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Title: Dakar
Post by: Edge on May 21, 2007, 20:22:16
Do we have any members entering the 2008 race :?:
Is anyone planning on entering in 2009 :?:

Apparently, 80% of entrants are amateurs

www.dakar.com (obviously you'll need to click on the english flag "unless you speak french").
Title: Re: Paris/Dakar
Post by: Xtremeteam on May 21, 2007, 20:23:34
Quote from: "Edge"
Do we have any members entering the 2008 race :?:
Is anyone planning on entering in 2009 :?:

Apparently, 80% of entrants are amateurs

www.dakar.com


ill enter




If you sub me a Td5 powered tomcat  :lol:
Title: Dakar
Post by: Edge on May 21, 2007, 20:25:35
No Seriously Mike, now i'm earning more than ive evr been used to.... i'm thinking about 2009 (in a Tomcat), but could do with chatting to someone who's already done it.
2009 gives us plenty of time for prepping for a near death adventure.
Title: Dakar
Post by: Xtremeteam on May 21, 2007, 20:31:35
Quote from: "Edge"
No Seriously Mike, now i'm earning more than ive evr been used to.... i'm thinking about 2009 (in a Tomcat), but could do with chatting to someone who's already done it.
2009 gives us plenty of time for prepping for a near death adventure.
think u need to give me a call :wink:
Title: Dakar
Post by: Edge on May 21, 2007, 20:46:08
P.M. sent
Title: Dakar
Post by: Wolfie on May 21, 2007, 20:50:36
Couple of friends did it this year, but didn't complete it due to problems after emptying the sump mid way through one leg.

They too up Cross Country (as we mus now call it) speed events in 2005 when they decided that they wanted to do the Dakar.

What Competition Licence do you have? If you haven't yet you'll be needing to get on with it to go through the upgrade process.

It's a dream but I'm nowhere near good enough, or fit enough, to try for a while.

Plus there's the small matter of paying for it, though if I was any good I suppose sponsorship would be possible.

Regards

Wolfie
Title: Dakar
Post by: Eeyore on May 21, 2007, 21:16:04
Mmmm, Dakar

Whaddya reackon, 50k budget, plus car?

I'm dreaming, anyway.

But if you got the funding, go for it! What an adventure!  8)

cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: Dakar
Post by: Tinks on May 21, 2007, 21:43:56
I'd definatly do it no questions asked!!
Bowler wildcat would be my choice!! I'd give my left arm for one :P , only i don't wana drive an auto so think i might need it!! :lol:
Only thing is there is no way i could afford the car or anything else that goes with it  :cry:  :cry:

So if anyone would like to buy me a bowler wildcat and pay for me to do the event i'd gladly accept the offer!!?!! :wink:
Title: Dakar
Post by: zebidee on May 21, 2007, 22:18:42
Quote from: "Tinks"
I'd definatly do it no questions asked!! Bowler wildcat would be my choice!!


Gorgeous ... seen the Bowler website before but never seen one in action - just found a Top Gear clip:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/223633/bowler_wildcat/

Z~
Title: Dakar
Post by: Wolfie on May 21, 2007, 22:27:43
Quote from: "zebidee"
Gorgeous ... seen the Bowler website before but never seen one in action


Shameless plug time.

You should go along to the Scottish Hillrally (http://www.scottishhillrally.co.uk/frameset-index.htm) and see some in action. There should be some there.

Or a bit further from you is the Scottish round of the BORC (http://www.4x4.com)

Regards

Wolfie
Title: Dakar
Post by: thermidorthelobster on May 21, 2007, 22:30:32
I've driven it.

If you count driving bits of some of the pistes from years ago in a very slow 101.
Title: Dakar
Post by: Tinks on May 21, 2007, 22:46:03
And just to make you drool even more the Nemisis comes out this year!! :P

I'd like one of each please??

If you google bowler Ltd then go to photo's there is some really cool pics as well as full spec and a whole of sports cars that the bowler does 0-60 faster than!! :lol:  

Any one see Ed's in LRO this month?? :?
Title: Dakar
Post by: Edge on May 22, 2007, 20:02:53
Payment method
From 15 May to 22 June 2007
(amateurs only)***
From 25 June to 15 Nov. 2007

Vehicle fee for cars
(per vehicle)*
€2,800 on 15 Nov. 2007

Vehicle fee for 4x4 trucks
(per vehicle)**
€4,100 on 15 Nov. 2007

Vehicle fee for 6x6 trucks
(per vehicle)**
€5,100 on 15 Nov. 2007

Individual fee for all types of
vehicles (per person)
€4,000 upon registration
€3,000 on 30 Sept. 2007
€3,000 on 15 Nov. 2007
€10,000***

Pro drivers.
€5,000 upon registration
€7,000 on 15 Nov. 2007
€12,000

*The vehicle fee depends on the vehicle category
**See the regulations for the corresponding dimensions (maximum height = 2.5 m for cars, 4.2 m for trucks)
*** Amateurs are racers who did not finish in the top ten in the Dakar scratch within the past five years, who have
not been on the F.I.A. or A.S.O. list of priority drivers within the past three years, and whose fame is not directly
tied to an achievement in motor sports.

Note: Any failure to pay will automatically result indisqualification from the
Dakar rally for the next five years.
From 15 May to 22 June 2007
Driver fee for all types of
vehicles (per person)
€10,000 €12,000

These fees include
Sporting charges
Medical assistance
Transport from Europe to Africa (vehicles and people)
Food and beverages at the bivouacs in Africa
Insurance, which includes civil liability motor insurance valid along the entire route as
well as medical repatriation insurance (see regulations for conditions)
GPS rental*
Distress beacon rental*
IriTrack satellite tracking system rental*
Sentinel system rental*
Refuelling at the bivouacs and during specials (but not during road sections)*
Return boat trip* for vehicles from Dakar to France.**
Ceremony of price giving
*In the vehicle fee
** See the regulations for the corresponding dimensions (maximum
height = 2.5 m for cars, 4.2 m for trucks)
These fees do not include
Visa charges (mandatory)
Satellite telephones (this is no longer mandatory)
Fuel Vehicle repatriation if withdrawn from the race
Travel costs (V.S.O. package, return flight from Dakar, lodging and meals in Europe
and at the Dakar finish)
Refunds
If the vehicle is withdrawn from the race before arriving
in Mauritania (i.e., in Europe or Morocco), the following refunds will be paid per
vehicle if the team does not take the return boat trip (from Dakar to France) included
in the vehicle fee:
€1,000 for cars
€2,000 for 4x4 trucks
€3,000 for 6x6 trucks.

Copied from Dakar site... any spelling mistakes aint mine
Title: Dakar
Post by: ade666 on May 22, 2007, 20:18:46
if you need a navigator i'd love to volunteer. i'm trying to upgrade my rally Licence this year to international. hell if you need people to drive the support car. do they have a volunteers need ad's on the web site
Title: Dakar
Post by: Eeyore on May 22, 2007, 23:03:51
Costs above don't cover fuel for the event, spares and support service. also you have to be preapred to leave your vehilce in the desert if it all goes very wrong.

The there's the vehicle, a season plus of racing (to get the liscence).

And theres the four or five weeks off work, too!

As Wolfie said, we have a number of friends who have competed and they're more than happy to share their expereinces with them what ask.

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: Dakar
Post by: Happe on June 13, 2007, 22:29:53
Quote from: "Eeyore"
Mmmm, Dakar

Whaddya reackon, 50k budget, plus car?

I'm dreaming, anyway.

But if you got the funding, go for it! What an adventure!  8)

cheers
 8)
Eeyore


Hi,

I know the budget of one of the bike riders  from Finnland, Peer Ulevalsetter.
He took part in the Daker in the last few years and to seriously take part and hope to see the finish you have to have a minimum budget of 100000.-Euros
Roughly 75.000.-quit
This is for Bike, assistance, spares, food, clothes iritrak rental, GPS rental.
If you roll that out for a bowler up this to 120000.- quit.

We followed the Daker last year, 2006 on the first two stages in Morokko with our bikes. Or put it this way it took us two days to follow them on one stage ;-)
You have to be good, really good and a you must have the habbit of running a marathon to digest a snack, if you know what I mean  :wink:

Try one of the smaller amateur events first, the Tuareg Rally, the El Chott or the Berlin Breslau.

cheers
Stefan
Title: Dakar
Post by: Eeyore on June 14, 2007, 08:04:37
And now would also be an oppotunity to mention Britains round of the FIA International Cup for Cross Country Bajas (http://www.bajawales.com/)  8)

The stage is approximately 90km long and there is a National/Clubman event running parallel. Get that car together Edge, there's a race to be had!  :wink:

Next round of the British Off-road Championship is up at Castle O'er, Lockerbie - past Dakar drivers and support crew will be there.  8)

Getting 'em talking is easy. Getting to stop - now, that's the trick!  :wink:

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore
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