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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: marjan on November 18, 2007, 20:18:45

Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: marjan on November 18, 2007, 20:18:45
Here is a strange one for all you experts out there.  My 300TDi 90 drives just fine when under power at 50/60 mph but when I take my foot off the throttle it pulls to the right and then to the left when I put the juice back on again.

Wondered if it could just be the Greenway Anaconda tyres flexing as they are a pretty aggressive tread and a bit twitchy on the road.

Any thoughts ???.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: GREENI on November 18, 2007, 20:42:17
Bushes.....check 'em all.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: extreme90 on November 18, 2007, 21:04:01
rear trailing arm bush's
check both axle and chassis end,
but my bets on chassis end as mine eats um n does exactly what you say
and also you get rear steer  :evil:
it is however very fun to drive on road  8)
dan
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: muck_truck on November 18, 2007, 22:36:30
Mine does same as yours, dont think its bushes on mine as i replaced them all last year (inc bolts) and its only done about 3k since and it still does it.

i think on mine its the drive flange on the front right inc play in CV etc, there is a lot a play in it where all the others are nice and tight, drive flange so worn you can hear it click as i pull away/slow down.

i'll sort it out when it breaks  :roll:
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: extreme90 on November 18, 2007, 23:09:07
Quote from: "muck_truck"
Mine does same as yours, dont think its bushes on mine as i replaced them all last year (inc bolts) and its only done about 3k since and it still does it.

i think on mine its the drive flange on the front right inc play in CV etc, there is a lot a play in it where all the others are nice and tight, drive flange so worn you can hear it click as i pull away/slow down.

i'll sort it out when it breaks  :roll:


the rear axle wouldnt allow it to pull that way,
and its so fractional between the difference in the take up of drive from pass to drivers side that it wont make a difference

i have to fit new trailing arm bushes on mine at least once a month

its rear steer to me this is
dan
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: muck_truck on November 18, 2007, 23:42:27
its my front axle that has all the play and it doesnt feel like rear steer to me, defo the front end moves.  my rear axle has the solid all in one halfshaft thats part of the drive flange.

you havent seen the amount of play in the drivers side of front axle compared to passenger on mine :shock: supprised it still works.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: extreme90 on November 18, 2007, 23:48:35
if its that bad you aught fit a new flange before it stripps
and then your jiggered  :shock:
dan
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: Lumbering Jack on November 19, 2007, 06:49:41
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
if its that bad you aught fit a new flange before it stripps
and then your jiggered  :shock:
dan


Like what mine did on the 130 - When it does go bang it sounds a lot worse than it is though!  I ended up with a pair of heavy duty drive flanges from Paddocks, might end up doing back ones too eventually.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: GREENI on November 19, 2007, 11:03:52
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "muck_truck"
Mine does same as yours, dont think its bushes on mine as i replaced them all last year (inc bolts)



i have to fit new trailing arm bushes on mine at least once a month

dan


I was shocked at that too !!
I do my chassis/rear trailing arms regularly too.

Some people don't abuse 'em enough :wink:
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: extreme90 on November 19, 2007, 18:17:12
Quote from: "GREENI"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "muck_truck"
Mine does same as yours, dont think its bushes on mine as i replaced them all last year (inc bolts)



i have to fit new trailing arm bushes on mine at least once a month

dan


I was shocked at that too !!
I do my chassis/rear trailing arms regularly too.

Some people don't abuse 'em enough :wink:


winch ropes tell the tale of use  :lol:  :lol:
yours is still yella  :tongue:
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: L90OOK on November 19, 2007, 18:24:59
:(biglaugh):
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 19, 2007, 20:30:53
SOunds lke a dodgy trailing link bush on the passenger's side, but when you say pulls does it pull the wheel or just veer off to the right.

Another thing, is your 90 lifted lots?
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: marjan on November 19, 2007, 21:05:51
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
SOunds lke a dodgy trailing link bush on the passenger's side, but when you say pulls does it pull the wheel or just veer off to the right.

Another thing, is your 90 lifted lots?


Just veers off to the right and is not lifted.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 20, 2007, 00:07:29
Ok then yes it sounds like the rear (LH most likely) rear trailing link (radius arm) has a goosed bush in it, my guess is the axle end.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: GREENI on November 20, 2007, 09:21:48
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "GREENI"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "muck_truck"
Mine does same as yours, dont think its bushes on mine as i replaced them all last year (inc bolts)



i have to fit new trailing arm bushes on mine at least once a month

dan


I was shocked at that too !!
I do my chassis/rear trailing arms regularly too.

Some people don't abuse 'em enough :wink:


winch ropes tell the tale of use  :lol:  :lol:

yours is still yella  :tongue:


That's not very nice..
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: ian_s on November 20, 2007, 10:46:37
if its been recently replaced, you could have got a duff bush or also the bolts could be coming undone.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: extreme90 on November 20, 2007, 20:03:12
Quote from: "GREENI"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "GREENI"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "muck_truck"
Mine does same as yours, dont think its bushes on mine as i replaced them all last year (inc bolts)



i have to fit new trailing arm bushes on mine at least once a month

dan


I was shocked at that too !!
I do my chassis/rear trailing arms regularly too.

Some people don't abuse 'em enough :wink:


winch ropes tell the tale of use  :lol:  :lol:

yours is still yella  :tongue:


That's not very nice..


 :lol:  :lol:
nar, she still new steve  :wink:
give her another few outings she will be fluffy  :wink:
btw, how do you clean it ?
bet it goes into the washer dont it  :lol:
steve, hows kev getting on with his chevy ?
i couldnt believe it me  :shock:
kev was gutted afink, but was putting a good face on, ino i'd be gutted  :cry:
dan
p.s
trailing arm bush chassis end i say, axle end usualy just gives rear steer and doesnt veer as such in my experiance  :evil:  :evil:
and damnit, ive got to change mine again now before this weekends comp  :evil:
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: marjan on November 21, 2007, 11:49:03
Ok so I think we have established that it is the trailing arm bushes, is it worth using Polybushes or do I just stick with standard ones?.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: peasey on November 21, 2007, 12:49:44
go for poly bushes mate and get the full kit it totaly transforms the ride,well it did on my discovery.they really are the way forward i used the orange ones
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: tonycougar on November 21, 2007, 13:01:12
Mine did exactly the same after a trip to Langdale quest. Mine was the passenger side trailing arm bolt had worked loose. This was its first off road trip post a chassis change so all those bolts had been undone, and obviously that one wasn't done up enough.
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: marjan on November 23, 2007, 14:31:00
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
rear trailing arm bush's
check both axle and chassis end,
but my bets on chassis end as mine eats um n does exactly what you say
and also you get rear steer  :evil:
it is however very fun to drive on road  8)
dan


Dan, you're a Bl**dy genius mate. Just had a look underneath and just as you said the rear trailing arm bush (chassis end) on the passenger side is totally goosed. Gonna get some polys ordered straight away.

Thanks very much  :D

P.S. Are these "cranked trailing arms" any good and what exactly do they do  :?  :?
Title: 90 pulling ????
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 24, 2007, 01:41:16
Well I've got some (perhaps why I expected it to be the axle end) and mine are from Gwenn lewis.  Top kit, if a lilttle heavy.

At rest with a 2" lift my chassis bushes are pushed up just a little, so that at say 3" they would be all square like on a stock motor.  This is so they can droop a lot more than they compress, gieven the chassis bump stop will always be in the same place.

http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Range%20Rover%20Blues/gallery/Cranked%20rear%20arms%20from%20Gwenn%20Lewis
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