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Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: BIG_ORANGE_90 on January 28, 2005, 10:53:03: Swiveling shackles, Bought from ebay. All answers and ideas greatfully received.

Cheers :)
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: turtle on January 28, 2005, 11:15:17: Look like the type that fit through the bumper or rear cross member. But could be wrong :?
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: BIG_ORANGE_90 on January 28, 2005, 11:22:02: Well you see i want to put them through the rear crossmember but dont know how, they arnt threaded or anything.
They are apparently from an army bedford mk or alvis stalwart
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Paul on January 28, 2005, 11:43:10: They look like cargo tie down eyes. :-k
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: BIG_ORANGE_90 on January 28, 2005, 12:04:40: Thats exatly what they are. They have a rating of 2915 lbs each, but they will hold more i think.
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: muddyweb on January 28, 2005, 12:24:24: That's not a lot... only 1.3 tonnes.

:?
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: BIG_ORANGE_90 on January 28, 2005, 12:28:15: Valid point Tim, but i think that is to do with the boss that the shackles mount onto. My 3.25t shackles are smaller then these.
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: muddyweb on January 28, 2005, 12:30:56: That was my thinking, most of my shackes are 3t tested, and they look about the same size. Are they steel or ally ?

If the mounting boss *is* the weak bit, then it could be difficult.

Tricky.
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: BIG_ORANGE_90 on January 28, 2005, 12:34:26: Oh they are steel alright the postage cost told me that alone.
Rimmer bros sell a bolt on boss for shackles but i wanted to keep them swiveling.
If all else fails i'll mount them on the quad.
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 29, 2005, 22:32:48: I think there might be an extra part that slides over the shank of the thing as it sticks through the other side of whatever it's fastened to. Am I making any sense?

Think of the retaining mechanism of a sliding brake piston, yeah, that bad! This might be why they're rated so low, then again I have a shackle to fit my NATO hitch, it's huge but only rated at 4t.
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: muddyweb on January 30, 2005, 08:26:08: My guess is that they slot into a keyhole receiver or something similar. Paul could probably tell us for sure !
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Paul on January 30, 2005, 10:56:36: Quote from: "muddyweb"
My guess is that they slot into a keyhole receiver or something similar. Paul could probably tell us for sure !

I'll have a look on Monday and let you know. :wink:
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: BIG_ORANGE_90 on January 30, 2005, 16:12:14: Looking forward to it Paul. :D
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Paul on January 30, 2005, 18:09:14: I've put the camera in the car so I should have some photos too. :wink:
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 30, 2005, 19:45:59: Quote from: "muddyweb"
My guess is that they slot into a keyhole receiver or something similar. Paul could probably tell us for sure !

Yes, of course. Sounds obvious now someone has pointed that out!

Even if that's not how they were fitted originally it might be an easy way to make use of them.
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Wanderer on January 30, 2005, 20:34:40: To be honest the safest thing I can see with that would be a plate (thick) that has a hole for it to fit into. Then cut in half and bolted into a solid mount so that it holds the main swivel.
To be honest, again, they aren't that expensive with no need for the split plate.
Usually the flange would go in from behind and then be held with a circlip to stop it moving back through. It's strength being in the flange.
As the body is bigger then the flange this isn't possible.

I'd be worried of it coming adrift or not being strong enough.
As mentione dpreviously by Tim it looks like a slide in fit with the load pulling it into the slot as opposed to against the flange.

Ed
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 30, 2005, 20:49:20: Quote from: "Wanderer"
To be honest the safest thing I can see with that would be a plate (thick) that has a hole for it to fit into. Then cut in half and bolted into a solid mount so that it holds the main swivel.
Ed

That's how a NATO hitch is made, and they're rated 3.5Tonnes
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: BIG_ORANGE_90 on January 30, 2005, 20:55:29: Thats quite straight forward then, simple enough to do aswell.
Cheers
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Paul on January 31, 2005, 17:38:00: 3 Photos for you.

This is a smaller version of what you have, Found on the rear cargo bed of Bedfords and Leyland Daf:
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Paul on January 31, 2005, 17:39:29: This is how it is secured with a large washer and pin:
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: Paul on January 31, 2005, 17:41:38: This one looks the same as the one in your photo and was found on the side of a Bedford and is welded in place:
Title: Any idea of how to fit these?
Post by: BIG_ORANGE_90 on January 31, 2005, 20:03:30: Thanks paul, that smaller one has given me a idea. :D
Ill keep you all posted.