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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: JPJ on July 29, 2007, 20:48:10
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My Disco was one of the ones with the only set of indicators in the bumper, the rear quarter lights contained only Brake, Reverse and Fog.
I bought some of the other sort with the indicators in and swapped them over removing the lights from the bumper altogether and then painting out the indicator and tail light lenses.
Someone suggested that it will now not pass the MOT but I can't see why as it still has only one indicator set and one tail light set as before, but in a different place.
Anybody got any actual evidence of doing this and still passing the MOT?
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If you wire the lights up so you have all the neccessary lights, indicators, side and brake lights along with rear fogs, and reversing lights (not needed for mot though) it will be legal, just a case of adjusting the plugs in the light cluster socket to match up to the correct uses
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If you wire the lights up so you have all the neccessary lights, indicators, side and brake lights along with rear fogs, and reversing lights (not needed for mot though) it will be legal, just a case of adjusting the plugs in the light cluster socket to match up to the correct uses
This bit I have already done, quite easy suprisingly. Yeah that's what I thought just so long as it has all of the necessary lights then they can't complain.
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I think the reason for LR putting the tail and indicators in the bumper was to do with a change to the regulations regarding side opening rear doors.
If you open your rear door then the spare wheel obscures the tail lights and indicators on the drivers side. So, for safety reasons, the law was changed and they put them in the bumper. This was so that, if broken down with the rear door open while on the motorway, other drivers can still see you're a car and don't think you're a bike parked on the near side of the hard shoulder.
If you get a switched on MOT man then he may well fail it on not having the rear lights fitted that are required by law on that age of vehicle.
You could reinstall the bumper lights and have both sets working. This is fine for the MOT and is what LR did in around 1996/97. :wink:
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I think the reason for LR putting the tail and indicators in the bumper was to do with a change to the regulations regarding side opening rear doors.
If you open your rear door then the spare wheel obscures the tail lights and indicators on the drivers side. So, for safety reasons, the law was changed and they put them in the bumper. This was so that, if broken down with the rear door open while on the motorway, other drivers can still see you're a car and don't think you're a bike parked on the near side of the hard shoulder.
If you get a switched on MOT man then he may well fail it on not having the rear lights fitted that are required by law on that age of vehicle.
You could reinstall the bumper lights and have both sets working. This is fine for the MOT and is what LR did in around 1996/97. :wink:
You should have a red curtesy light on the door that comes on when open, this then give you a red light rearwards when the door is open
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Got a reflector but no curtesy light on mine.
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I'll have to look now myself, unless I'm thinking of the drivers door :?
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You could reinstall the bumper lights and have both sets working.
As I only had one set in the first place I don't think this will work as the ECU will not be programmed to do this, unless of course I want my trailer light to come on every time!
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You could get round that by wiring the others in from a fresh feed and relay tap into the feed to the ones that are working
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I didn't have a problem with the tail lights on both my 95 300 series Discos. All I did was splice into the wire to the bumper and wired them into the plug for the cluster, then I cut out the space for the bulb holder in the lights above the reversing lights. Now I have 4 tail lights on both vehicles.
Not tried it with indicators though. :wink:
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Mine only had the bumper indicators/tail-lights when I bought it.
Therefore I acquired a pair of earlier body-clusters.
Luckily my loom was already compliant at the body cluster multi-pins plugs (checked with multi-meter), so the clusters were fitted in an instant :D
(http://thumb12.webshots.net/t/14/15/9/7/62/281490762IZLUWb_th.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1281490762047309372IZLUWb)
With only a change to the indicator relay & an uprated fuse*
The new relay was required to cope with the additional load of another 21watt indicator bulb & equally importantly activate the 'trailer tell-tale' (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2295659390047309372eviiSL) on the dash.
The safety advantage of having 2 lights to each side was the main reason I did it.
If one bulb blew, I still had one light per side, and in case of emergency 4 indicators flashing in unison was a great visual aid.
In fact I thought it was such a good feature I recreated it on the Discoverys replacement, with 'NAS' sized lamps.
The upper pair function as tail/stop, the lower pair as tail/fog
(http://thumb12.webshots.net/t/57/557/9/46/15/2742946150047309372mrQKBa_th.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2742946150047309372mrQKBa)
*The trailer (of the time) & my lighting-board had 2 x indicators to each sie & kept blowing a 5amp fuse, with a 10 amp problems ceased