Mud-club
Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Dr Strangeglove on December 10, 2007, 12:10:02
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I am looking to take my standard 1991 range rover V8 onto the mores in Rossendale, Lancashire. I need to take some kit up there and as such using a vehicle will be a godsend compared to the carrying the stuff up a hill across quarried moorland.
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My rangie is standard with the usual road biased tyres and I need to know your thoughts on if they will be suitable or if I may be risking it! Obviously I don't want to get stuck as recovery will be very difficult due to location. I could possibly get another 4x4 to go with me but I would rather not get stuck to start with!
The land is rough moorland grass and is relatively well drained (a wind farm is being installed as we speak so you can imagine the elevation). I have walked over the land and I will pick a route on foot (avoiding holes, bogs, obstructions etc) but if I need to fit different tyres I will endeavour to get them before I try it!
Any advice will be received with thanks!
Kind regards
Mick
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I would recommend a premium tyre, cooper STTs are excellent, i run on them myself.
Tim
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Kumho KL71's
great grip off road, work well on road, and look grrrrreat.
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Still running BFG A/Ts on mine, long lifespan, great road manners (amazing on snow), and they're not too shabby on the muddy bits either. Expensive, but if you consider how long they last (I read about one person who got 120k miles from a set, 50k seems common) they're not too bad.
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insa turbo special tracks arnt too bad. im not sure how long they will last but they are good in the mud and any other off road stuff come to think of it, not to expensive nither
very noisey on the road though
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I would recommend a premium tyre, cooper STTs are excellent, i run on them myself.
Tim
Great tyre i also run these
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Regardless of which tyres you choose you need to think VERY carefully about venturing across moorland with only one vehicle. Ground conditions can change by the hour in wet weather; if low cloud sets in it is so easy to stray from what you think is the track and you can get well stuck before you know it. I would SERIOUSLY consider spending some of your cash on recovery equipment (winch, ground anchor or at the very least a high lift jack - and learn to use them!
Don't be afraid to get another 4x4 to acompany you - it's common sense(cb radio is also usefull, mobile phones don't always work in the wilds) . The last thing you want is a long walk to find a farmer with a fwd tractor who will probably charge you the earth to drag you out.
As for tyres - I use Colway MTs - cheap and good in the mud.
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Which tyres?..... can of worms.... :roll:
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I agree - two vehicles will be a good idea! I should be able to do that ok. As for the likes of a high lift, where would I use it on a standard 1991 range rover?
I will also look at bodging together some kind of ground anchor IF I can find myself something to use with it!
Regarding the tyre question, I take it using standard road biased tyres is not a good idea. I would rather not have to buy a full set of muds/AT's unless the advice I get is that they are strongly recommended as I will probably only need to use them a couple of times!
Taking into consideration the very limited use this kit will get (once or twice a year), what kit is essential to take. I am not far from civilisation, I can walk to the road within half an hour and the phones do work at that location. I will only be venturing ½ mile of hard top on typical harsh moorland grass.
Thanks for any advice.
Mick
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Moor land...
What is this moor land like, If its peat your driving over then this makes life a lot more difficult and very low ground pressure (ie big with virtually no air in them) plus not very aggressive tyres is the name of the game.
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Well, at the moment i'm in the process of obtaining some Camac terra's as they are more open than an at but not quite as aggressive as mt's. The idea being a better compromise for the wet bottomless woodland and hard roads i spend time on.
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You can make a ground anchor with about 2 feet of angle iron and some metal steaks, that's one of the types the army use.
Buy a proper hi-lift and you can use it with the kit to make a 2 tonne winch, I'dve used it and it beats a long walk.
High lift can go under the tow-bar at the back or better still you can get an adapter from first four off road. AT the front you can use the bumper in emergency, the soft-dash had a hi-liftable bumper under the overiders. You can also get a bumper hook for a hi-lift (or make one).
Mud tyres I'd say. I've got a set of Machos that I don't use any more, mounted on Vogue alloys.