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Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 16, 2007, 22:00:01
SWMBO is up for a new 'works van' soon.

Sadly Skoda still isn't on 'the list' yet, as far as I know :?


So when we took her Mondeo in for its 75,000mile service last week we looked at the new Mondeo.

It looks quite nice, a bit longer & wider, same seats which are an important factor with all her travelling.

She's quite taken with it & seems to fancy one, I'm trying to persuade her to go for an estate instead of the 5-door this time.


However
I quite like the look of the Volvo V50.
Okay I know it's a smaller vehicle (being essentially Focus sized), but I think it looks quite neat & tidy.
It's big enough & (presumably) comfortable, as the company seems to major on driver comfort.
My old 740 estate was marvellous in that respect & I've never heard a Traffic Officer complain about their Volvos
'Ditto' the Paramedics who have a couple as 'Fast Response Cars'


So the big question is
Does anyone have a V50 & can comment on it in anyway at all. Please


'new' Mondeo (http://www.ford.co.uk/ie/allnewmondeo/-/-/-/-/-/-)
V50 (http://www.volvocars.co.uk/models/v50/)
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: beast5680 on October 16, 2007, 22:06:37
dont ford own volvo? :?  so its the same thing :D
i prefer the look of the mondeo to be honest
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Bishops Finger on October 16, 2007, 22:24:11
Ford own Volvo..

Whilst can't comment on newer Volvo's comfort level, Mondys seem over the years to have quietly excelled at setting a good standard (especially since the demise of the much underrated Grenade/Scorpio range)

Owned a Mondy V6 and a Grenade in the past and based on history a Mondy gets a vote
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: thermidorthelobster on October 16, 2007, 22:54:42
I had a V70 (current shape) a few years back and really liked it, but the Jatco auto box gave me a few problems.
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Guardian. on October 16, 2007, 23:17:27
only ever hired the volvo in spain about a month ago(saloon), definately wouldnt buy one, a week of driving it was more than enough, but, for a td was extremely fast.
 the new mondeo for a car is a cracking bit of kit now. got the looks and the trim to match, should think im gona have to change her indoors one again! :(
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: martha focker on October 16, 2007, 23:34:44
i'v heard from somebody that they are on the exact same chassie, so ride shold be about the same :wink:  erm have i just put a spanner in the works, if im wrong few :lol:  :shock:
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Range Rover Blues on October 17, 2007, 01:48:38
Neither car will be a dissapointment but TBH I'd look at the tax implications and the cost out of your pocket.  If there's nowt between them then get the mondo, it's bigger and annonymouos, so you can leave it places.
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: muddydisco on October 17, 2007, 07:31:54
Go for a v70 loads of  room great on fuel. Dads got a v70 done 90k never had a problem. If you go for the ford it will never be out of the garage having alot of problems with the new model.
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Boggert on October 17, 2007, 10:32:54
I had a duel fuel Volvo S40 and loved it, It drove well was comfy and strong, so the V50 should be better.

Ford are also good, but all the fords I have used at work are a bag of nails. The only one I have ever liked was my old risty diesel fiesta. I don't know what the new mondeo is like, I suspect it good, but I would be different and go for the Volvo.
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: bilge rat on October 17, 2007, 12:05:24
dont know much about the  volvos,  and the new mondeo does look nice, i know the focus has had loads of good reports so iff the mondeo has similar chassis design as the focus think i'd go for that. alan.....
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: V8MoneyPit on October 17, 2007, 13:33:21
The other consideration is depreciation. I would hazard a guess that the Volvo will have better residuals than the Ford.
Title: Re: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Niel on October 17, 2007, 14:04:19
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"



However
I quite like the look of the Volvo V50.
Okay I know it's a smaller vehicle (being essentially Focus sized), but I think it looks quite neat & tidy.
It's big enough & (presumably) comfortable, as the company seems to major on driver comfort.
My old 740 estate was marvellous in that respect & I've never heard a Traffic Officer complain about their Volvos
'Ditto' the Paramedics who have a couple as 'Fast Response Cars'


So the big question is
Does anyone have a V50 & can comment on it in anyway at all. Please


Gearbox/diff. failures are an issue with Volvo's front wheel drives according to a fellow ham who got through several, both manual and auto....
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: stuntman on October 17, 2007, 14:15:29
Hello there, just to say Volvo's were my passion until a year ago, (I've owned most models, classic and modern) The new V50 is great car, but my works one has had 2 gearbox's 1 ecu, a new cd stacker unit, 2 new tyres due to wheel mis-alignement from the factory!, a new volvo badge from the back as it fell off, and a couple of minor interior trim issues.
The dealership were great about fixing things and I had no porblems with them, I know this seems all doom and gloom but the after sales care was great ... can anyone say the same about ford?

Andi K
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: muddyjames on October 17, 2007, 16:21:15
Am I right in thinking the transit engine is in the mondy too, just a little tweeked here and there? If so the Transit is a fab van to drive with regards to engine power etc and mpg for it's size.

Also the Caravan Club have voted the Mondy as tow car of the year 2008.

It would be Mondy all the way for me.
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 17, 2007, 17:19:31
Quote from: "beast5680"
dont ford own volvo? :?  so its the same thing :D
i prefer the look of the mondeo to be honest


Yes, they do. Alongside Land Rover, Mazda (partly), Lincoln, Aston-Martin (until Dave Richards bought it with his backers)
The Mondeo is nice, but the V50 is striking too


Quote from: "martha focker"
i'v heard from somebody that they are on the exact same chassie, so ride shold be about the same :wink:

The V50 is essentially a Focus under the skin (same 'platform')


Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
Neither car will be a dissapointment but TBH I'd look at the tax implications and the cost out of your pocket.
 If there's nowt between them then get the mondo, it's bigger and annonymouos, so you can leave it places.


Andy, the tax will be the deciding factor, if it's on the 'approved list' (I don't see why not, shecould have had a Mazda 6 last time, like one of her collegues)
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 18, 2007, 11:02:40
Saw one of the 'Fast Response' (Paramedic) V50's this morning.
Now I know who drives it I'll ask a few questions when I see her
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: L90OOK on October 18, 2007, 11:18:07
I quite like the new mondeo & would go for one over a volvo.
However I do like  the Passats more than both the mondeo or V50  8)
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: auf_wiedersehen_pet on October 18, 2007, 21:24:04
Quote from: "muddydisco"
Go for a v70 loads of  room great on fuel. Dads got a v70 done 90k never had a problem. If you go for the ford it will never be out of the garage having alot of problems with the new model.


We have a V70 SE Turbo. What a fantastic motor.

When I was searching for it in summer 06 - it was clear to see that they can do massive mileages. Ours is a low miler 90K, most were 180K-220K.

Volvo everytime!!!
 :D  :D  :D
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 18, 2007, 22:47:12
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Saw one of the 'Fast Response' (Paramedic) V50's this morning.
Now I know who drives it I'll ask a few questions when I see her


I also saw an unmarked (silver) Traffic Police V5 this afternoon

That was a T5 varient
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: CaptainColourful on October 20, 2007, 01:43:26
Quote from: "V8MoneyPit"
The other consideration is depreciation. I would hazard a guess that the Volvo will have better residuals than the Ford.


Surely residuals don't really matter on a company car, except maybe if they sell it off at the end of the lease term, then poor residuals work in your favour if they offer it for sale !

Tax implications are the only "cost" that most people will take into account.

The new Mondy got very favourable reviews on Top Gear. The estate version would definately be my choice.

 
It all depends which versions of each car are on her list... What else is on it ?
Title: Volvo verses Ford
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 20, 2007, 15:01:33
Quote from: "CaptainColourful"
Surely residuals don't really matter on a company car, except maybe if they sell it off at the end of the lease term, then poor residuals work in your favour if they offer it for sale !

I can state that her present Mondeo (a Ghia TDCi) was invoiced at less than £12,000 to the lease company :shock:

 
Quote from: "CaptainColourful"
It all depends which versions of each car are on her list... What else is on it ?


Not sure, we haven't seen it yet.

Last night though she told me she may be getting a pay-rise, promotion & may also push for a jump to a higher car bracket.

So............. perhaps a new Jaguar XF?????
(a Mondeo in disguise, if you look carefully)
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