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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Dixie on January 23, 2008, 23:54:07

Title: Tools to start with
Post by: Dixie on January 23, 2008, 23:54:07
Drive: 200tdi, L-Reg

Ok, so I am slow to pick up the spanner when it comes to major work. I don't have a garage or even a roof to work under and have no real tools other than a set of Metrinch spanners (which means I don't really know if my 200tdi is metric or AF). Shame on me!
I want to do more and my confidence is growing as I start trying stuff myself. Hey, gotta start somewhere - for now it's baby steps...

What tools do I need to start working on the swivels and wheel assy's?
I have my eye on a basic draper expert 6-point socket set (METRIC). Are they any good?

What other tools will I need to tackle my wheel wobble problem, assuming it's swivels and shims country.

Oh, did I mention really tight budget?  :|

I would love to get a Metrinch socket set but the walls of the sockets are pretty thick and the tools are pricey.

Any suggestions?

Cheers
Dixie
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: extreme90 on January 24, 2008, 00:03:10
you will require both metric and imperial sockets
including 6 point and double hex sockets
can i make a suggestion ?
the halfrauds expert set
its got a lifetime garuntee
and for the money, it takes alot of beating
it will contain everything you need
 ;)
apart from spares
lol
dan
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Dixie on January 24, 2008, 00:12:23
Thanks Dan.

I like the sound of the Draper stuff as their sockets are wall-drivers. Do you know if the Halfords range work on the same principle?

I am taking it for granted that the nuts and bolts I have to undo will probably be very worn on a vehicle as young as mine  :D
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Hangover on January 24, 2008, 00:16:37
You'll need a set of metric single hex sockets for sure,1/2" and 3/8" drive.
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: extreme90 on January 24, 2008, 00:29:20
yes, the halfrauds stuff is just as good as the slowly decreasing in quality snap-on, which i now call snap off as alls i do is break the stuff  :roll:
you'll need a doublehex 1/2 socket to undo the two caliper bolts which will be stubborn i guess if it aint been apart fro some time
dan
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Dixie on January 24, 2008, 01:11:43
Will I need to get any gaskets or seals if I start rooting around there?
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Wolfie on January 24, 2008, 01:56:47
I really like the Draper stuff. (possibly influenced by it's easy availability and the discount I get)

I am convinced that the Halfords ratchet spanners are rebaged Draper, so possibly other stuff is as well so compare the prices and buy accordingly.

Most things I have come across on 200Tdi defenders are metric, so concentrate on that, but you'll eventually need a pair of 9/16 imperial spanners for the propshaft nuts and bolts.

A good selection of hammers is also needed  :lol:

The 18V Draper Impact Ratchet is just the coolest tool out there, it even beats the Estwing lump hammer
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 24, 2008, 02:21:48


The 18V Draper Impact Ratchet is just the coolest tool out there, it even beats the Estwing lump hammer

I've got my eye on one of those myself, is it as good as the snap on one?


BTW, no-one has mentioned a torque wrench yet.  Plus a set of feeler guages to do the bearing backlash.
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: L90OOK on January 24, 2008, 09:04:31


The 18V Draper Impact Ratchet is just the coolest tool out there, it even beats the Estwing lump hammer

I've got my eye on one of those myself, is it as good as the snap on one?


BTW, no-one has mentioned a torque wrench yet.  Plus a set of feeler guages to do the bearing backlash.

I have the Snap On one & never leave home without it.
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: BK on January 24, 2008, 09:51:13
Have look around machine mart,they are good value,also Kennedy tools are good,I have a socket set by them and I just cant break it,Draper are good,also go to a car boot and have a look for some secondhand stuff but dont buy the thirty bob stuff off the stalls they are a waste of money,a good idea is to buy some 12 point sockets as well some of the 200 tdi bolts are 12 sided and you cant get them off with a 6 point especially around the hub and brakes,also get a long breaker bar (machine mart) and a good set of screwdrivers that you can get a spanner on to give you some leverage,a grease gun with a flexible spout,a land rover hub nut box spanner(e bay)a good hammer with a fibreglass shaft ,a long piece of scaff pole for leverage,a GOOD set of polished chrome  vanadium spanners (open end and ring),and basically ust build it up as you go along if you are on a budget (like me) :D
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: SteveG on January 24, 2008, 10:32:17
As Dan says the Halfords Professional range is a very good buy as it's good kit and has a lifetime guarantee. So if anything does break replacement is easy and cost free.

Their top set is a good buy and is often reduced from 150 down to 99 pounds.

Cheers

Steve
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: BK on January 24, 2008, 11:25:24
Except the mechanism on their ratchets they dont guarantee them,but all good gear,only snap on guarantee everything but they are 3 times the price
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Saffy on January 24, 2008, 11:25:41
Will also need a safe way to lift the axle/truck and safe method to support the truck.
To me that is an hydraulic trolley jack and blocks or axle stands.

At home I have use block stacks (wooden) for supporting vehicles as I find them more versatile than axle stands or ramps.

Also get yourself a nice large tin of antiseize assembly grease (copperslip) and a tube of gasket sealant.
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Wolfie on January 24, 2008, 13:03:46


The 18V Draper Impact Ratchet is just the coolest tool out there, it even beats the Estwing lump hammer

I've got my eye on one of those myself, is it as good as the snap on one?

Can't compare the quality as I haven't actually seen or used the Snap On one. It was a bit of an impulse buy, I saw it on the shelf and decided that it would be happier if it travelled about with me.

I'm happy with it's performance, it seems to be up to everything I ask of it (but doubt that it would cope with the 200 crank pulley bolt)
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: POTASH on January 24, 2008, 17:31:03
pack of plasters :D
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Tommo on January 24, 2008, 17:41:22
lets not forget the hub nut box spanner
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: richo on January 24, 2008, 18:14:40
disposable gloves are handy
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: burgerman on January 24, 2008, 18:37:37
 The 9/16th special long socket for prop nuts, Not essential but VERY good to use and you will save money on the plasters also  :lol:
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Dixie on January 25, 2008, 17:34:30
Thanks for the growing list.

Picked up a 64pc Sealey socket set (AK694) for £79 which seems to be a good buy. Never used sealey before so hope it not a lot of wasted money.

Judging by the list above, looks like I need a few more bits.  :D

Thanks again.

Dixie
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Devon-Rover on January 25, 2008, 18:15:46
Well i consider myself an amateur mechanic and for most jobs on the landy i wouldn't be without.

Socket set (Well it's my dad's Elora one) 1/2 drive, sizes something like 6 mill to 35 mill and equivalent AF and Whitworth sizes.
Spanners (mostly two of) sizes 4 - 32, And the most common Imperial's.
A few various size adjustables
driver set (Flat / Phillips / Torx / Posi )
Trolley jack.
Axle stands.
Torque wrench.
Hub spanner.
Hex key set.
Feeler gauge (metric / Imperial)
Medium and BIG hammer.
Grease gun.
Multimeter.

most other things start getting a little specalised so tools you need for those are probably better brought when you actually need then so spreading the cost. Or just borrowing from someone nearby who has them.
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: BK on January 25, 2008, 20:38:23
Sealey is v good gear :D
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: davidlandy on January 25, 2008, 20:49:14
i have got the halfords professional 150pc set in my LR - its a great set and highly recommend it.

Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Tommo on January 26, 2008, 10:09:28
i have got the halfords professional 150pc set in my LR - its a great set and highly recommend it.



Yep me too and it fits perfectly behind the drivers seat in my truck cab.
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: davidlandy on January 26, 2008, 11:56:54
i have got the halfords professional 150pc set in my LR - its a great set and highly recommend it.



Yep me too and it fits perfectly behind the drivers seat in my truck cab.

I couldnt get mine to fit there - how have you done that?
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: Tommo on January 27, 2008, 19:41:39
i have got the halfords professional 150pc set in my LR - its a great set and highly recommend it.



Yep me too and it fits perfectly behind the drivers seat in my truck cab.

I couldnt get mine to fit there - how have you done that?

Well i tried at first pulling it in so it sat on its side so to speak, (with the carrying handle on the side) but it was too tall and the seat wouldnt go back. but if i lean the drivers seat back right forward lift the tool case by the handle, place it on the back of the seat and slide it downwards then it just slots in between the middle seat and the seatbelt mechanism, then the seat back returns to the fully upright position no problem.

I hope that made at least a small amount of sense!
Title: Re: Tools to start with
Post by: freeagent on January 29, 2008, 22:52:50
I can certainly recommend Halfords pro tools... they really are up there with the best.
I've also got Teng, Britool, Stanley, king dick and Elora stuff... all top notch.

Draper and Sealey are OK but personally i'd choose Halfords or Britool.

Good tools are an investment, cheap ones are a total waste of money, and they WILL let you down.

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