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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Xtremeteam on June 04, 2007, 18:11:12

Title: last time
Post by: Xtremeteam on June 04, 2007, 18:11:12
Right......
thats a alt & pas belt dead after 2 weekends of heavy winching,
just broke on the way home so now i put this to you all,

200 or 300

Ps any one know where i can get a short R380?
Or a TD5
Title: last time
Post by: Edge on June 04, 2007, 18:16:46
300 :wink:  "Bound to say that... as its the only one i have experience of"
Title: last time
Post by: TDi90 on June 04, 2007, 18:44:39
200...
bombproof :lol:  8)
Title: last time
Post by: martha focker on June 04, 2007, 19:08:26
Quote from: "Edge"
300 :wink:  "Bound to say that... as its the only one i have experience of"



and me lol :D
Title: last time
Post by: davidlandy on June 04, 2007, 19:55:36
voted 300

I said that cos I figured that if the 200 was any good then LR wouldnt had introduced the 300.

....and because i have one, Im biased!

lol
Title: last time
Post by: wizard on June 04, 2007, 20:01:16
200 every time
It may rattle and clank a bit more than a 300 but as said before they are bombproof.
Very little in the way of electronic gizmos to go wrong.

wizard :twisted:
Title: last time
Post by: davidlandy on June 04, 2007, 20:22:35
Mr wizard  what electric gizmos does my 300 have that a 200 doesnt?   :wink:
Title: last time
Post by: extreme90 on June 04, 2007, 20:29:55
:roll:  again...do we have to  :evil:

200 for me everytime as i just think there more up and go when you hit the loud pedal, the 300's take some time to pick up,
but once up and running there like a train
+ points for engine... bigger alt as std
   serpintine belt
   cambelt easy peasy

but even so, i still wouldnt have one  :roll:
mike, when i was on conventional car batterys for the winches i was eating a alt belt every outing, but since i fitted yellow tops the belt eating has stopped due to the alt not having to work as hard

ok i still change the pas belt often, but only if running low pressures on the tyres, if stay to 22psi the belt is fine

its just a big can of worms but i still prefer the 200, power and response is there instantly were as the 300 picks up a few seconds later

just my opinion  :roll:
dan
Title: last time
Post by: Eeyore on June 04, 2007, 20:47:45
300 for me.

It's a more tractible engine with a more progressive power delivery. It'll tune up further than a 200 too.

Not many folk race 200s.  :wink:

Any delivery issues with the 300 I would put down to a lax fuel pump.

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: last time
Post by: extreme90 on June 04, 2007, 21:01:04
everyone ive driven has been the same  :roll:
Title: last time
Post by: TDi90 on June 04, 2007, 21:17:42
wooohoooo 200 is winning!!
Title: last time
Post by: Eeyore on June 04, 2007, 21:41:27
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
everyone ive driven has been the same  :roll:


In my experience, they've been as powerful, but the 200 drives like a turbo with an engine fitted. The power delivery once it spins up is quite 'in your face'.

The 300 gets up to the same ultimate speeds, it just does it more progressively, which can go some way to hiding the power. You don't get that same sense of 200 'surge' - which I'll admit is a great sensation. I do like driving Wolfies 200 8)

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: last time
Post by: davidjmiller on June 04, 2007, 21:43:06
errr......V8?

Go on, you know you want to !!!

 :wink:
Title: last time
Post by: Xtremeteam on June 04, 2007, 21:44:19
Quote from: "davidjmiller"
errr......V8?

Go on, you know you want to !!!

 :wink:

insurance say no
Title: last time
Post by: extreme90 on June 04, 2007, 21:46:47
90 say no  :wink:
it cries out for a derv  :lol:
Title: last time
Post by: TDi90 on June 04, 2007, 21:51:58
derv is the way forward :lol:
get it... you know... forward... the way forward... ok i thought it was funny....
ive had a long day in this stoooopid prison.
Title: last time
Post by: extreme90 on June 04, 2007, 21:54:31
derv is the way forward in water anyhow as the v8s stop  :P
Title: last time
Post by: TDi90 on June 04, 2007, 21:58:12
indeedy.
Title: last time
Post by: davidjmiller on June 04, 2007, 22:00:46
just got my renewal quote from Adrian Flux, its under £200 and they've still overcharged me. It's not the insurance that's the problem, it's the cost of the LPG conversion.

Derv engines go better in water - I'll give that one - although V8's can be well sorted with a bit work. However, mine spends 99.9% of its time out of water, it has all the power and sounds amazing (not like a tractor).

V8 vs nasty derv - me thinks we've had this discussion before and you'll never, ever win :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

David
Title: last time
Post by: extreme90 on June 04, 2007, 22:12:29
derv nuff said  :lol:
a diesel can be made to sound nice, just wont ever have the natural balance of a v8 due to it being a inline 4pot

so what bout the v6 dervs then... ? whats wrong with them, they sound sweeter than a v8 pertol

dan
Title: last time
Post by: Devon-Rover on June 04, 2007, 22:28:34
2.8 power torque version with the variable vane turbo. From what i have read it will blow a standard TDI away.


Sorry to be difficult.   :lol:
Title: last time
Post by: extreme90 on June 04, 2007, 22:38:23
and spend the rest of the year fitting it  :roll:
cost a bomb mite aswel fit a td5  :roll:
Title: last time
Post by: tonycougar on June 04, 2007, 23:24:33
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
derv nuff said  :lol:
a diesel can be made to sound nice

dan


I've heard them barking in the forest at Langdale and other off road places, and often wondered what I need to do to my 200 to make it sound like that.
So what do I need to do?
Title: last time
Post by: Devon-Rover on June 04, 2007, 23:35:56
Straight through exhaust. no silencers nothing. Or if you want it a little more civilised i bellive you can add a TD5 tail pipe to a custom front section.

Ok then maybe a 2.8 is a little for fetched. I would go for a 200 with a decent turbo and moving the alt up to where the aircon pump would mount so to keep it away for 50% of the muck you nutters drive in.  :lol:
Title: last time
Post by: tonycougar on June 06, 2007, 22:30:59
Quote from: "Devon-Rover"
Straight through exhaust. no silencers nothing. Or if you want it a little more civilised i bellive you can add a TD5 tail pipe to a custom front section.


Not too difficult then. I'm already half way there, taken the centre silencer out and put straight through pipe there. Just need to take the rear one out.
Title: last time
Post by: tonycougar on June 06, 2007, 22:31:56
Quote from: "Devon-Rover"
......moving the alt up to where the aircon pump would mount so to keep it away for 50% of the muck you nutters drive in.  :lol:


That a damn good idea. I'll have to look into doing that.
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