!), or 'Lack Of Evidence'??

Now without wishing to cause any offence in the slightest to our members on here who are part of 'The Thin Blue Line'; if that had been a Police Officer who had been assaulted in the course of his/her duties, would the CPS have given the same result?

I ask as this case also discussed quite widely at our Trust (on at least in our department)
The concensus of opinion was that he'd have been sent down for as long as possible if it had been a Bobbie.
Title: Police again
Post by: BigBlue90 on May 31, 2007, 20:30:55
Quote
The concensus of opinion was that he'd have been sent down for as long as possible if it had been a Bobbie.


Not in my experience more likely to be told that is expected in your line of work!!!!!

That was for a fractured elbow with 4 witnesses two of whom were members of the public. Lack of any cctv evidence and the above comment about it being expected were the reasons given by the 'criminal protection service'
Title: Police again
Post by: Llanigraham on May 31, 2007, 20:37:11
I love the attitude by our local Ambulance Trust when faced by aggressive "customers".
They ask if they wish to be treated, and if they refuse walk away, on the grounds that if the "injury" is severe enough they will soon pass out, and then can be treated with "restraint".
Amazing how successful a couple of bandages can be!!
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on May 31, 2007, 21:04:49
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
I forgot.

One of our Nurses was the victim of an attempted strangulation a while ago :twisted:  :evil:

The drunken scrote had apparantly already had a go at one of the male Nurses, but had had his hands knocked away.

Whilst waiting for Security & due to a mistake with the Triage cards, he was re-seen by one of the girls & she got to the point of almost fainting due to asphyxiation before someone came into the cubicle & got him off her.
Scum-bag!

I do so hope he resisted arrest :evil:



And so the battle goes on :roll:

This is an old case, but I took notice of it at the time.
Just look at the last paragraph & note that the CPS never prosecuted!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4755924.stm

Presumably it was either due to that old chestnut; Not In The Public Interest' (which it surely is!!), or 'Lack Of Evidence'??

Now without wishing to cause any offence in the slightest to our members on here who are part of 'The Thin Blue Line'; if that had been a Police Officer who had been assaulted in the course of his/her duties, would the CPS have given the same result?

I ask as this case also discussed quite widely at our Trust (on at least in our department)
The concensus of opinion was that he'd have been sent down for as long as possible if it had been a Bobbie.


I hate to say this but, I've had assault Police cases dropped by CPS because the practice of 'plea bargaining', which apparently doesn't go on, did go on.
I kicked up a stink about and was told in court by the 'supposed learned counsel' that I should accept being assaulted as part of my job, and if he had his way, he wouldn't prosecute for it.
I put in a complaint, and the brown smelly stuff hit the metallic whirly thing.
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on May 31, 2007, 21:58:13
Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"

I hate to say this but, I've had assault Police cases dropped by CPS because the practice of 'plea bargaining', which apparently doesn't go on, did go on.
I kicked up a stink about and was told in court by the 'supposed learned counsel' that I should accept being assaulted as part of my job, and if he had his way, he wouldn't prosecute for it.
I put in a complaint, and the brown smelly stuff hit the metallic whirly thing.


Being assaulted shouldn't be a part of anyones job. The Police deserves as much respect as anyone else.
Sadly, however it does come with the territory for you guys (& girls)  :(

Every Friday/Saturday when I'm on lates I expect to see at least 1 totally obnoxious & charmless waste of DNA.

I'm glad to hear that the said brown stuff did its job when put in contact with the whrling blades :D
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on June 01, 2007, 12:44:58
I have only been assulted at work once thank goodness and they was a few weeks ago and its going no where as the idiot CCT operator was distracted by a car and took the camera off the officers who were trying to make an arrest! :roll:

I guess that ford focus was a risk to all! :roll:
Title: Police again
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on June 01, 2007, 14:01:36
Quote from: "Boggert"
I have only been assulted at work once thank goodness and they was a few weeks ago and its going no where as the idiot CCT operator was distracted by a car and took the camera off the officers who were trying to make an arrest! :roll:

I guess that ford focus was a risk to all! :roll:


Perhaps it was a fudamentalist insurgent Ford Focus!
Title: Police again
Post by: welshlaner on June 01, 2007, 16:30:18
Interesting this thread

picked up this quote


"We have the Red & Yellow card system, but I've never seen it used."

now i know someone quite old who has several minor health problems quite harmless and never been in tourable before

but he claims he is treated differently at hospitial, clinics and the like claims he is followed by secuirty, always seen first, doors left open, doctors ask nurses to attend examinations, even his wife notices a difference.

his surname is simialar to a pretty rough local family but no connection case of mistaken identity ? , does not mind though never spent more than a hour on car parking charges saves a cool fortune.
Title: Police again
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on June 02, 2007, 13:51:57
Quote from: "Llanigraham"
I love the attitude by our local Ambulance Trust when faced by aggressive "customers".
They ask if they wish to be treated, and if they refuse walk away, on the grounds that if the "injury" is severe enough they will soon pass out, and then can be treated with "restraint".
Amazing how successful a couple of bandages can be!!


I believe that our local Trust has the same attitude.

I do know that if a drunken/obnoxious patient starts spitting on the floor of the 'drunk-mobile', if they don't stop when asked, a very tightly applied oxygen mask does the trick for the crews.

If the patient is 'fighty'/'combative'/etc.... be it from alcohol/medication/head-injury/fitting, etc... two crews will be involved.

If it's that bad, one 'Drunk-Mobile' will be left 'at scene', with 3 in the back with patient & one driving, thankfully it's rarely that bad, usually the 2nd vehicle will follow with one crew member driving.



On a slight digression;
Recently our Security staff asked for stab-proof vests, but were refused them by management.
When asked why, they were told that it was a 'calculated risk' not to issue them.
But, after all, what members of management are doing what they do?
(I must add that it wasn't their own manager who said "No" to them, it was from above)

I've taken a carving knife off someone, thankfully he was drunk enough to be compliant & not aggresive with it.
I've never told SWMBO, as she'd go ballistic with me

Although, if he'd threatened me with it, I'd have still had to ask him for it, due to the possible risk to female staff (or hit him with a Fire Extinguisher!!)


Also, it's not so long since one of the Security staff was threatened with a rifle! (the guy ended up getting shot dead by Armed Police in nearby woodland!)
http://www.wakefieldtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=702&articleid=318056
Title: Police again
Post by: Boggert on June 02, 2007, 19:24:55
Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle"
Quote from: "Boggert"
I have only been assulted at work once thank goodness and they was a few weeks ago and its going no where as the idiot CCT operator was distracted by a car and took the camera off the officers who were trying to make an arrest! :roll:

I guess that ford focus was a risk to all! :roll:


Perhaps it was a fudamentalist insurgent Ford Focus!


It could have been something to do with the long legs getting out of the car that made him put us at risk :roll:
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