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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: generation-x on January 05, 2008, 21:03:10
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right gettin a bit cheesed off by my neighbours thinkin its great to park infront of my gates at home
not good when both me and the wife are on call 24/7 ive ordered a do not park sign off fleabay so will put that on the gate but if they keep parking wots the legality on clamping? anyone no?
thanx simon
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I doubt clamping will do much - thing is, once you've clamped it it's immobilised, and they might just decide to leave it there until you cave in and remove the clamp. They might respond by angle-grinding it off or thumping you too - people can get a bit intense where these things are concerned...
Go for the sign, and try talking to them. From what I've seen "No Parking: Driveway In Constant Use" tends to be respected.
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You'd be clamping without notice on a public road I'd guess which suspect is a legal no no..laws are also getting a bit tight on clamping anyway....tho you are the other side of the coin....suspect better option is to talk to the neighbours and resolve the issue...
Good luck anyhow...
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Do you have a lowered kerb in front of your gates? If so, surely they are parking illegally and you can notify the police? They might ignore it to start with but if you do it constantly, the message might get through.
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Do you have a lowered kerb in front of your gates? If so, surely they are parking illegally and you can notify the police? They might ignore it to start with but if you do it constantly, the message might get through.
not trying to help the neighbours but i belive u are allowed to park for a certain time outside a drop kerb i might be wrong, if i was u just get some plastic sheting some grease put near the wheels and winch the car up the road :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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yes we have a lowered curb its not like we have only just put it in ive lived in the area for yrs and as far as i can remember its been low curb for @ least 5 yrs
ill stick the sign up see how it goes
thanx guys
simon
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A lowered curb means nothing....
Most peep's respect other peoples entry/exit point's to there properties, others do not.
Other than speaking with them, there's not a lot you or the police can do.
Sorry, but that's the way it is, and I should know, we have been having this battle for the past five-years with our neighbour, Mr Own The Road ](*,)
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I must admit, I tend to get a bit cheesed by this behaviour!! In my last house, if we came home after 6pm on a sunday, forget parking outside out house as there was a chapel round the corner. There was a large free carpark the same distance the other way! but for some reason they didn't care. I talked to the vicar, who was great and promised to talk to the congregation about it. This was done, and for a week it made a difference, then back to normal. So I'm afraid i saw red mist the next time I got caught, and drove onto the steps of the chapel!! and parked. when the chapel kicked out, I was met with incredulous looks, so I explained that I couldn't park outside my house again. Funnely enough, There was no further problems on the street, and the public car park was used for evermore!!
Try talking, but be prepared to escalate if need be, but perhaps more subtily than me!
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You could always try parking your car so one end is sticking out into the space they park in (assuming you wouldn't be blocking the pavement if you did that)...
Cones seem to be respected too - local businesses put them out to give delivery vans/coaches somewhere to park and I've never seen them moved.
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Wait until about 1/2 hour after he has gone to bed one night and then hammer on his door until he answers and tell him that you have been called out and need to get out immediately and that he appears to have deliberately^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Haccidentally blocked you in and can he move his vehicle to let you out. If you interrupt him in the middle of something then all the better. :twisted: Unfortunately you would need to then go out for a while if you hadn't actually been called out.
Repeat as needed. He may get the hint.
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Straightforward obstruction of the highway. If they don't budge, call the Police. I've issued several tickets for exactly that reason. If you have a dropped curb( to the best of your knowledge installed by local authority), then they are obstructing your access to the highway. Open and shut case.
Re the clamping side of things, don't go there! You have to be licensed for a start, and they could then claim that you've damaged their car, and then you would get a summons.
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:dance: PMSL
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many thanx for your replys guys i like the idea of getting them up late
if the sign dont work think ill give that a go :twisted: :grin:
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I agree with LSP, speak to you Neighbourhood Policing Team, get them involved, a few tickets later they will get the message.
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Ive often thought of tugging cars out of the way whenever summot like that happens to me.
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give him a good thrashing :scold: :roll:
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thats one thing that throws the toys out the pram ever time. its even worst when u have more than one car. we need less house packed in an a tiny bit of room to park would be nice. moan over :troll: :scold: :troll: :whothedaddy: ](*,)
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Ive often thought of tugging cars out of the way whenever summot like that happens to me.
"Somebody I know" had a small roadside concrete parking bay on the side of a hill, overlooking the house below, which people used to park in, ie on private property, despite it being very obviously private. One day my "friend" got so irate that he pushed a car from the parking bay out onto the road, bounced it down the road slightly, and then rang the police to report it as abandoned. I'm not sure it's entirely advisable.
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A quick search found this http://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/index.jsp?articleid=7310
Parking enforcement - dropped kerbs and driveways
Fines for cars blocking dropped kerbs or driveways
London Borough of Hillingdon parking services provide a service for residents and issue fines for cars blocking dropped kerbs or driveways. Motorists who park alongside a dropped kerb in Hillingdon could come back to find a parking fine on their windscreen.
Dropped kerbs are provided to help pedestrians cross the road or to assist vehicles to cross the footway to residents driveways. Inconsiderate parking can prevent residents, particularly people with disabilities and persons with pushchairs, from crossing the public highway in a safe manner, and also prevents the residents from getting their vehicles back on the road.
Due to a change in legislation the "obstruction offence" which was enforced by the Metropolitan Police, has now been "decriminalised" by Section 14 of the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003. The decriminalisation of this offence allows a Penalty Charge Notice to be issued by the Council against vehicles that park adjacent to a dropped kerb. The new legislation refers to two different types of dropped kerbs; (a) the enforcement of a dropped kerb where a vehicle is obstructing pedestrian access, (b) the enforcement of a single occupancy driveway for residential premises. However in respect of the single occupancy driveways, enforcement action can only be instigated at the request of the occupier of the premises.
I realise it'sfor a london council But I would have thought that the rules are the same wherever you live.
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If sign dosnt work then contact local council highways and ask them to mark the dropped access with a white "H". Might cost you a few £ but they are used a lot around here and are never disregarded.
Alternativly if you have access to the right paint you could try and save yourself a few £ but might count as vandalism.
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Si - you know what our street is like for parking, we were told that A- if the driveway is empty it is NOT an offence to block it -- but B if drive way is in use then it IS an offence, and as such Police can be involved..
Only problem is our local plod take about 4 days to respond to NON 999 calls (sorry any officers on here) :police: and although there is a station 1/2 a mile away - we are directed to ring a station 5 miles away 8-[
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If sign dosnt work then contact local council highways and ask them to mark the dropped access with a white "H". Might cost you a few £ but they are used a lot around here and are never disregarded.
Alternativly if you have access to the right paint you could try and save yourself a few £ but might count as vandalism.
The 'H's are now FREE , you just have to ring Highways dept. of your local Council- we have had one put outside.. but they will only put them on the width of any drop kerb, we have a 2 car drive - but only 1 side is dropped :(
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If sign dosnt work then contact local council highways and ask them to mark the dropped access with a white "H".
That's all he needs, as if a car parked outside his house isn't bad enough, he might end up with Helicopters there instead :shock:
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Ive often thought of tugging cars out of the way whenever summot like that happens to me.
i had a problem with the local council blokes when they were refurbing the few houses on our street, one day really hacked off i asked them to move their reply was in a bit i told them they were making me late for school with my children they just smiled and said later i went to get camera started to take photos they asked what for i said evidence, if you wont move it i will i then went to turn the disco round so they could see the winch bumper, slowly went down my drive and said either you move it or i will inching slowly towards their van, first they said you wouldn't i replied watch me and went mm's to it they soon ran and moved the van and guess what no council vans ever parked in front on my drive, on ringing the police up before this i was told that we could remove them with reasonable force. i dont know if i had gone through with it but i made my point and when i see any body block my drive i give them about 15 mins and then start piping my horn saying i need to go out they dont do it again
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just set light to it, and every replacement motor till he gets the message.
glad my nearest neighbour is 2 miles away, and the road is a mile down the farm track.
some people are just put on this planet to wind up everyone.
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many thanx for your replys guys and di ;) so good points that i can go away with
again MC users come to the aid of a member
simon
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Straightforward obstruction of the highway. If they don't budge, call the Police. I've issued several tickets for exactly that reason. If you have a dropped curb( to the best of your knowledge installed by local authority), then they are obstructing your access to the highway. Open and shut case.
Oh please come to Fareham and do a few, the local 'team' don't want to know, even if endangers children trying to get to school...http://www.flickr.com/photos/nieljohn/sets/72157603403211733/
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I know EXACTLY how you feel!! got the same problem!
Next door to me is a takeaway, Friday and sat nite is a complete nightmare! they just dump there cars rite across the middle of our drive while they 'rush' in and wait! :roll: And when there waiting for someone sitting in the car and i come to pull of they just sit there like your invisible! :evil:
Unless i jumped in the rangie, fired it quick, one hard Rev of V8'ness and grab D and just go for it!! Man do they shift quick then!!!! :twisted: :twisted:
In didn't know bout the H white line that's pretty cool, might be phone call soon me thinks!
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Had this problem when i lived with my parents, had a dropped curb and a git that kept parking over it, was told that if he blocked a car on the drive he could be done for obstruction and we could have his car removed but if the drive was empty (ie he wasn't blocking anything in) we could do nothing other that ask him to move it
just cos it's a dropped curb doesn't mean it's a no parking zone we were told.
the said git then started to park just off the dropped curb making it a right pain in the ass to turn off the drive, this was resolved when he got a new car and i got an old dodge crew cab pickup and paint transfer wasn't such a big deal to me :twisted:
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i live in a, not really a cul-de -sac, but a dead end...we have a dissused Railway bridge, that then goes to a mass of green fields , where the local ladies have their horses.Anyhow, i also have a big drive and people often use it to turn round on when they find they can't go any further.....even the locals in the street do it...this annoys me behond belief...even when i'm outside working on the Landy....i now park the Landy on the hedge of the drive so they can't reverse up...Having a wall built later this year and put a bloody great big gate on it..
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Straightforward obstruction of the highway. If they don't budge, call the Police. I've issued several tickets for exactly that reason. If you have a dropped curb( to the best of your knowledge installed by local authority), then they are obstructing your access to the highway. Open and shut case.
Oh please come to Fareham and do a few, the local 'team' don't want to know, even if endangers children trying to get to school...http://www.flickr.com/photos/nieljohn/sets/72157603403211733/
Hehe, on Friday I had to call the Old Bill. I was in a narrow street, with a 90 degree bend at the top, nursery right on the bend (the kiddies type) with the yellow zigzags, and 3 cars parked on the lines. As a direct consequence of the cars being there, I could not possibly negotiate the bend (a 33' rigid is not known for its manouverability).
About 5 minutes after I spoke to the control centre, a police van showed up. Unfortunately, on catching wind that the police had been called, the inconsiderate gits (all residents) jumped in the vehicles and scattered. One of them even had the cheek to remonstrate me about having called the police.
Lotsa Kudos for Herts Constabulary.
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glad my nearest neighbour is 2 miles away, and the road is a mile down the farm track.
some people are just put on this planet to wind up everyone.
There's no other way to live! I could never go back to the hassles of trying to park anywhere near the house on a street of terraced houses, with most people having 2 cars and no driveways. Though we still have parking problems, mainly being that the gf's mum always parks her Shogun in such a way that it makes it an almighty challenge to get either of the other 2 cars out!
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Just let a couple of tyres down.
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Ive had this problem in my current house. Thank god im moving in two weeks.
I also have a drop Kurb. I beleive, and dont quote me on this. Im just going by what the guy from the council told me.
Its not illegal to stop someone getting on their drive. But it is to stop someone getting off it.