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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: danielh89 on July 08, 2007, 18:19:07

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Post by: danielh89 on July 08, 2007, 18:19:07
Engine bay :D
can some of you be kind enough to take some pics of your 200tdi powered defenders engine bays.

thanks, Dan :D
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Post by: 90sam on July 08, 2007, 18:29:29
Haha i'll take one of mine tomorrow for you, any paticular areas?
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Post by: MuddyMachine on July 08, 2007, 18:40:00
I am in the middle of fitting one to mine.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b67/baz9751/90/Rebuild/Rebuild35.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b67/baz9751/90/Rebuild/Rebuild36.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b67/baz9751/90/Rebuild/Rebuild37.jpg)

Just need to finish fitting some hoses and the air filter

Have some pics without the wings on too if thats any help
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b67/baz9751/90/Rebuild/EngineRebuild22.jpg)
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Post by: danielh89 on July 08, 2007, 19:28:05
looks like you are doing a nice job on the conversion :D

can you tell me if defenders with 200tdi's factory fitted had intercoolers?
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Post by: Xtremeteam on July 08, 2007, 19:32:48
Quote from: "danielh89"
looks like you are doing a nice job on the conversion :D

can you tell me if defenders with 200tdi's factory fitted had intercoolers?

yup
i have a foctory defender engine retro fitted into my N/A 90

now running a full size intercooler etc
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Post by: MuddyMachine on July 08, 2007, 19:33:43
I believe so, Mine has the oil cooler in the radiator.
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Post by: danielh89 on July 08, 2007, 19:58:09
nice one chaps :D

a real help 8)
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Post by: diggerdog36 on July 08, 2007, 20:37:50
Quote from: "danielh89"
looks like you are doing a nice job on the conversion :D

can you tell me if defenders with 200tdi's factory fitted had intercoolers?

Thats what the 'I' stands for in the name TDi, intercooler!!!
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Post by: muck_truck on July 08, 2007, 21:06:48
ive got one of a factory 200tdi but might not be much use  :lol:

(http://www.muckytruckin.co.uk/pages/gallery/06-05-07/briercliffe/large/Briercliffe%2006-05-07%20026.jpg)
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Post by: Xtremeteam on July 08, 2007, 21:41:01
Quote from: "diggerdog36"
Quote from: "danielh89"
looks like you are doing a nice job on the conversion :D

can you tell me if defenders with 200tdi's factory fitted had intercoolers?

Thats what the 'I' stands for in the name TDi, intercooler!!!

not quite,
could also be argued it stands for injection as the TDi was landrovers first Turbo  Direct injection engine as the TD & NA were both indirect injection engines
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Post by: Mutz on July 08, 2007, 21:49:37
Thought all diesels are classed as injection, and "i" or "I" is intercooler.
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Post by: landraver on July 09, 2007, 00:45:23
Quote from: "Mutz"
Thought all diesels are classed as injection, and "i" or "I" is intercooler.



Yup
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Post by: TDi90 on July 09, 2007, 10:17:22
hence TDi90  8)
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Post by: muddysteve on July 09, 2007, 11:25:40
"Di" - direct injection

i've had other motors with turbo diesels and intercoolers but all the indirect injection have been TD's or Turbo Diesel's and all the direct injections have been tdi's
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Post by: Range Rover Blues on July 15, 2007, 02:10:28
He's right, Di is used for direct injection, it's one of the ways of making oil burners drive more like real cars ie 'high speed' engines.  Di engines don't have the restiction inherant in indirect injection at higher speed namely the throttling effect of the pre-combusion chamber inlet.

The downside is slightly higher fuel consumption and the rattly noise we all know and love, because the combustion is happening in the top face of the piston which is effectively loose in the bore, rather than inside the pre-combusion chamber like on a Recardo head for example.
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Post by: Mutz on July 15, 2007, 23:29:33
So what we are effectivley owning then is not 200/300TDI but a 200/300TDIi :?
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Post by: Lee_D on July 16, 2007, 01:12:34
i indeed  :)  I've learn't summat new there.
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Post by: markyb on July 16, 2007, 21:46:07
first  pics , isnt that  300 not a 200 with that bit on the side,

:-)
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Post by: Xtremeteam on July 16, 2007, 21:49:37
Quote from: "markyb"
first  pics , isnt that  300 not a 200 with that bit on the side,

:-)


its a 200 discovery engine
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Post by: MuddyMachine on July 16, 2007, 22:01:30
Yeah sorry its a 200 disco engine and a 300 bulkhead
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Post by: markyb on July 18, 2007, 08:22:14
got ya learn something new everyday
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Post by: clbarclay on July 18, 2007, 09:34:21
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
The downside is slightly higher fuel consumption and the rattly noise we all know and love, because the combustion is happening in the top face of the piston which is effectively loose in the bore, rather than inside the pre-combusion chamber like on a Recardo head for example.


May have got it wrong (been a few years since it mattered), but if memory serves, direct injection engines typical have a lower specific fuel consumption (more power for less fuel) making them either more powerful or more economical, however the down side was they were worse on emissions compared to indirect injection. Also due to there smoother running indirect injection is more suitable to higher rpm engines.


One big advantage of indirect injection is when you remove the head with the injectors still in it, the tips of the injectors are protected inside the combustion chambers, where as with some direct injection heads the tips of the injectors stick down below the bottom of the cylider head so if you take it off the block and just place it down on a bench the same way up you will flatten the tips, wrecking the injectors.
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