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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: Ralph Hardwick on October 26, 2007, 21:17:22

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Ralph Hardwick on October 26, 2007, 21:17:22

Hi all

I'm running on dieseland just recently the car is taking forever to start.

It will turn over okay but just won't fire.  I have to churn it for several minutes before it goes.  Once running its fine with no problems.

Interesting thing is: my drive slopes a bit and if I park 'nose down' it only needs a few turns (still too many), if I park 'nose up' it takes forever.

I have bled the fuel filter and no air came out.

Any other ideas welcome.

Cheers

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Big Rich on October 26, 2007, 21:43:24

I'd start by looking under the boot floor threw the inspection hole and see if any of the pipes are corroded.

It could be a pin [ed - prod with a sharp implement] hole!

Rich

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Disco-Ron on October 26, 2007, 21:43:34

I'd say you have an air leak somewhere, letting the diesel seep back to the tank, hence you're having to effectively pump it back to the engine....

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Range Rover Blues on October 27, 2007, 00:36:47

If it wasn't for the slope thing I'd say glowplugs but yes it sounds like a fuel problem.

Title: slow starting
Post by: lurch_917 on October 27, 2007, 17:21:29

just a question when you bleed the systeam did you over tighten the bleed screw and partly strip the threads as this happend to me and it was air getting back in at the bleed screw a re tap and larger bolt done the job

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Ralph Hardwick on October 27, 2007, 18:36:46

Thanks for the tips guys.  

I am replacing the boot floor and fitting a veg kit soon so it looks like it'll be good opportunity check and replace the fuel lines.

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Evilgoat on October 27, 2007, 18:55:19

Check your lift pump.if you manually prime it with the ickle lever will it start ok?

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Disco Matt on November 11, 2007, 19:53:15

Check your fuel lift pump isn't broken - I had exactly the same symptoms on my 300 TDI after changing the fuel filter. The priming lever didn't seem to work, and as that was the only other thing I'd touched I suspected it might have something to do with the problem. A new fuel lift pump was about £20, took me an hour or two to fit and cured it instantly. The old one wasn't pumping at all - no signs of life from either the rod that the crank actuates or the priming lever. When I tested the new one before fitting it fired the protective cover from the outlet pipe across the room!

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Ralph Hardwick on November 11, 2007, 22:45:00

Thanks for the advice guys.  Yes I now think its the lift pump and I will be fitting anew one in he next few weeks.

Title: Sluggish starting
Post by: Tdi Mark on November 11, 2007, 23:16:46

check fuel water trap inside chassis next to offside rear wheel.metal pipes rot and allow air in.had same fault on my 200 tdi.