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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Lumbering Jack on January 19, 2008, 21:25:34

Title: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: Lumbering Jack on January 19, 2008, 21:25:34
Hi guys,

A pal of mine has a 110 with a 2.5 n/a fitted and has chance of a 200tdi disco engine (and box if need be).

How simple is it to fit the 200 and will he need any adapter plates or owt like that?

 :help:
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: davidlandy on January 19, 2008, 21:56:45
it just drops straight in on the original chassis mounts, and you can use the existing gearbox.

the exhaust is the toughest part to do - best to buy the downpipe from steve parker landrovers.

of course you also need to get the disco rad and intercooler, as well as the pipes etc

you will have to be creative with the intercooler and air filter pipes and cut the inner wing slightly to make it all fit, but its well worthwhile.
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: electricbluebadger on January 19, 2008, 22:05:14
The search function gave the following which will hopefully save people having to repost again :) and that was only on the first two pages, there were a lot more...

http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,43789.0.html (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,43789.0.html)

http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,53308.0.html (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,53308.0.html)

http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,52197.0.html (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,52197.0.html)

http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,53125.0.html (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,53125.0.html)

http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,46765.0.html (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,46765.0.html)

Cheers Steve
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: Lumbering Jack on January 19, 2008, 22:42:38
The search function gave the following..........

I deserved that didn't I  :oops:

Thanks for the speedy answers though guys  :D  Sounds straight forward enough
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: kizz81 on January 19, 2008, 23:11:08
hello,
if you or your friend wanted to come and see what a conversion looks like my 1987 90 has had a 200tdi fitted from a 2.5 n/a

cheers kieran
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: electricbluebadger on January 20, 2008, 12:20:37
The search function gave the following..........

I deserved that didn't I  :oops:

Thanks for the speedy answers though guys  :D  Sounds straight forward enough

No probs but couldn't resist a tongue in cheek dig :)

ps fitted a 200TDI into my 90 a while ago so if theres any specifics you need just ask :) only one issue mine was a TD and the radiator mounts are too high for a 200tdi rad, ive fitted a TD rad (full width) which is much bigger and relocated the intercooler behind the rad, to be moved in front when I get a modded intercooler.

TD rad never has a problem even when muddy cos its so much bigger than the TDI number, plus its lower so the bonnet closes no probs.

Cheers Steve
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: Lumbering Jack on January 20, 2008, 19:07:29
Thanks guys, will pass it on and see if the new engine materialises (no doubt if it does we'll be taking up those offers of having a look and asking more questions!  8-[ )
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: Les Henson on January 22, 2008, 08:11:48
You can alter the radiator mounting brackets so that the 200TDi assembly fits and the bonnet closes. Putting the intercooler in front of the TD radiator will make for some fancy pipecraft:)

How I did it-

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=2394 (http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=2394)


Les.
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: Guardian. on January 22, 2008, 09:59:50
if you were a fieldmouse it would be very very hard, as a badger or fox would only struggle a little.
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: Saffy on January 22, 2008, 11:14:58
if you were a fieldmouse it would be very very hard, as a badger or fox would only struggle a little.

I like the surrealist route.
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: Guardian. on January 22, 2008, 18:50:08
got to have a laugh mate, all the crap going on around here at the moment, no funny anythink.
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: BK on January 22, 2008, 22:41:50
Ive done the conversion and my mates just done it,theputting the engine in is the easy bit,its all the plumbing,(intercooler pipes,rad hoses,air cleaner and so on)thats a pain, in my opinion by the time you have messed about doin all this,new intercooler hoses,rad hoses,bit and bobs cos it does all add up you might as well drop a defender engine in,job done trust me.And if you are doin it outside on the street like I did its a right ball ache
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: davidlandy on January 22, 2008, 23:18:22
its not hard to do the pipe work - you just need the ability to work it all out and make a neat job of it.

Its certainley harder to be able to source a defender 200tdi engine and bits.
Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: Lumbering Jack on January 23, 2008, 06:38:47
if you were a fieldmouse it would be very very hard, as a badger or fox would only struggle a little.

 :grin:  I like that.  Fortunately he's a bit bigger than a badger (and a fox)  :lol:


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up you might as well drop a defender engine in,job done trust me.And if you are doin it outside on the street like I did its a right ball ache


 it would be getting done on his driveway with no roof over it - not Ideal i know.  He's got the disco sat there at the moment which is what got him thinking about the swap.

There is a slim possibility of a 300tdi defender engine out of my 130 but need to run that past a few of you first too  :oops:



Title: Re: 2.5 n/a to 200tdi - how hard can it be?
Post by: BK on January 23, 2008, 09:27:27
its not hard to do the pipe work - you just need the ability to work it all out and make a neat job of it.

Its certainley harder to be able to source a defender 200tdi engine and bits.

Yes,if you have that ability,and tools,and time and weather on your side and a source of parts you are gonna have to butcher to make fit!!!!.......its ok if you have a four post lift,all the gear and a workshop out of the rain,but if you havent its a miserable job!!!

 and yes its harder to find a defender engine in the first place but boy its worth it!!!!
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