Mud-club
Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: beast5680 on May 30, 2007, 13:23:39
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in light of new government legislation will the mud-club bar be a smoke free zone as well :lol: and will there be a smoking area outside (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/smoking/rauch28.gif) :lol:
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BRING ON THE SMOKING BAN - it cant come soon enough. im fed up of people who smoke while im trying to eat, and have a drink in a bar smoke smoke smoke ruining my healthy sporty lungs and hurts my eyes.
outside is fine, do as they wish each to their own, but in a public place... how SELFISH.
*puts the soap box down and carries on reivsing*
R
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BRING ON THE SMOKING BAN - it cant come soon enough. im fed up of people who smoke while im trying to eat, and have a drink in a bar smoke smoke smoke ruining my healthy sporty lungs and hurts my eyes.
outside is fine, do as they wish each to their own, but in a public place... how SELFISH.
*puts the soap box down and carries on reivsing*
R
Hang on a minute! You're a student! You aren't healthy. You all eat Pot Noodles and Wotsits, and share pints of Cider through half a dozen straws!
As one who is soon to be made an outlaw, I would just like to add that I only smoke in a bar if someone else is smoking. I don't smoke where people are eating, that is just rank and very bad mannered.
Fair comment about the ban in pubs, clubs and so far. But banning me from smoking in my own car? They can shove that one!
Anyway a little thought for you.
Winston Churchill consumed large amounts of Brandy, smoked big cigars and managed to be a great leader of this country, and live to a decent age.
Adolf Hitler, teetotal, vegatarian, non smoker, all round nasty bloke with a bad temper and a bad taste in facial hair, genocidal tendencies, did NOT manage to become a leader of this country, and thankfully popped his clogs fairly early on in life!
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well here goes. i gave up smoking last year. its now 1 year and 1 month almost to the day that i stopped..... cold turkey.
now i gave up because i wanted to and because of all the talk going on about banning smoking here. i wasnt going to let someone dictate to me where and when i could smoke :evil: . i knew that if i couldnt have a smoke with my pint i would end up not going out at all. i was smoking up to 40 a day with no ill effects, i know that i would of ended up with ill effects in the end but at the time i didnt have any.
now here is my little rant....... although i am a non smoker now, i dont agree with any of this law that is coming in now.... there has MOSTLY been a happy medium for years now ....smoking area's and non smoking area's. now this was in most places that were public...... ( ok maybe not nightclubs ) .... now this was fair..... both sides were catered for......not anymore though.... we are now heading for a society that you cant do anything that may possibly not be good for you :evil: :evil:
i agree that non smokers have a right to not breath the smoke of smokers but didnt they have non smoking places???? :? :? :?
and thats from a non smoker who's misses still smokes
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there has MOSTLY been a happy medium for years now ....smoking area's and non smoking area's. now this was in most places that were public...... ( ok maybe not nightclubs ) .... now this was fair..... both sides were catered for
Happy medium...?
As a character from the Royle Family was want to comment "My rude word referring to rear end!"
Maybe.... maybe I'll agree regarding restaurants... assuming you ignore the ones where the smoke drifts into the no smoking area or where the management do not enforce their own policies.
I can't even come close to agreeing that pubs catered for non-smokers... both here in Warwickshire and back home in Glasgow (now thankfully smoke free!) the pubs I have experienced do not provide a place for me to be without the smoke of others, without having to walk through a smoking area on the way to or from the bar.
The fact that some establishments had non-smoking areas (the minimum required to satisfy whatever legislation) simply gave smokers a reason not to feel guilty.
Now in the main I've bitten my tongue all these years (except when cancerous fume spouting people insist on smoking where they shouldn't) but I'm afraid that ends now.
As far as I'm concerned the world is starting to see some sense... finally a personal habit that causes illness and death will no longer be foisted upon me. For years society has been incredibly selfish.
The day when smokers can keep their smoke, exhaled or otherwise, within their own personal zone, I'll happy let them smoke wherever they can. Until then, if you ask me "do you mind if I smoke?" the answer you'll get is... "No... do you mind if I phart in your face?"
**Disengages long restrained rant mode**
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The government would lose an awful lot of revenue if smoking was banned.
Mind you, drinking is just as bad. Why not ban that?
I'm off for a drive in my fume belching Disco, to feed my methane producing horses, and then I'm going to have a pint of beer and a ciggie!
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I find it rude and disgusting when the guys at work all light up in the lorry. 4 blokes including me and I am the only non smoker. I find this rde and I dont wish to inhale thier smoke.
My dad died just over 18months ago at the age of 55 and I was 23years old. This is all down to him smoking and getting lung cancer that spread very fast to other areas. I feel I have lost ALOT of time doing son and dad things. Also when I lived with my dad I inhaled alot of his smoke and then when I moved out I realised I was adicted to it. I visited him morethan I should have done to start with to get some of the smoke. It only took about a month to get over it but even so!!!
the only pluss side I can see to smoking is that whilst you smokers smoke then the goverment are getting lots of tax which if you werent paying it, I would be some other way :wink:. So I thank you for paying that bit extra tax to the goverment each year and saving me money. (also goes to you drinkers as well :lol: )
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smoke smoke smoke ruining my healthy sporty lungs and hurts my eyes.
And this from a man with a TDi !...........................................................................a bit two faced surely ?
:lol:
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they've had the smoking ban i wales since april 2nd
The effect so far i noticed the pubs i go to inside are smoke free, and people free as well, dead as a door nail, yes some are left inside but the regulars round the bar all gone to. . . . . . .
Outside in the beer garden, so if your a non smoker then gone are the days when you can sit outside, the smoke on non windy days lingers round the enterances.
Also noticed lots more streets smell of smoke now as staff nip outside for a fag, fire escapes, round rubbish bins, ally ways, backs of factories all busy now
even rail plateforms are non smoking so passengers wait on foot bridges then dash for the trains.
outside shopping malls, hosptials, theys a little commuity of smokers
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smoke smoke smoke ruining my healthy sporty lungs and hurts my eyes.
And this from a man with a TDi !...........................................................................a bit two faced surely ?
:lol:
V8's are worse eh V8kenny!!!!!!!! lol :lol: :lol:
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OK, Im a non smoker, have never smoked, and consider myself fit and healthy etc, so the idea of second hand smoke seems to me a bad idea.
BUT. I cant imagine what a pub will be like without fag smoke. Its part of british boozers, sticky carpets, stale beer smell, and fag smoke.
I dunno, all my friends are saying its gonna be a good thing, but I do feel pubs will lose a bit of character.
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BRING ON THE SMOKING BAN - it cant come soon enough. im fed up of people who smoke while im trying to eat, and have a drink in a bar smoke smoke smoke ruining my healthy sporty lungs and hurts my eyes.
outside is fine, do as they wish each to their own, but in a public place... how SELFISH.
*puts the soap box down and carries on reivsing*
R
But banning me from smoking in my own car? They can shove that one!
Why should you be able to smoke in your car when we can't use our mobile phones? Surely smoking in a car is more dangerous than talking on a phone?
Anyway I agree with ROLLA on this one. The Great British Boozer will lose some of it's character after the ban...that's if whetherspoons don't screw them up first!
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BRING ON THE SMOKING BAN - it cant come soon enough. im fed up of people who smoke while im trying to eat, and have a drink in a bar smoke smoke smoke ruining my healthy sporty lungs and hurts my eyes.
outside is fine, do as they wish each to their own, but in a public place... how SELFISH.
*puts the soap box down and carries on reivsing*
R
But banning me from smoking in my own car? They can shove that one!
Why should you be able to smoke in your car when we can't use our mobile phones? Surely smoking in a car is more dangerous than talking on a phone?
Anyway I agree with ROLLA on this one. The Great British Boozer will lose some of it's character after the ban...that's if whetherspoons don't screw them up first!
OK, point taken, but surely a common sense approach is called for here. The next time you go for a drive and see someone using a phone while driving, look at what they do. They are either holding the phone to their ear with the opposite hand, have their head cranked to one side, or if texting :roll: holding the phone at a level where they think it can't be seen while tapping away.
Now, don't get me wrong, according to the Highway Code, certain bits of the Road Traffic Act and other and the Police Driving Manuals say that you must be in control of the car at all times, namely both hands on the wheel.
Just have a look around. How many people do you see, tuning the radio, changing a tape or CD, picking their nose, scratching their arse, arguing with their partner, gobbing off at the kids, eating or drinking, putting make up on (yes, I have seen both genders doing it!) or worse.
You mean to tell me that someone driving along with music loud enough to cause your brain to implode, if heard from two streets away, is not distracted from driving? Please, get real here!
The rare occasions I smoke in the car, the cig is either in my hand or my mouth. Lets face it, where else is it likely to be?
Yes, I probably will try to give up the 'Evil Weed' on 1st July, because I honestly wish I had never started, it is a stupid, pathetic, wasteful addiction.
My main gripe is that this another thing that this bunch of hypocritical losers in charge, are forcing upon us. Freedom of Choice!
Is the House of Commons going to become a smoke free zone? Is it 'F'!
What next?
"Hey man, you can't guff in your own car, because it upsets the carbon deposits and might offend someone"
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["Hey man, you can't guff in your own car, because it upsets the carbon deposits and might offend someone"
:lol: I shouldnt laugh as it probably will be true one day.
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well here goes. i gave up smoking last year. its now 1 year and 1 month almost to the day that i stopped..... cold turkey.
now i gave up because i wanted to and because of all the talk going on about banning smoking here. i wasnt going to let someone dictate to me where and when i could smoke :evil: . i knew that if i couldnt have a smoke with my pint i would end up not going out at all. i was smoking up to 40 a day with no ill effects, i know that i would of ended up with ill effects in the end but at the time i didnt have any.
now here is my little rant....... although i am a non smoker now, i dont agree with any of this law that is coming in now.... there has MOSTLY been a happy medium for years now ....smoking area's and non smoking area's. now this was in most places that were public...... ( ok maybe not nightclubs ) .... now this was fair..... both sides were catered for......not anymore though.... we are now heading for a society that you cant do anything that may possibly not be good for you :evil: :evil:
i agree that non smokers have a right to not breath the smoke of smokers but didnt they have non smoking places???? :? :? :?
and thats from a non smoker who's misses still smokes
Too rite dennis i packed up a month earlier than you and i also still fancey one.What are they going to do next take out sweet machines at work to stop obesity????
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from the owner of a local country pub with has had one bar no smoking from easter i say NO COMMENT!
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Has it changed owt BUNNIE ? Better or worse with the ban?
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where i work i think is unusual in that there is only 1 person in the whole staff of about 30 who smokes(not me by the way i,m a non smoker) and you wouldnt really know he does as its rare he goes out for a fag anyway :?
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We have one smoker
and it hacks pretty much everyone off the way he';s out of the office every 5 mins for a sly one. And thats included weed more than once!
:evil:
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We have one smoker
and it hacks pretty much everyone off the way he';s out of the office every 5 mins for a sly one. And thats included weed more than once!
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spray him with a fire extinguisher then apologies cos you thought he was on fire :lol: :lol:
where our local parish hall is they are not allowed smokers on the premises as its owned by the council so when the ban comes into force if you happened to walk into the car park apparently you will be liable to a fine if caught :roll:
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We have one smoker
and it hacks pretty much everyone off the way he';s out of the office every 5 mins for a sly one. And thats included weed more than once!
:evil:
spray him with a fire extinguisher then apologies cos you thought he was on fire :lol: :lol:
where our local parish hall is they are not allowed smokers on the premises as its owned by the council so when the ban comes into force if you happened to walk into the car park apparently you will be liable to a fine if caught :roll:
My brother got a half-hearted verbal warning for using a faom extinguiser on a customer that wouldnt put his fag out while filling up on the forecourt.
Isolated the pumps, went out and let rip
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:(bigsmoke): smoking ban...bring it on.
I work as a research midwife for a large trial aimed at helping pregnant women to stop smoking. Not only are these women killing themsleves but their babies and everyone else around them.....
Yours, previous 20 a day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But alcohol kills just as many people and harms a lot more. Are you going to ban that?
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Alcohol should be banned from all public places and only to be consumed in the home.
If you are found in a public place with the equivalent of the drink/drive limit in your system you should be made to do automatic community service of 60 hours.....Alcohol is as damaging as fags.
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But alcohol kills just as many people and harms a lot more. Are you going to ban that?
Sounds good to me, loud music too, and talking too loudly or swearing, or ....
(ps, I'm applying for a job at the home office)
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Why should you be able to smoke in your car when we can't use our mobile phones? Surely smoking in a car is more dangerous than talking on a phone?
It is if you hold it up to your ear as it might burn you
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In Wales where the ban has been in a while now, I have noticed that busy pubs no longer smell of smoke but they do smell of sweaty people!
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just to answer a earlier point, smoking in the house of commons has been outlawed for the last 3 years
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In Wales where the ban has been in a while now, I have noticed that busy pubs no longer smell of smoke but they do smell of sweaty people!
ban them as well then :twisted: nothing puts you off your pint like a rank armpit :lol:
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In Wales where the ban has been in a while now, I have noticed that busy pubs no longer smell of smoke but they do smell of sweaty people!
ban them as well then :twisted: nothing puts you off your pint like a rank armpit :lol:
You just wait, I went to see a Queen Tribute band th other night and there was quite a nasty aroma surrounding the dance floor. My missus smokes so I would go outside with her when she went for a fag, when we walked back in the smell would really hit you!
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:twisted: :twisted: as a smoker myself i think it stinks that this ban in pubs comes in on the first of July
if i go out for a drink i have a choice to beer or stay sober and as my local as a food bit i sit in the non smoking bit to eat and move to the smoking side after I've eating or leave and smoke out side which is the way it should be but come on where as this crap about smoking in your car come from, if its a works car yes but private cars no way oh and when was the last time a cig talked back to you in the car that's why phones are illegal to use while driving you dipstick because if a cig talked to you while drive it would have to be drugs you where smoking which make you as bad as the drink driver you prat and lets get it out shall we if i walk across the car park smoking i little man would fine me as its council property what they going to do have someone sitting there all day and night waiting 4 people he would more than likely be having a fag himself and since ID cards are not mandatory how is he going to id me for having a fag take a photo and run to the police every 5 minutes, give it a rest sometimes it just makes me mad to here this crap
so what to do next live in a council house be banned from smoking only home owners be allowed.
the rich get richer and the poor pay for it.
walk across a football field council owned get a ticket walk down the pavement little jobs worth hitlers pop up give you a 50 quid fine please.
i will have a fag when and where i want too but until then leave me alone i have no plans on stopping till the day i die and that wont be from smoking i can tell you now
smoking in the house of commons has been outlawed for the last 3 years so where do the pampas windbags go for a fag then on the street corner "no they don't"
Alcohol should be banned from all public places but you see people walking up and down your streets every day with tins in there hands do you go out side and take it off them "no"
it hacks pretty much everyone off the way he';s out of the office every 5 minutes for a sly one "so sake him if he's away from his job that much every day he's not worth employing most people can go 3 or 4 hours between fags, fire his ass for not being at work when he should be
and as for the "Im a non smoker, have never smoked, and consider myself fit and healthy etc" when you get run over by a bus jogging to the heath club eating your carrot sticks remember this you have
"one life live it"
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Steady now, no name calling please.
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the designated smoking room, which happens to be a steel container in the car park
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"Im a non smoker, have never smoked, and consider myself fit and healthy etc" when you get run over by a bus jogging to the heath club eating your carrot sticks remember this you have
"one life live it"
ok, all that you have just wirtten is known as a MATTER OF OPINION.
that statemnt i have just quoted i take it is relation to what i said earlier? well, let me tell you this, what i wrote is my OPINION. so before you go telling me i am going to get run over by a bus etc etc boooooring.... just remember each person has their own opinion.
one life live it and i will live mine the way i want to as i am sure you will live yours the way you want to.
pff.
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:twisted: :twisted: as a smoker myself i think it stinks that this ban in pubs comes in on the first of July
if i go out for a drink i have a choice to beer or stay sober and as my local as a food bit i sit in the non smoking bit to eat and move to the smoking side after I've eating or leave and smoke out side which is the way it should be but come on where as this crap about smoking in your car come from, if its a works car yes but private cars no way oh and when was the last time a cig talked back to you in the car that's why phones are illegal to use while driving you dipstick because if a cig talked to you while drive it would have to be drugs you where smoking which make you as bad as the drink driver you prat and lets get it out shall we if i walk across the car park smoking i little man would fine me as its council property what they going to do have someone sitting there all day and night waiting 4 people he would more than likely be having a fag himself and since ID cards are not mandatory how is he going to id me for having a fag take a photo and run to the police every 5 minutes, give it a rest sometimes it just makes me mad to here this crap
so what to do next live in a council house be banned from smoking only home owners be allowed.
the rich get richer and the poor pay for it.
walk across a football field council owned get a ticket walk down the pavement little jobs worth hitlers pop up give you a 50 quid fine please.
i will have a fag when and where i want too but until then leave me alone i have no plans on stopping till the day i die and that wont be from smoking i can tell you now
smoking in the house of commons has been outlawed for the last 3 years so where do the pampas windbags go for a fag then on the street corner "no they don't"
Alcohol should be banned from all public places but you see people walking up and down your streets every day with tins in there hands do you go out side and take it off them "no"
it hacks pretty much everyone off the way he';s out of the office every 5 minutes for a sly one "so sake him if he's away from his job that much every day he's not worth employing most people can go 3 or 4 hours between fags, fire his ass for not being at work when he should be
and as for the "Im a non smoker, have never smoked, and consider myself fit and healthy etc" when you get run over by a bus jogging to the heath club eating your carrot sticks remember this you have
"one life live it"
A quick ciggy break, anyone? :lol: I actually quite like the idea of a ban, as it will give me a chance to get on the wick of a lot of self righteous people, the same sort who go on about:
1) people speeding through their town, but will speed through other people's towns
2) people who cluck on about 'giving the disadvantaged youth more things to do, but won't get involved in helping with local youth groups'
3) people who moan about old folk not getting enough help, but can't be botherered to check on their elderley neighbour'.
4) people who say the Police are marvellous, but then complain about lack of service and gob off about paying a cops wages, when they get done for speeding.
I could go on, but you are probably all bored by now. I'm off for a cig, with my pint, in my garage, on my land, and after that I shall have a large steak, with a fried egg on top, that was cooked in lard because I CAN!
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ok, all that you have just wirtten is known as a MATTER OF OPINION.
that statemnt i have just quoted i take it is relation to what i said earlier? well, let me tell you this, what i wrote is my OPINION. so before you go telling me i am going to get run over by a bus etc etc boooooring.... just remember each person has their own opinion.
one life live it and i will live mine the way i want to as i am sure you will live yours the way you want to.
pff.
dear tdi90 If it was directed at you don't you think it would have had your name in it somewhere and have been quoted by you
sorry but it was not as every one who can be bothered to look can see for themselves dear boy
so the only way to end this is
double pff with a cherry on top
im going for a fag and see if i can borrow a bus from somewhere lol
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Minimun distance for smoking areas should be 15 feet away from any entrance if not then those standing in the bar porch are infringing the law in Scotland you can report the bar to the council if you feel bad about walking through the smoke to get in.
I disagree with banning the smoking by making people stand outside.
You now get the local drunks standing in the street with glasses in hand all day shouting and swearing from 11 am till closing. children tourists and elderly are intimidated by this behaviour and the ground gets covered in fag ends.
If they had continental style bars for people to sit it wouldn't be so bad at the beer gardens behind the bars but blocking the pavement and having glass outside leads to trouble antisocial behaviour increases so do complaints the trouble increases ten fold.
H1
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You see, yet another good idea from Scotland. Other ideas include, television, whisky, erm er, whisky, tarmac, kilts, strange tartan hats with red hair sticking out of them (?), haggis, whisky and most important of all, whisky!
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The trouble with whisky there's never very much in a bottle. :roll:
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get a bigger bottle!
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or get more bottles!! - how do i know that? :oops:
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or get more bottles!! - how do i know that? :oops:
Hah! Sussed you out! so you are not such a healthy clean living student after all! :wink:
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i am 98% of time.
the other 2% (maybe 3-4 times a year i get drunk)Rob
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and now when sitting in a pub garden it will be full of smokers, with butts all over the floor
:roll:
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:sobsob: :smack: :smack: :(bigcry):
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It is all a big circle, I am a smoker, biker, 4x4 driver, clinically obese :? have a go.... why not??? Im sure we can all find things we dont like about anyone if we want
I just dont give a toss......... I dont drink in pubs, and where I work we all smoke so....
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I dont drink much in pubs anyway so it wont be any great effort to stop going completly.
Oh and the 90 isn't insured for business use so they cant stop me smoking there.
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I dont drink much in pubs anyway so it wont be any great effort to stop going completly.
Me neither :wink: :lol: :lol:
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What interesting comments from everyone 8)
Here's my ones :P
I agree with the ban, we've had it in Wales now for a couple of months, as have Ireland and Scotland for a year or so now. we can all find research that supports our theories, but I'm told by many publicans I know locally and in Scotland that trade overall has increased, where any drop has been generally has been confined to the daytime drinkers! make from that what you will.
As regards where you will be banned from...........
Public buildings and 15ft around these buildings (IE government, local authority) which stops people smoking outside the local leisure centre entrance and giving you a lungfull as you enter....
Pubs, clubs etc, no restrictions on how close!
Business vehicles when the vehicle is shared!! if you are the only one in and to use the vehicle there is no problem unless your company decides to ban it. if you share the vehicle I.E a truck that does another route with another driver when you clock off then the ban is in place.
Hotels can nominate certain rooms for smoking as they see fit as long as public areas are smoke free.
I for one used to hate coming home from the pub and having to dump my clothes straight into the washer cos of the smell, I've been out a few times since the ban and its been great.
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ace :wink: :lol: 8)
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I smoked for 22 years, spent most of the time thinking about giving up.
Promised to give up next day but never could when I tried I'd see all those huddled outside smoking and feel like a deprived smoker who could almost kill for a smoke.
Went cold turkey one day because I decided I was no longer a deprived smoker but a non smoker. Had few drams in the evening and declared to everyone in the pub I was a non smoker.
Was the easiest thing I ever did to give up once I got non smoker not deprived smoker into my head. After that the craving lasted couple of day's.
Still get odd milli second relapse which goes as soon as it enters my head without me having to light up.
Saved £2.50 per day instead of spending it on tobbaco. Then took a trip of a life time round Eastern Europe on the proceeds.
Once you realise you haven't got a chimney on your head and tell the wee gremline in your head your not going to give him his fix it's easy.
Get a few funny looks when walking down the street telling it to pi** of co's your not getting a smoke for first couple of day's.
Now I feel free free free not controlled by the most powerful drug in world.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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My Gran also went cold turkey.
She started smoking at 15 on the advice of her doctor (how things have changed!) and smoked at least 20 a day until her 80th birthday when she went cold turkey.
Each day she would walk to the post office and put the money she would have spent on ciggies into her post office account.
When she died, she had left instructions with my mum about her funeral, what to do, who to invite (who not to invite!!!!) and where to hold the wake. at the end of all this my mum was left with 17pence in that savings account. at first my mum thought that my gran had worked things out well, untill she realised that she stil had to send in the death cert. to register the death, the cost of a 1st class stamp at the time was 17pence!!!!!!!
My gran had never been in debt all her life, so ensured that my mum would not be in debt through burying her!!!!!!
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Business vehicles when the vehicle is shared!! if you are the only one in and to use the vehicle there is no problem unless your company decides to ban it.
I think you will find that this is incorrect. If the Vehicle COULD be shared then you are banned from smoking in it. This even involves private vehicles where you have given people a lift to work (smoker or not). In a nutshell if a vehicle is insured for business use and has more than one seat you could be fined.
It all depends on how people (the anti smoking police) interpret the law.
It is an offence to smoke in an enclosed workspace if more than one person could work (or just be) there.
Business insurance on a car implies that it will be used for work (why else would you pay the extra insurance?)
If it has more than one seat then it could be used by more than one person.
Dosn't matter anyway, the law is in I am not going to cry about it.
Next on the list for the do gooders will be booze. They wont stop till we have the swedish model of £7 a pint and £60 a bottle of scotch. Think I will vote for that as an almost non drinker. No fear of going out and being accosted by drunks in the street, no drunks walking past the house shouting at 3am, no more drunk drivers, A&E staff safe on a weekend. Bring on the booze ban :!:
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So what will be next after smoking and alcohol? Freedom of choice, perhaps?
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This from the smoking law website
All public transport (including taxis, trains and buses) and business owned vehicles that may carry more than one specified employee need to display a smoking prohibition symbol of at least 70mm (Dia.) in each compartment that could carry passengers
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This from the smoking law website
All public transport (including taxis, trains and buses) and business owned vehicles that may carry more than one specified employee need to display a smoking prohibition symbol of at least 70mm (Dia.) in each compartment that could carry passengers
Well thats it! Forget the cars being driven dangerously or in a bad condition!
Break out the stingers, lay out the tyre spikes!
We've got a real nasty piece of work in that van! His 'No Smoking sticker' is too small! Call out armed response! He's going down for that one!
I can't wait to be pulled off from my patrol work to be landed with that job. That'll really make my day, and make me feel that I have done something worthwhile to protect society!
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This from the smoking law website
All public transport (including taxis, trains and buses) and business owned vehicles that may carry more than one specified employee need to display a smoking prohibition symbol of at least 70mm (Dia.) in each compartment that could carry passengers
Well thats it! Forget the cars being driven dangerously or in a bad condition!
Break out the stingers, lay out the tyre spikes!
We've got a real nasty piece of work in that van! His 'No Smoking sticker' is too small! Call out armed response! He's going down for that one!
I can't wait to be pulled off from my patrol work to be landed with that job. That'll really make my day, and make me feel that I have done something worthwhile to protect society!
Thats just the thing, its not down to the police to enforce. Here in Wales it is the Health and Safety Dept of the local authority and I assume that this is the case elsewhere. They are the ones that can issue on the spot fines, and refer any action to the court for any prosecution
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So what will be next after smoking and alcohol? Freedom of choice, perhaps?
they have already banned freedom of chioce .motor cycle helmets ,seatbelts,laning in the winter,...why don't they ban lieing,cash for honours ,holidays for favours,
in a so called democratic society shouldn't we be allowed a say in the matters ,it's run more like a communist state every day with b.liar in charge :x
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Why should I suffer from passive smoking cancer.
leave non smokers the freedom of choice to breath clean air!
Oh and we only have about 2 enforcement officers in each city north of the border.
As and ex smoker I was always respectful to non smokers, never in their car or in their face, never in their homes, work place etc I think it comes down to good manners.
As a smoker I hated any sick [!Expletive Deleted!] who would light up in the table next to me in the cafe while I was having a meal with the kids blowing their foul stench across my pie and chips. I often lost the place with those obsequious, obnoxious, selfish, foul cretins who had the manners of a chimp at a tea party.
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