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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: Steven on September 30, 2007, 20:13:16
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Hi all,
I heard in on a conversation, a Land Rover specialist said to a customer that he doesn't recomend this mod, but I didn't here why?! Would any of you lot know what this could be by any chance? :?
Its just that we would like this mod done...
Thanks in advance,
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Was talking to Devon 4x4 about the very same today, so Tim and Jake are the people to ask. I like the idea personally and I'm going to be soaking the rear pipe on the TD5 in brine to get it to rust more quickly...
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Was talking to Devon 4x4 about the very same today, so Tim and Jake are the people to ask. I like the idea personally and I'm going to be soaking the rear pipe on the TD5 in brine to get it to rust more quickly...
Might show up on your NANOCOM too :lol:
Only reasons I can think of is:
1. Non standard item not easily replaced.
2. Main dealers will use it to try & wriggle out of any warranty.
I was at Devon 4x4 a couple of weeks ago & there disco looks nice with it's side exit exhaust....the external finisher is the business too 8)
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Oh, one thing they DID say is that on the Disco, the exhaust moves a LOT through heat expansion. So if you have the exhaust attached to the panel itself, then you'll stretch the panel as soon as the exhaust heats up.
D44 use an elongated circle (ie an ellipse) around the hole in the panel now, so as the exhaust pipe starts to wander, it has somewhere to go without wrecking the panel.
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Ok thank you all!
D44 use an elongated circle (ie an ellipse) around the hole in the panel now, so as the exhaust pipe starts to wander, it has somewhere to go without wrecking the panel.
This is what we was thinking of sticking on anyway 8)
Thanks again.
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Oh, one thing they DID say is that on the Disco, the exhaust moves a LOT through heat expansion. So if you have the exhaust attached to the panel itself, then you'll stretch the panel as soon as the exhaust heats up.
D44 use an elongated circle (ie an ellipse) around the hole in the panel now, so as the exhaust pipe starts to wander, it has somewhere to go without wrecking the panel.
That'll explain why mine now batters irritatingly against the side of the hole when it started in the middle! :x :oops: :lol:
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And that will be why i used flexi pipe when i did mine so the end against the panel don't move :wink:
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i have decided against one as i often end up leaning to one side in v-deep ruts or trench style holes. at the moment the exhaust tail only get stuck in mud when i back in to things, and i fear that it will be a lot more of a problem if it is on the side.
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The D44 one ends up flush with the quarter panel, so unless you actually ding the panel it should be OK?
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had one for about 2 yrs now, no difference in performance...mine improves it tbh!
ive bent those panels and for people who know me my truck is taller with more panel removed than most, so i wouldnt worry...rear exit i did flatten on a couple of occasions.
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hay all
just a quick Q for ya,
my dad is thinking of doing this to his but not sure what its like in deep water,
is there any prob and where do you think would be the best place,
o its a 200tdi disco,,,,,,,,sorry to high jack the thread, :oops: :oops: :oops:
thanks all,
mark
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not sure what its like in deep water,
No different from the normal exhaust. The main benefit is that you don't clonk the exhaust on departure angle / when reversing into a rock. Mine's been bashed a few times. Next time I'm feeling like buying something I'll be getting one. Oh, plus it does look quite neat :)
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on a 3.5l v8i with a cat on a disco u will lose mpg with only a main box on. had one for a while got 22mpg compared to 30 mpg on lpg . underload the engine has to work harder which will increase revs by 250 rpm due to a lose in exhuast pressure. my engine is a low compression dont know if that makes a difference compared to a high compression engine.
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I have the Devon side exit exhaust with a four inch finisher through Devon's 120mm finishing ring. Sounds the dogs and looks good. Measure carefully before cutting and you shouldn't have any problems with knocking.
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thanks for that guys,hes off to pick the bits up 2mo :D
carnt wait to see,hear what its like 8) :lol:
mark
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Here's mine on a bit of 54mm flexi pipe.
The poky out bit is fixed to the rear wheel arch.
No problems so far.
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/7fa809e3f62a8d03774badfc5f9ef5f2.jpg)
wizard
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a Land Rover specialist said to a customer that he doesn't recomend this mod, but I didn't here why?! Would any of you lot know what this could be by any chance?
Dealers will probably dislike the side exit because there is a chance that water could go into the system (being as side exhausts usually angle upwards, therefor water cant get out) but, having ran a side exit for a few years and see them on so many trucks these days i personally think that there doesn't seem to be a problem, as long as engine is running the back pressure will hold the water at bay :wink:
Oh, one thing they DID say is that on the Disco, the exhaust moves a LOT through heat expansion. So if you have the exhaust attached to the panel itself, then you'll stretch the panel as soon as the exhaust heats up.
D44 use an elongated circle (ie an ellipse) around the hole in the panel now, so as the exhaust pipe starts to wander, it has somewhere to go without wrecking the panel.
The exhaust system on our Discovery 2 is a full stainless performance system which we found moves approx 1" towards the rear of the vehicle when it gets to full running temperature.
This is because of the length of the system.
Our 90 doesn't seem to suffer with this, which is good :wink:
So, as David has said, we came up with an oval exhaust ring to complement our D2 exhast system.
After being in the car for 10 hours over the last weekend i can safely say that it now doesn't hit the body anymore
:D
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One thing I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned is liability.
An exhaust pointing straight out from the side of the vehicle on the kerb side without a downward deflector is actually illegal.
All it takes is one complaint from a pedestrian, and all sorts of problems arise. (Believe one who has experienced it). Fifty quid fine, and had to get a new test done with a downward faceing pipe.
Stood at lights, on hill. Lights go green, bit of gas to pull away, some lass waiting to cross road gets a blast up he kilt, and takes number.
It's not worth the agro.
Pete.
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A side exit exhaust is not an MOT failure and as such is fully legal mine has passed 2 MOT's and the scrutiny of the local traffic police since it was fitted by Pipecraft,
John
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i was a bit bothered about the pedestrian bit, some times you wouldnt be able to help pulling away a little hard as you say, not so bad up someones skirt but iff it was a little kid getting a face full ?. i know i wouldnt be amused iff it were my kids. do really fancy doing a side exit on mine but its only this that puts me off. another trim finisher iff you have one is one of those alloy tax disc holders ,the front bit. alan.....
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steve if u had a design in mind i could aid u were to put what where or more poss.
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Just reilsed, took measurments down from D44 site of there ring surround and it'll have to be fittednquite some forward than I expected, if this is wouldn't the fumes etc mark the paintwork if you know what I mean.
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wouldn't the fumes etc mark the paintwork if you know what I mean.
We dont have any problems with exhaust marks
But, then again, i do keep the cars nice and clean :wink:
8)
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Oven cleaner does a good job of removing exhaust soot without damaging paintwork.
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So does normal car polish
8)
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Yes, but mother/SWMBO (delete as required) don't normally buy car polish.
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I'm sorry I thought I was on the Mud Club site, but all this talk of polish, oven cleaner, etc, makes me think I must be in the wrong place!
My Disco still has the mud on it from the last Bank Holiday weekend, and Shed's nether regions are currently being excavated by Time Team!
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The trouble is I suffer from friends (who needs enemies) that delite in writing 'comments' in the mud which marks the paint and doesn't just wash off.
This is the only polite example of that happens when I leave a dirty RRC about.
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Saw a 110 about a year ago with a side exit exhaust which had a finisher of some description on it that was a disk that fitted flush with the wing, then a slight elipse of pipe that protruded.....I suspect that it was from a marine chandlers having seen something similar on a coastal cruiser type thing.
How much noise is a 200tdi Disco likely to make with a side exhaust- anyone got any experience of this conversion?
Chris
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Have you seen this thread? (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=50304) May have some other useful stuff in it.
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wouldn't the fumes etc mark the paintwork if you know what I mean.
We dont have any problems with exhaust marks
But, then again, i do keep the cars nice and clean :wink:
8)
Jake
I thought Simon was the chief washer boy & hoovering king :twisted: