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Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: muddydisco on October 20, 2007, 19:37:32
Move in 12 days hopefully.

Thinking of building a brick garage. Thought about building a wooden one but it would catch fire knowing me.
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: Boggert on October 20, 2007, 19:39:38
Yep you will need planning for a brick one, but not for a wooden one if its a shed sype.
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: hairyasswelder on October 20, 2007, 19:43:29
depends on how far from house, how many square feet it covers etc.
All info was on council website and just to confirm I went to council and it was confirmed in writing (permission not required) when I told them what I proposed to build which was a 24 x 12 block built workshop/garage

Steve
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: lee celtic on October 20, 2007, 19:47:43
I think there is a distance from the house  that means you only need a building notice but if you ring the local planning office they will let you know but do ask about it as many planning people prefer them as there is less red tape  , The building notice means you can do your own drawings and it dosn't have to go to the council I built my garage and kitchen extention on a building notice and did the drawings on the kitchen table with a green felt tip :D  :D  :D still need regs though.
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: muddydisco on October 20, 2007, 19:51:29
Quote from: "hairyasswelder"
depends on how far from house, how many square feet it covers etc.
All info was on council website and just to confirm I went to council and it was confirmed in writing (permission not required) when I told them what I proposed to build which was a 24 x 12 block built workshop/garage

Steve


Whats the height off yours, I wanted to be able to get a lifted disco/90
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: hairyasswelder on October 20, 2007, 20:07:51
Quote from: "muddydisco"
Quote from: "hairyasswelder"
depends on how far from house, how many square feet it covers etc.
All info was on council website and just to confirm I went to council and it was confirmed in writing (permission not required) when I told them what I proposed to build which was a 24 x 12 block built workshop/garage

Steve


Whats the height off yours, I wanted to be able to get a lifted disco/90


Never built it  :roll: but was proposed at 8 foot at highest point as any higher it comes under building regs.
Was offered (and bought) same size prefab that a local school had to keep their mini bus in.  It WILL get finished  :roll:
IIRC it was 30 feet from main house
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: DaveDavies on October 21, 2007, 01:13:55
Generally you have 70m3 permitted development (unless Nat Park, terrace, conservation area) which is the volume you can extend or build - always check with Planners - details are on the web but if you ever selling the house having a letter from the council saying it's permitted develpoment helps. If you want bigger than 70m3 or there has been earlier extensions then you will need a planning application.

Building regs is completly separate from planning. Again check with your council and get it in writing but if a garage is under 30m2 in area and not attached to the house or within 1m of a boundary then building regs are not required and you can build it how you want, brick, timber, steel. No Plans or application fees required.

Building Notice is an alternative process to 'full plans submission' where Buiding Regs are required but works are simple enough that architects plans aren't required - plans aren't approved and you need to work closely with the Building Inspector to establish what he wants
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: The Smiths on October 21, 2007, 10:44:23
Generally if the outbuildings are 5m or more from the main residence then planning permission is not required.  You can also build on upto 50% of the curtliage of the property.  This does not affect your permitted development rights mentioned above.

Your best bet is to phone up the planning department and ask.  You can also normally download a form from your councils website that you can submit to see if planning permisssion is required (at no cost :) ).

With this route you also get a letter stating that planning permission is not required.  So if you come to sell the house you will not need to buy an insurance to cover the validity of planning :)
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: karlo on October 21, 2007, 11:04:29
Go to your local council and get a preliminary planning form, you fill this in takes about 7 days and they will tell you if you need to apply for planning and its also free to do.
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: DaveDavies on October 21, 2007, 23:07:44
Preliminary planning form can take up to 3 months in my area - 7 days is great. If I know something is permitted development I write to the council telling them so and the onus is on them to respond...

Forgot to meantion if the garage is more than 5m from the house - for those lucky enough to have plenty of land. Helpful guide can be found here:-

http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/144827
Title: When do you need planing permission
Post by: richo on October 22, 2007, 18:11:07
Just thought i would put my oar in on this one.
The other day i was having a chat with a mate who owns a conservatory company and he was saying that it's not always black and white as he has had hasle with planning over differant things in reguards to planning matters.
The rules can differ from case to case .He had one that had a foot path running with in a certain distance and it took twice as long to get planning pushed though.
I work in the building trade and we always seem to get stuck with planning or building control in some way most of the time if your straight with them they help you out but there are some planning officers that think there god and can be a real pain.
As with what some of you guys have already said on here,fill in the forms and be honest with the planners and they will soon tell you whats what.
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