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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Ridgeback on October 09, 2007, 18:59:49

Title: Locking Diff
Post by: Ridgeback on October 09, 2007, 18:59:49
I am thinking about getting an air locking rear diff.
Not sure if its worth the money or if i am better spending the cash on some Extreme tyres and a winch. I have Good year MT's on it now.

What diff is the best to go for the, ARB one
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: davidlandy on October 09, 2007, 19:47:55
hi m8

i would start with the extreme tyres first , then a winch,  then the locker
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: suggs on October 09, 2007, 19:52:13
yeah i agree, fit the tyres first..
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: extreme90 on October 09, 2007, 20:30:16
id go
winch
tyres
lockers

cos when your stuck with " extreme tyre" i,e a agressive pattern ..simex..grizzly... you blinning stuck properly then  :shock:
so what goods the tyres when your stuck and cant get out

winch 1st id say

dan
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: davidlandy on October 09, 2007, 21:06:27
Good comments, but I would still opt for the tyres first - experience tells me this. Not every situation where xtreme tyres help is potentially a stuck situation that would need a winch
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: extreme90 on October 09, 2007, 21:15:53
i see what your saying dave, but i still say winch 1st  :tongue:  :tongue:
itll get you further than tyres will
dan
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: GREENI on October 09, 2007, 21:59:39
You are forgetting the strengthened halfshafts  :roll:
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: GREENI on October 09, 2007, 22:00:25
You are forgetting the strengthened halfshafts  :roll:
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: GREENI on October 09, 2007, 22:02:07
ooops
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: extreme90 on October 09, 2007, 22:04:17
double post ?
been on the pop steve  :tongue:
id go winch 1st...again  :lol:
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: davidlandy on October 09, 2007, 22:05:39
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
i see what your saying dave, but i still say winch 1st  :tongue:  :tongue:
itll get you further than tyres will
dan


very true!
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: GREENI on October 09, 2007, 22:07:51
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
double post ?
been on the pop steve  :tongue:
id go winch 1st...again  :lol:


I've just done 4 hours mountain biking, in the cold wet mud....
Now i'm starting on the pop !!!!
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: extreme90 on October 09, 2007, 22:09:20
Quote from: "GREENI"
Quote from: "TheBlueySilverThing"
double post ?
been on the pop steve  :tongue:
id go winch 1st...again  :lol:


I've just done 4 hours mountain biking, in the cold wet mud....
Now i'm starting on the pop !!!!


ahh, so the legs still think there going then your your counterbalancing  :lol:
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: GREENI on October 09, 2007, 22:20:53
My legs.....

I'LL SHUT UP>>>>

OFF TOPIC>>>>>MUCH !!! :lol:
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: L90OOK on October 09, 2007, 22:35:44
I'd go winch, tyres, lockers.  Learn to drive properly with non extreme tyres first.  I have seen people go further on MT than Simex just because they knew what they were doing. :roll:
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: Ridgeback on October 10, 2007, 00:12:54
So i think it looks like new rubber first then a winch,
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: extreme90 on October 10, 2007, 22:28:13
Quote from: "Ridgeback"
So i think it looks like new rubber first then a winch,


i really would go for the other way
winch 1st
tyres second

you'll have alot more fun with muds than with simex type tyres
they take the fun out of it IMO
dan
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: Range Rover Blues on October 11, 2007, 18:48:21
I'd go tyres first, you'll noty get stuck so often.

Next IIRC I got the lockers

Bought a winch last, used it 3 times, 2 of which were shifting a car onto the trailer :roll:

Buy tyres, buy a locker, get a winch kit for your Hi-Lift :wink:
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: littlepow on October 11, 2007, 21:37:07
I'd go winch first, less likely to cause damage to your vehicle. Also by learning to drive on MT's further you will get better ground reading skills.

You will also put less stress on your drive system.

Then fit a locker, the less grippy tyres will be more forgiving, while you learn to use it properly and alter your driving style to compensate for the change in traction available.
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: Ridgeback on October 12, 2007, 00:23:36
I was thinking about what all the extra grip and traction might do.

Think its going to be usefull to get a winch.
Im not sure about fitting all the uprated drive shafts because i want that part to go befor i smash up gearboxs, but i am keen on the locker.

I have seen loads of defenders get pulled out of a mud hole on a pay and play day, then someone with lockers came along and made it look easy.
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: chuggaman on October 12, 2007, 08:04:21
Quote from: "Ridgeback"
then someone with lockers came along and made it look easy.



tyres....locker.....let someone else winch you out. :wink:

my winch was mostly used for recovering other people.


mike
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: littlepow on October 12, 2007, 19:20:24
Quote from: "chuggaman"


tyres....locker.....let someone else winch you out. :wink:

my winch was mostly used for recovering other people.


mike


That only works if everyone else doesn't have the same idea, or if a vehicle is equiped witht a winch. That they are getting annoyed having to recover everyone else and just want to play themselves.

You should always have the means to self recover. The more traction you have, the worse your point of failure will be. This will make it harder to recover the vehicle.
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: clbarclay on October 12, 2007, 22:57:32
I have no trouble finding a winch attached to self proplled ground anchor when I need one (which is not very often), there has got to be getting on for of a dozen 8274s at college :shock: and multiple trucks with 2 winchs on them, poor students I tell you.
Title: Locking Diff
Post by: Ridgeback on October 12, 2007, 23:25:33
I do want to be able to get myself out when stuck and also want both the lockers and winch plus any other bits that will make a big difference to not getting stuck. Its just i can only do one thing at a time ( it not easy telling the other half how much ££££££££££ i have spent on something im going to cover in mud and water)

I want to fit stuff that helps not get stuck but do agree that you should be able to get your self out if needed.
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