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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: MudRat on November 02, 2007, 23:15:42
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Public proper organised shows only, rather than chavs with explosives!
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i have answered no to that one.... we have our own little thing every year in the garden. the big local displayes are always full of yobs or louts. i wouldnt want to have to go to one of them every year :evil: :evil: :evil: :wink:
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Ban fireworks? That could become an issue that the Equality people get involved with. :roll: Diwali, Eid, Chinese New Year to name but a few.
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Yep they are dangerous and always were........ kids play with them and sometimes get hurt.... Thats life. Some Folks want to ban everthing.
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I voted no there are too many things getting banned in this country its a Britshish disease, if you don't agree with it should be banned.
We are supposed to be part of the EU, but this lot here put their own interpretation on rules and take things to the extreme.
Live and let live.
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it sucks for animal owners, however I feel as fireworks are used in a considerate manner (not by chavs or their parents) then all is well. but people launching fireworks etc before fireworks day does [throw it] me off, but if we were to ban everything, what would be left? a very boring group of people, who have nothing to do.
Al's two pence:
"Just because some people are [!Expletive Deleted!] and some people take thing to seriously doesn't mean we should let the few ruin it for the many. it's far easier to slap a chav."
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Yes yes yes :evil:
They used to be fun now they are weapons.
A firework is an explosive.
Fire balls that have the power to shoot hundreds of feet into the sky.
The power to blow a hand off, or a face.
A few £££ and your child can get hold of them.
There is only one answer.
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i have answered no to that one.... we have our own little thing every year in the garden. the big local displayes are always full of yobs or louts. i wouldnt want to have to go to one of them every year :evil: :evil: :evil: :wink:
Thats fine, a "little thing" ... a few whizz bangs flashes and oooooooohhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhs at home.
When it comes to "commercial" size chemical explosions on the streets and in the parks,set off by a lagged up chav it's a massive anti-social problem.
I would like to know how it is that fireworks shops appear by magic in every town for a few weeks,only to be left empty/derelict for the rest of the year.
How come that the "Standard Fireworks" company are advertising on local radio a BOGOF promotion where I can buy £170 quids worth for £40 ???? Just need to collect from the factory shop at Bradford or some such place. Shows what a profit there is in it eh ?
Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed massive organised fireworks displays in various places around the world ( July 4th in the states is something else !) but I hate the fact that any chav or his k**bhead parents (with more money than sense) can scare the wits out of me, my wife and my dog for what seems to be a season starting in October/November and going through till after the New Year.
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fireworks should be purchased with a licence in my view, keep a control on it
i much prefer watching a display where you pay to watch and get a good display rather than one or two in the local park set off by the undesirables
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we get the commercial proper bang fireworks from a wholesaler, and as mad as i am, with these treat them like our firearms ammunition as they are lethal, not only in the wrong little hands, but also if something goes wrong!
fireworks are like landrovers, can be faulty, but as we live in de sticks, and our yard allows us to stand a good long way from the source they are perfectly safe.
we had one last year that rather than go up god knows how high then explode, just exploded on the ground, twas a wicked bang though :twisted:
they should definately not be banned, but better policed, and def not be used in a public place, as even the tescos and morrisons jobbies will kill.
perhaps to buy you should have to register and get a certificate from a local council or something, and if caught with them without a cert beheaded or something, that should sort most the idiots out.
finished now.
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Voted NO
But Today (Sat 3rd) should be the first day they can be purchased for Bonfire Night.
I organise a big display for our Scout Group. All Parents and families are invited as are the Church family that sponsors the Group. We organise the fire and sell burgers etc and we ask that each family brings one large firework. These are collected at the start and a couple of adults light them about 50m away with protective gear etc. Display lasts about 30-40 minutes. We all have a great time and raise a couple of hundred quid for the Group at the same time.
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Up here on the island it's fine, very few fireworks get set off, but my parents live in Southampton and if I got to visit them any time between late September through to January then you can hear fireworks going off every night, sometimes up to 1am.
One night would be fine but having the things going off for months on end, at all times of the night, is just not on. :evil:
Another thing, people use this time of year to get rid of their out-of-date red distress flares. If you have any of these then don't fire them unless you are in distress as the Coastguard are required to investigate any reports of distress flares, which could involve launching Lifeboats, scrambling helicopters or sending Coastguard Rescue Teams out which is not only wasting then time of the Coastguard, but also costs the Tax Payer hundreds of thousands of pounds each year but is also illegal and if caught you will be charge as if you had made a false 999 call.
And don't think that just because you're not near the coast that it'll be alright because it's not. The Police and Mountain Rescue Teams have the same problems.
If you want to dispose of out-of-date flares then they can be returned to the place that you bought them from or your nearest Coastguard Station has limited storage for these.
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I like setting them off in the privacy of a suitable garden too, but I'm sick and tired of having to stay in with the dogs for a fortnight around this time of year. The damn things have been going off for a week already and when you get muppets like the women in JTF last night "which of these are the loudest" :roll:
And they were still going off at after 1 in the morning.
But the final straw was the one some little **** put inside a beer bottle and fired at my LSE last year :evil: If I ever caught him I'd give him a rocket he'd not forget.
Fireworks are explosives and quite frankly there are too many people who are not trustworth yenough to have them. Licenced operators only should have them.
Oh yeah, I'm sick of picking the empties up too and all those iron filing falling on my car.........
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I'm a miserable git and think you might as well just set fire to wads of five pound notes. They cause misery to pets and quite apart from the yobs there are plenty of idiotic adults each year who should know better but still manage to cause major injuries! So I'm with the ban! =;
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YOU MISERABLE GIT :lol: :lol:
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uv got to have fireworks, and if the yobs start, fire one at them, they soon run :lol:
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Better control and an older buying age would suffice. Banning it would only cause those who follow the rules (actual and unsaid) to do with out, as fireworks can easily be made at home, so the problem would still exist.
raise the age limit from 18 to 23 or something, and make suppliers have a supervisor from fair tradings or something. Also harsher sentences for those caught breaking the rules.
Don't let the 1 ruin it for the other 99
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I voted no, but i also think they should only be used for the dates when they are normally wanted. i.e. chinese new year, our new year and nov 5th, but should be illegal to use outside of these times.
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Most of people who buy fireworks nowadays could'nt tell you why we do it anyway.
A guy a work said "cuz of that guy forks bloke".And had no idear of the story.Moron and he's got a corsa with abig speaker in the back
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No, Dont ban them but as said in previous posts the age limit should be made much higher!
I also think there should be a much tighter control over who can sell them too!
Cheers
Mark
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yes ban them, and MAKE them instead hehehehe :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Having had the GSD petrified for the last 2 nights they should be banned unless it is a public display run by professionals well away from houses. If my dog took fright and bit someone because of a firework going off who is responsible, more to the point why should I have to pay the compo for something that is a result of someone elses actions.
Don't start on the "keep your pets indoors when fireworks are going off" because the pets still take fright in doors (and go balistic).
When you consider all the political rubbish about terorism in this country and you can (providing you are over 18) go out and buy what is basicly an explosive.
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Hmm seem to have got a smiley in my previous post rather than the number 8
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Hmm seem to have got a smiley in my previous post rather than the number 8
I've changed it to "disable smilies in this post".
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What happened to 'Standard Fireworks' and 'Astra Fireworks',they were expensive but it that helped control their use,it's the cheap chinese imports that are the problem,i have been to a display this evening and noticed the fireworks let off so much smoke you could hardly see some of them,i suspect it's low quality powder,shame.
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considering the current political climate [1] I'm shocked nobody is protesting about the environmental impact ...
Then again we don't seem to care about the environmental impact of blowing up large chunks of oil rich nations so perhaps I'm missing the point.. [2]
[1] no pun intended
[2] hehe, pollution really does start at home, and apparently, ends there too
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3 local pubs had bonfires/fireworks tonight.
At leat that shortens the time scale !
The local idiots who would not be able to buy fireworks visited my local and still caused probs because they were drunk, 16 yrs old and looking for trouble. No fireworks with them but if any had got too close to the bonfire they would have exploded themselves with the alcohol they had inside them ( wishful thinking ? )
The police ended up chucking a few in the back of two vans, " Ouch you're breaking my arm" as their mates videoed the proceedings on moblie phones.
A good family night ended up being spoiled by teenage alchoholics with gang warfare the only thing on their minds.
I would like to know who their parents are,and what they would do if they were aware of the probs their spawn is causing.
It seems to me that as long as whatever their kids do is away from home it doesn't matter.
This mamby pamby society we live in now does not allow proper discipline from parents.schools, local bobbies, relations or neighbours. Kids don't know where the line is now and even dare adults to risk prosecution by trying to instill any sort of social awareness/ responsibility into them from an early age.
I don't mean parents should be able to thrash kids, but once upon a time the mere threat of being slapped was enough to stop enough to ensure the lines were drawn out.
Respect and responsibility ought to be second nature by the time kids each secondary education.
If that means frightening the crap out of them until they are 12 years old, so be it.
This country would be a far better place for it.
Ooops ....... seem to have got on my soapbox again eh ? time for bed
ps
For Sale....
lightly used AK47 ... telescopic sight available as optional extra. My mum says I have to sell ........ swap for skunk, white lightening ( 2litres min ) , blinged saxo or WHY ...
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Ban fireworks? That could become an issue that the Equality people get involved with. :roll: Diwali, Eid, Chinese New Year to name but a few.
upset a few "pc" idiots .... worth banning 'em then just for that mate :roll: :twisted: :wink: :lol:
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Why don't we ban 4x4's, or motorcycles, or hangliders, or horse riding, or fishing - or a hundred other activities which might up-set a few nimby's. Perhaps its time to teach responsible use and or pursuit of such activities. After all these asbo kids are all someones sons or daughters. Lets get back to proper action/consequence/punishment mentoring so that kids grow up to accept responsibility for their actions and know there will be a real punishment if they step out of line.
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Now let me think ban fireworks.................
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-1291013,.html
Think that say's enough. :evil:
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i say lets ban boiled eggs, they can explode in the microwave, its a travesty they are still sold to the public.
and wellington boots as they can fill up with water and get your feet wet.
and what about nissan micras,lethal, they get stuck in my 4x4 mud tyre tread sometimes causing so much damage id have to buy a new tyre.
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ps.
while im sorting the country out, i think we should have chip and pin machines strapped to our heads charging us for the air we breath, and perhaps charge more per litre than petrol.
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Why don't we ban 4x4's, or motorcycles, or hangliders, or horse riding, or fishing - or a hundred other activities which might up-set a few nimby's. Perhaps its time to teach responsible use and or pursuit of such activities. After all these asbo kids are all someones sons or daughters. Lets get back to proper action/consequence/punishment mentoring so that kids grow up to accept responsibility for their actions and know there will be a real punishment if they step out of line.
Well said glaggs
you'll never stop the low rent chav from spoiling any knid of activity without the right kind of deterant or punishment for their actions. Why should the upstanding members of society always be the ones to suffer because of scum, banning things is the easy way out.
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still no takers for my AK47 ?
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Here's a daring thought - I was stood outside last night contemplating the world with a cuppa tea and realised how much the worldd has changed. Some time back, fireworks were largely pretty lights with a few pops, bangs and whizzes thrown in for heck and giggles. Domestic fireworks now seem to emphasise noise. Dirty great chunks of ordnance bought because we want the rocket with the biggest bang for our buck (literally)
I've had dogs and cats in the past, and trees full o' owls, all of which go beserk with the new generation fireworks. The owls never returned.
So how about we keep fireworks but put a noise limit on them (organised displays and invasions of small countires excepting)?
Mind you on Saterday night they were almost drowned out by the v8 stock-cars at the track 4 miles away! Sweeeeeeet! :twisted:
Just a thought
Cheers
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Eeyore