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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Ollie on July 17, 2007, 10:54:14

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: Ollie on July 17, 2007, 10:54:14

Now that duty has been removed from veg oil if usage is under 2,500lt/yr, I'm seriously considering a veg oil conversion :D
http://www.smartveg.com/news/hmrc_duty_free.php

Has anyone done one themselves/employed a company to do it?
How do they run, is it worth it :idea:  :?: :?:  :idea:

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: diggerdog36 on July 17, 2007, 13:15:54

A guy that came to pick some wheels up was running Veg Oil, he had done no mods at all to his engine, he was told if your 90 has a Bosch fuel filter and pump it will run all day long with a little white sprit!!

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: Range Rover Blues on July 17, 2007, 19:43:36

Run this by me again, I can use SVO as a fuel without having to worry about fuel duty :(biggrin):

You sure :(kerching):

And I add a little white spirit (please tell me there is no fuel duty on that).

Off to the wholesalers then.

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: tonycougar on July 17, 2007, 23:56:11

I've just read the info in the link posted at the beginning. It says in there that Producers don't have to pay tax on it. (Thats the people making biofuel) doesn't say anything about Joe public using veg oil.

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: danielh89 on July 18, 2007, 00:32:15

shurley when you or i add a dash of white spirit you or i become a producer?

 :D

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: Ollie on July 18, 2007, 08:13:37

Quote from: "tonycougar"

I've just read the info in the link posted at the beginning. It says in there that Producers don't have to pay tax on it. (Thats the people making biofuel) doesn't say anything about Joe public using veg oil.

I watched and was informed of this change in the program Working Lunch, it was quite clear, personal use up to 2,500 ltrs is duty free. Those who produce and sell on are still liable to some form of tax.

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: extreme90 on July 18, 2007, 18:13:39

its legal to produce your own bio as long as you do not exceed 2.5t or 2500l its both the same
we had a metric ton (1000l) deliverd to my works and he told us then that we are allowed to produce 2500l for our own personal use and its duty free and totaly legal
do a search for alisonracing, thats the guy
dan

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: Tony F on July 18, 2007, 23:36:04

It's certainly true, details HERE (http://www.24dash.com/environment/22702.htm):

If you mix veggie oil and diesel (even in the tank of your vehicle) you are "producing" bio diesel so yes it is available to Joe public. As far as I can discover there is no requirement to register as a producer but it would be wise to keep all diesel and oil receipts and a log of your mileage in case HMR&C come calling.

THESE (http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContent&id=HMCE_PROD1_026553&propertyType=document) are the proposals in full from the HMR&C website

Why did I buy a V8?

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: tonycougar on July 18, 2007, 23:49:04

So looks like I might be considering going green.
Still a bit worried about long term damage mind.

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: Range Rover Blues on July 20, 2007, 00:18:16

Quote from: "Tony F"

Why did I buy a V8?

You know the reason why.....




....every time you start it up :D

....every time your first away from the lights :D  :D

....you know the reason why

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: mudplugger01 on July 21, 2007, 11:31:06

well i run a espace on 100 % veggie oil.
my 110 is 100% veggie oil in the summer (lol)
my 90  is 75% oil all year buts smokes a bit on idle .


this is all from supermarkets  srtaight off the shelf and straight in ..
these are bosch pumped engines though and not electronic controlled.

doing this oil for over a year ..no oil related probs ........

and of course a better carbon footprint !!!!

  hope this of use

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: Ollie on July 23, 2007, 18:25:42

Quote from: "mudplugger01"

well i run a espace on 100 % veggie oil.
my 110 is 100% veggie oil in the summer (lol)
my 90  is 75% oil all year buts smokes a bit on idle .


this is all from supermarkets  srtaight off the shelf and straight in ..
these are bosch pumped engines though and not electronic controlled.

doing this oil for over a year ..no oil related probs ........

and of course a better carbon footprint !!!!

  hope this of use

It is, many thanks.
Just trying to convience the Wife to let me switch :?

Ollie

Title: Hurrah, is it time to switch
Post by: tonycougar on July 23, 2007, 23:41:25

Quote from: "mudplugger01"

well i run a espace on 100 % veggie oil.
my 110 is 100% veggie oil in the summer (lol)
my 90  is 75% oil all year buts smokes a bit on idle .


this is all from supermarkets  srtaight off the shelf and straight in ..
these are bosch pumped engines though and not electronic controlled.

doing this oil for over a year ..no oil related probs ........

and of course a better carbon footprint !!!!

  hope this of use

It is slightly reassuring however I was thinking more of longer term damage.