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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Tango on May 25, 2007, 17:58:59

Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tango on May 25, 2007, 17:58:59
I want to change the oil in my gearbox on a 2.5TD F plate 89. What I want to know is where do you fill it up? I can clearly see the drain plug but where is the filler hole. Also the transfer box is that a seperate fill? If you have any diagrams please let me know if you could send them to me or post a link would be most grateful. Do I have to strip the inside of the truck to get to it????? Thanks.  :wink:
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: extreme90 on May 25, 2007, 18:08:55
right, transfere box fill is above the sticker that shows the ratio of the box, up side of the hand break drum, so looking from back o lanny, its on the left side of h/break drum

g/box fill is a square head that is on the side of the casing up above the transfer box at the front ( where the front prop bolts to )

hope this helps

btw ep90 in t/box  atf in g/box

dan
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tango on May 25, 2007, 18:37:49
Could not have asked for more cheers mate ill fill them up tomorrow BTW where are the drain plugs?
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: extreme90 on May 25, 2007, 22:18:59
right
transfer box drain is a 17mm head bolt underneath the transfere box on the contour bit underneath the inspection plate ( rectangle in shape with about 10 pins holding it on)
theres a magnet on the end to catch any bits of metal filings, dont be alarmed if its covered in filings or if theres chunks on there, its normal

main box now

theres a big bolt directly underneath just before it joins upto the transfer box, undo that then inside the tube theres a filter, remove that and clean it out

then on the side of the boc between the t/box and the g/b there is another big bolt head ( thats the main drain hole, undo that and itll gush out

expect to see a cruddy brownish colour or even white to come it
its normal, so again dont be alarmed

to fill the box i find its best be done inside cab, remove the gearstick gatier ( unscrew the gearnobs 1st ) and using abit of pipe from a funnel, pour it in, roughly 2.7 liters off top of head

hope that helps

dan
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tiki Al on May 26, 2007, 18:37:52
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
right, transfere box fill is above the sticker that shows the ratio of the box, up side of the hand break drum, so looking from back o lanny, its on the left side of h/break drum

g/box fill is a square head that is on the side of the casing up above the transfer box at the front ( where the front prop bolts to )

hope this helps

btw ep90 in t/box  atf in g/box

dan


i thought ATF was short for automatic transmission fluid or am i missing something ?
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: way2deep on May 26, 2007, 18:43:10
Quote from: "Tiki Al"
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
right, transfere box fill is above the sticker that shows the ratio of the box, up side of the hand break drum, so looking from back o lanny, its on the left side of h/break drum

g/box fill is a square head that is on the side of the casing up above the transfer box at the front ( where the front prop bolts to )

hope this helps

btw ep90 in t/box  atf in g/box

dan


i thought ATF was short for automatic transmission fluid or am i missing something ?

your right ,but land rover use it as a gear oil  :wink:
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tiki Al on May 26, 2007, 20:12:48
good to know as i'm just about to fill my re-built gearbox and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations as to what to use
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tango on May 28, 2007, 22:08:13
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
right
transfer box drain is a 17mm head bolt underneath the transfere box on the contour bit underneath the inspection plate ( rectangle in shape with about 10 pins holding it on)
theres a magnet on the end to catch any bits of metal filings, dont be alarmed if its covered in filings or if theres chunks on there, its normal

main box now

theres a big bolt directly underneath just before it joins upto the transfer box, undo that then inside the tube theres a filter, remove that and clean it out

then on the side of the boc between the t/box and the g/b there is another big bolt head ( thats the main drain hole, undo that and itll gush out

expect to see a cruddy brownish colour or even white to come it
its normal, so again dont be alarmed

to fill the box i find its best be done inside cab, remove the gearstick gatier ( unscrew the gearnobs 1st ) and using abit of pipe from a funnel, pour it in, roughly 2.7 liters off top of head

hope that helps

dan



Cheers mate done the gearbox now onto the transfer box. I saw the plate you was on about but I also saw another bolt in front of this plate facing downwards what is that one for? Or are you saying I remove the plate with the 6 bolts in and then remove the drian plug. If you could clear that bit up for me would be very grateful as I dont want to mess it up.  :wink:
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: extreme90 on May 29, 2007, 23:39:20
no theres a 17mm headed bolt at bottom o box underneath the plate, thats what you need to remove, the plate i mentioned was simply a ref point to you start from

dan
Title: This is what threw me!!!!!
Post by: Tango on May 30, 2007, 21:11:35
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t110/Tango_landrover/LANDYTRANSMISSION.jpg)

Silly questions now that I take it is the transmission box!!!. As you could see the plate had a drain bolt by the side of it. What I want to know is should I put ep90 back in as it seems to have had it in before. Or its just where it had not been changed alot came out pretty thick! I have put ATF back in BTW

One more thing is there any kind of stuff I can put in that will prolong the life? Thanks for your help
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tango on May 30, 2007, 21:15:45
Ok I think I have [!Expletive Deleted!] up!!!! I think I have put ep90 in the gearbox will this be ok?
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tango on May 30, 2007, 21:18:47
Quote from: "Tango"
Ok I think I have !Expletive Deleted! up!!!! I think I have put ep90 in the gearbox will this be ok?

Also with Slick 50 stuff to make it last longer and stuff!!!!
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: extreme90 on May 30, 2007, 21:33:53
right the front box that is black in colour which is the main gearbox which sits just behind the engine and infront of the silver box ( with the handbreak drum attatched)which is the transfer box, takes ATF

the silver box thats bolts to the black box takes ep90 gear oil

so the main box the is a pig to fill because the fill is half way up the casing and is between the trans cover ( the one thats easier to fill from inside) ....that takes ATF oil

the transfer box, which is the rear silver one that the props bolt to, take EP90 gear oil

sorry to make you sound thick so i apologise,but it seems like your confused as to what box is what, so ive put it as basic as i can for you

dan
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tango on May 30, 2007, 21:40:33
So if I put ep90 in the gear box would this cause a problem?
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: extreme90 on May 30, 2007, 21:49:43
it run quieter...but the gearchange willbe stiff
also wont lube the places it should do as its too thick

dan
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tango on May 30, 2007, 21:56:54
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
it run quieter...but the gearchange willbe stiff
also wont lube the places it should do as its too thick

dan


That makes sense as I think ep90 was in there when I frist brought the motor, cheers for that all clear now. Also I have added slcik 50 gearbox stuff so that should coat the whole box. I was going to change it tomorrow but I will leave it as it will give it better protection. Cheers for all the onfo dan ;)
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: extreme90 on May 30, 2007, 22:06:40
to clear things up have you put ep90 into main box or transfer box?
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Xtremeteam on May 30, 2007, 22:49:46
if you have put EP90 in the main gearbox get it drained out asap as it will knacker the box
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: extreme90 on May 30, 2007, 22:51:05
why..done it mike  :lol:
it does run quieter tho  :lol:
but yer, get it out  :roll:
dan
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Xtremeteam on May 30, 2007, 22:54:12
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
why..done it mike  :lol:
it does run quieter tho  :lol:
but yer, get it out  :roll:
dan

i havent but a LR stealer did

by the time i drained the oil out the box it wouldntt change & it was so tight it was no real
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: extreme90 on May 30, 2007, 22:58:11
:shock:  :shock: apprentice? or wrong bottle ? or major hangover ?  :lol:
dan
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Tango on May 30, 2007, 23:29:07
Surely if I had standard EP90 then yes but ive got slick 50 in there so its gotta be better then the usual stuff hasnt it?????!!!!!

ill see how it goes if it starts fouling up ill change it to atf ;)

Also the previous owner used ep90 in the box, that what he has always used.  :?
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: L90OOK on May 31, 2007, 09:42:05
The wrong oil will knacker the box...why use something different than is recommended by the manufacturers?  ](*,)  [-X
When the box starts fouling it'll be too late.  I'd drain it & flush it with fresh oil asap
Title: Gear box and transfer box.
Post by: Xtremeteam on May 31, 2007, 21:04:41
Quote from: "Tango"
Surely if I had standard EP90 then yes but ive got slick 50 in there so its gotta be better then the usual stuff hasnt it?????!!!!!

ill see how it goes if it starts fouling up ill change it to atf ;)

Also the previous owner used ep90 in the box, that what he has always used.  :?

i bet hes always used EP90 in the transfer box & ATF in the gearbox

trust those that work on landrovers that we aint pullin your leg  :roll:
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