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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: SimonHarwood on January 24, 2008, 18:13:55
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I had an email from the Neighbourhood Watch today....
Crackdown on registration number plates
Motorists with misrepresented or indistinct registration number plates
are being warned to change them or face the penalty.
Officers from Leicestershire Constabulary's Automatic Number Plate
Recognition (ANPR) Unit and Road Policing Unit are taking part in a
week-long national crackdown on registration plates from Monday January
28.
Officers will be stopping vehicles displaying number plates that are
damaged and therefore difficult to read, as well as plates that have
been deliberately altered to read something different. This includes
plates where the font has been altered, the letters moved closer
together or the screw heads re-positioned so that the plate reads
differently.
Sergeant Simon Greensmith from Leicestershire Constabulary's ANPR Unit
said: "Motorists may not realise that they are committing an offence by
deliberately altering their number plates or displaying a broken or
obscured plate. However it has a big impact not only on the ability of
officers to read their number plate, but also for other members of the
public. This could be particularly important if the vehicle is ever
stolen or if it is involved in a collision.
"Indistinct or misrepresented number plates are also being actively used
by some criminals to avoid our ANPR camera systems.
"Leicestershire Constabulary is urging any motorist with an illegal
number plate to rectify it immediately or face the penalty when they are
stopped by officers. From Monday we will be carrying out stop checks
across the city and county. Depending on the offence officers can issue
a vehicle defect rectification notice, a £30 fixed penalty notice and
apply to DVLA to have the number plate withdrawn from use. This could be
an expensive penalty for a motorist who has paid a large sum of money
for a specific registration plate.
"If a motorist is believed to be fraudulently using a registration plate
or is displaying a false plate they can go to court and face up to two
years in prison and a discretionary disqualification."
The following restrictions apply to registration plates:
All number plates from September 1, 2001 must display the new mandatory
font and comply with British standards in relation to size, font and
background.
Black number plates with silver or white numbers or letters may only be
displayed on vehicles manufactured or registered before January 1, 1973.
Self adhesive number plates are illegal (i.e. plates stuck on the bonnet
or sticker style plates.)
Number plates where screw heads are positioned to change the appearance
of a letter or number are illegal.
Single line number plates on motorcycles are illegal.
Foreign style, British number plates are illegal.
If a number plate is cracked or broken and the damage makes the number
difficult to read then an offence is committed.
For more information go to www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles
Issued on 23/01/08 at 11:31
This has been a long time coming. It was promised when the new number plate system came in.
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Big brother cant read your plates... horsepoo to the 'For the public' reasoning.
Given Genesis cant read plates in ideal conditions its almost comical.
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I had an email from the Neighbourhood Watch today....
Crackdown on registration number plates
Motorists with misrepresented or indistinct registration number plates
are being warned to change them or face the penalty.
Officers from Leicestershire Constabulary's Automatic Number Plate
Recognition (ANPR) Unit and Road Policing Unit are taking part in a
week-long national crackdown on registration plates from Monday January
28.
Officers will be stopping vehicles displaying number plates that are
damaged and therefore difficult to read, as well as plates that have
been deliberately altered to read something different. This includes
plates where the font has been altered, the letters moved closer
together or the screw heads re-positioned so that the plate reads
differently.
Sergeant Simon Greensmith from Leicestershire Constabulary's ANPR Unit
said: "Motorists may not realise that they are committing an offence by
deliberately altering their number plates or displaying a broken or
obscured plate. However it has a big impact not only on the ability of
officers to read their number plate, but also for other members of the
public. This could be particularly important if the vehicle is ever
stolen or if it is involved in a collision.
"Indistinct or misrepresented number plates are also being actively used
by some criminals to avoid our ANPR camera systems.
"Leicestershire Constabulary is urging any motorist with an illegal
number plate to rectify it immediately or face the penalty when they are
stopped by officers. From Monday we will be carrying out stop checks
across the city and county. Depending on the offence officers can issue
a vehicle defect rectification notice, a £30 fixed penalty notice and
apply to DVLA to have the number plate withdrawn from use. This could be
an expensive penalty for a motorist who has paid a large sum of money
for a specific registration plate.
"If a motorist is believed to be fraudulently using a registration plate
or is displaying a false plate they can go to court and face up to two
years in prison and a discretionary disqualification."
The following restrictions apply to registration plates:
All number plates from September 1, 2001 must display the new mandatory
font and comply with British standards in relation to size, font and
background.
Black number plates with silver or white numbers or letters may only be
displayed on vehicles manufactured or registered before January 1, 1973.
Self adhesive number plates are illegal (i.e. plates stuck on the bonnet
or sticker style plates.)
Number plates where screw heads are positioned to change the appearance
of a letter or number are illegal.
Single line number plates on motorcycles are illegal.
Foreign style, British number plates are illegal.
If a number plate is cracked or broken and the damage makes the number
difficult to read then an offence is committed.
For more information go to www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles
Issued on 23/01/08 at 11:31
This has been a long time coming. It was promised when the new number plate system came in.
I wish they would get it right!!! Its vehicles manufactured before 1st January and first registered before 13th (or somewhere round that date) January 1973. I went through this when i tried to get black and white plates made for my old tax exempt motor.
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Even when you have a tax exempt logbook some places won't supply them.
Arse/elbow, they need clearly labelling.
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great that they are cracking down on these no. plates
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Nothing I can find on the DVLA site backs up the claim that 'stick on' plates are illigal as stated in the email :-. except for the fact it dosnt meet the 'british standard' as regards the supplies name and postcode isnt displayed on it. The rigid on the rear also dosnt have it on and neither does the cracked plate I keep in the back (off the front).
The 110s number plates are also illigal in this respect. There dosnt seem to be an exception for the fact that the 110 is 24 years old and the plates look like originals.
I will be extreamly miffed if I get pulled for an otherwise easly readable plate (correct font, size, colours and spacing)
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hmmm hang on, i have got a sticker front no. plate - its all spaced out and printed correctly with the postcode.
Does this mean Im going to prison?
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hmmm hang on, i have got a sticker front no. plate - its all spaced out and printed correctly with the postcode.
Does this mean Im going to prison?
See you there. I don't even HAVE a front plate...
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I do think a crackdown on these ones where they've messed around with the spacing to sort of make a recognisable word is in order. Half the time I can't even tell what it's supposed to say as the link between what's on the plate and what they think it says is so tenuous! Not impressed with the bits about needing postcodes or not allowing sticky ones though - surely any criminal is going to have their false plates made up a few hundred miles away from where they live or intend committing a crime?
I did want D1 SCO (with the proper spacing - no messing around needed!) but it seems someone has beaten me to it...
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Big brother is watching you - but his eye sight ain't what it could be. I live near two traffic police. They have his n hers boy racers with 'illegal' personalised plates! Can't wait 'til I get stopped for either my stick on front plate or the 'small' no. plate on my bike :evil:
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Don't know about Crackdown, as I've cracked my numberplate!
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l77/Gribun/Bump14-01-08008.jpg)
Mind you the Vauxhall van it hit is in worse condition. ;) :twisted:
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I know of the guy with with the DISCO plate, he races a car at Castle Combe and has DISCO on something like a big bently or BM 6 Coupe, he owns a load of nightclubs and is minted (through his own hard work and smarts mind you)
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the laws for stick on number plates only apply to vehicles reg after 2001,
All number plates from September 1, 2001 must display the new mandatory
font and comply with British standards in relation to size, font and
background.
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I do think a crackdown on these ones where they've messed around with the spacing to sort of make a recognisable word is in order. Half the time I can't even tell what it's supposed to say as the link between what's on the plate and what they think it says is so tenuous!
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About time they cracked down on it. Some are altered so much I often wonder what the original reg is !
I have noticed a lot of boyracers are using fonts so small they would have to leave the plate behind in a hit and run in order for anyone to read it.
While the plod are having a crackdown, will they also be checking the colour of their lights ?
I saw a private hire taxi this week with red headlights ! How the heck did he pass any sort of licensing inspection ?
A few years ago they clamped down on truckers having tiny Christmas trees on the dashboard ( for showing colours other than white at the front of the vehicle).
Nowadays, it seems that unless you have fairy lights all over the car, you are in the minority.
Can anyone tell me what those tiny blue lights on the bonnet do, apart from get up my nose ? No you don't look like a copper and I am NOT moving over for you !
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Captaincolourful - live n let live - you may not like their little blue lights (I hate 'em and their boom boom music) but they in turn might hate out MT tyres or winch mounts! The main problem here is - each vehicle stopped and fined for illegal plate or whatever is a Law broken - crime solved. Makes 'em look good. But report your car stolen, house broken into or property damaged and no one seems to want to know!!!!! Time to get priorities redressed and start paying more attention to stopping the crime that realy affects us, the people who pay for their services.
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Captaincolourful - live n let live - you may not like their little blue lights (I hate 'em and their boom boom music) but they in turn might hate out MT tyres or winch mounts! The main problem here is - each vehicle stopped and fined for illegal plate or whatever is a Law broken - crime solved. Makes 'em look good. But report your car stolen, house broken into or property damaged and no one seems to want to know!!!!! Time to get priorities redressed and start paying more attention to stopping the crime that realy affects us, the people who pay for their services.
Thanks for the laugh - thought the same thing yesterday when I got stopped for having my plate in the windscreen on full view and readable rather than on the front bumper buried under lengths of recovery rope and in all possibility broken.
Yep gotta be an excuse to up the conviction stats :roll: :roll:
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I know of the guy with with the DISCO plate, he races a car at Castle Combe and has DISCO on something like a big bently or BM 6 Coupe, he owns a load of nightclubs and is minted (through his own hard work and smarts mind you)
Oddly enough I thought either a mobile DJ or a nightclub owner were likely holders of the reg in question! Bet he's wondering why he keeps having to fend off Land Rover drivers who want to buy it...
I think the blue LED washer nozzles are a current fad amongst the Max Flower crowd. I just think they look daft. I also wonder how on earth some of these cars get through an MOT - ok, I have "ice white"-type bulbs in my headlights but they're fully certified and have passed two MOTs since fitting. I can't believe they really swap back to legal plates, bulbs, etc when MOT time comes?
The only blue lights that will make me move over are the flashing sort.
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Captaincolourful - live n let live - you may not like their little blue lights (I hate 'em and their boom boom music) but they in turn might hate out MT tyres or winch mounts! The main problem here is - each vehicle stopped and fined for illegal plate or whatever is a Law broken - crime solved. Makes 'em look good. But report your car stolen, house broken into or property damaged and no one seems to want to know!!!!! Time to get priorities redressed and start paying more attention to stopping the crime that realy affects us, the people who pay for their services.
Thanks for the laugh - thought the same thing yesterday when I got stopped for having my plate in the windscreen on full view and readable rather than on the front bumper buried under lengths of recovery rope and in all possibility broken.
Yep gotta be an excuse to up the conviction stats :roll: :roll:
Yup, i got done for that about a month ago.
The law states that the numberplate must be at the very front of the vehicle and not displaying it like that is breaking the law. Its even against the law to have them on the roof rack as well :(
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Yup, i got done for that about a month ago.
The law states that the numberplate must be at the very front of the vehicle and not displaying it like that is breaking the law. Its even against the law to have them on the roof rack as well :(
I wonder what they'll make of mine now with one on the rack and one on the bumper....
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Actualy the law states that it should be at the front of the vehicle not at the very front. It should be legable at 20 meters from someone standing in front (or rear for the rear number plate) of the vehicle and close to vertical as is reasonably practial.
There is no mention of hight (that I can find).
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I've the black n silver plates on BETTY, that i brought last year at LRW EASTNOR...I have had these fitted since June 07 and not been pulled once..(you watch now)..anyhow.., i start work at 3.30 am and drive from Atherstone in to the centre of Brum 5 days a week....That time of morning, Police a plenty, and i'm prime suspect to be pulled..But i've had the jam-sandwiches follow me on a few occassions and not a sniff..(not that i want them to)...My dad, on the other hand is a MOT tester and told me always carry ya other plates incase i do get pulled and change em there and then...i did for the first 2 months then left em at home in me shed...I think IMHO, that as long as the motor is taxed and looks in good order they leave it well be, because of the paper work....thats just my opinion... :-k
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is it not about time the police had a crackdown on muggers, thiefs, anti social behavior etc why allways motorists
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durham plice are also starting a crackdown
my front no plate is in the cab as its always getting smashed and its spaced out slighty ( classed as a show plate) but i'm all for pulling over the ones who bunch them clocse to spell there poxy names or change the letter font so that it appears to be somthing else
examples what should be caught id this example i saw recently s 13 ell which when doctoered spelt S BELL
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Saw one today P5 5ALL .... didn't mean a thing to me, but I wondered if P155 ALL would have been a better buy :angel:
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is it not about time the police had a crackdown on muggers, thiefs, anti social behavior etc why allways motorists
Because it's easy. If you have a dodgy numberplate, or are caught speeding, the evidence is tangible and readily available to use against you. Unfortunately this is not the case with other more socially unacceptable crimes.
But having said that, if people don't break the rules, they won't get pulled up. It all very well having a moan about it, but it's the law. You find that the vast majority of people that don't like it when these clamp-downs happen are those people that are breaking the law in the first place :roll:
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It all very well having a moan about it, but it's the law. You find that the vast majority of people that don't like it when these clamp-downs happen are those people that are breaking the law in the first place :roll:
Or its people that have been affected by 'real' not fluffy crime.
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durham plice are also starting a crackdown
my front no plate is in the cab as its always getting smashed and its spaced out slighty ( classed as a show plate) but i'm all for pulling over the ones who bunch them clocse to spell there poxy names or change the letter font so that it appears to be somthing else
examples what should be caught id this example i saw recently s 13 ell which when doctoered spelt S BELL
So you can break the law, but because you don't like a certain plate it should be pulled. Dual standards my friend. There are a lot of issues to considered here. The government make alot of money selling these plates, and they know that people will make then read something else in many cases if they can. Then they try ty fine people who do just that!
Yes I can see what you say land-def-90, if you break a law don't whinge when your convicted for the crime, but how long are we going to let the government keep chipping away at our real rights and freedoms. Crimes such as this are small acts of rebellion against a government systyem based on fear and repression. In 99% of cases involving so called number plate crime there was no real criminal reason for the offence, just an expression of individuallity from the offender. And lets face it, by declaring your individuality through a number plate you are also making it easy for the police to trace you.
Finaly, just because something becomes law doesn't make it moraly correct.
V
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Couple of points - DVLA ring and sent out letters offering personal numbers to people thats name matches a plate!!! That means the government encourage it but the police knick you. And regarding the public being able to identify you if you see a car carryin out a bank raid with TW4T as a plate or something similar its much easier to remember than a bunch of random meaningless letters/numbers.
Second and main point, although it may be breaking the law its the amount of time and energy put it by the police in relation to the severity of the crime thats my beef. One of my service engineers had his car broken into and £3000 worth of tools stolen while he popped into a shop. The vehicle was clearly shown on CCTV covering the car park including the reg number. The police 1. didnt turn out. 2. Said they shouldnt have been on display!! (in an estate car with the seats down and the entire rear of the car filled with kit and covered by a blanket. 3. Said they knew of other offences committed by this car but hadnt the resources to follow it up because it was reportedly from a resident camp of our travelling community "friends". Thats why I get annoyed when hear stories about crackdowns on such petty things. Fine if they happen across a vehicle wjilst out and about but to have one of those vans, probably 3 or 4 cars and motorcycles laying in wait all day just to catch a few people who have slightly misplaced numbers beggars belief in my book.
Rant over lol, Nick.
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durham plice are also starting a crackdown
my front no plate is in the cab as its always getting smashed and its spaced out slighty ( classed as a show plate) but i'm all for pulling over the ones who bunch them clocse to spell there poxy names or change the letter font so that it appears to be somthing else
examples what should be caught id this example i saw recently s 13 ell which when doctoered spelt S BELL
So you can break the law, but because you don't like a certain plate it should be pulled. Dual standards my friend. There are a lot of issues to considered here. The government make alot of money selling these plates, and they know that people will make then read something else in many cases if they can. Then they try ty fine people who do just that!
Yes I can see what you say land-def-90, if you break a law don't whinge when your convicted for the crime, but how long are we going to let the government keep chipping away at our real rights and freedoms. Crimes such as this are small acts of rebellion against a government systyem based on fear and repression. In 99% of cases involving so called number plate crime there was no real criminal reason for the offence, just an expression of individuallity from the offender. And lets face it, by declaring your individuality through a number plate you are also making it easy for the police to trace you.
Finaly, just because something becomes law doesn't make it moraly correct.
V
mines visable from the front if i get pulled for that fair comment but my reg isn't changed or loks no diff instead of L18 BWH it reads L18 BWH an extra inch between numbers and letters
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Second and main point, although it may be breaking the law its the amount of time and energy put it by the police in relation to the severity of the crime thats my beef. One of my service engineers had his car broken into and £3000 worth of tools stolen while he popped into a shop. The vehicle was clearly shown on CCTV covering the car park including the reg number. The police 1. didnt turn out. 2. Said they shouldnt have been on display!! (in an estate car with the seats down and the entire rear of the car filled with kit and covered by a blanket. 3. Said they knew of other offences committed by this car but hadnt the resources to follow it up because it was reportedly from a resident camp of our travelling community "friends". Thats why I get annoyed when hear stories about crackdowns on such petty things. Fine if they happen across a vehicle wjilst out and about but to have one of those vans, probably 3 or 4 cars and motorcycles laying in wait all day just to catch a few people who have slightly misplaced numbers beggars belief in my book.
Rant over lol, Nick.
exactly - well put
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mines visable from the front if i get pulled for that fair comment but my reg isn't changed or loks no diff instead of L18 BWH it reads L18 BWH an extra inch between numbers and letters
I shall see you in prison m8! ,
meanwhile somewhere some burglaries and stabbings are going on.....................
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mines visable from the front if i get pulled for that fair comment but my reg isn't changed or loks no diff instead of L18 BWH it reads L18 BWH an extra inch between numbers and letters.............
The rules on leter size and spacing are as strict as those for font and position of plate - therefore you are breaking the law just like matey with S Bell, but to be frank I haven't got a gripe with that. My gripe is that I feel the police ought to be addressing some of the more serious issues that are affecting those people who pay their wages; by the way I don't blame the ploice - its the government that tells 'em what to do that are at fault. Just don't dare to complain or try to be different!
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Ask a biker about number plates.Iv'e been stopped by the police and he had a tape measure and checked my plate for letter size's.Would'nt of minded but the bike had the same plate on it from the dealer when i brought it new.It even had the dealers name on it.It turned out to be spot on ,they must of been bored or something that day.
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hello,
reading this thread with interest,
would you say mine is illegal shown below?
(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/11/29/53/55/dscf0712.jpg)
it is held on by two black tie wraps, it has 2 large cracks in it and spot light bolt comes down on it,?
if it is it be ok " sorry officer "
cheers for any help
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No but i think you might get 30 years for the yellow bar as that might scare someone while you drive past and they could fall under your wheels.
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Not this old chestnut again! :rolleyes: Boring! Kepp the plate legal, and no one will bother you!
If you want to be different, paint your car in a different colour or something!
I get fed up with those who seem to want to show off that thaye have spent loads of cash out on an illegal plate. From experience it seems to those who have BMW M3's, M5's, X3's or X5's
HELLO! I know what car you have, Cockbrain, so why feel the need the spend more of your money to draw attention to yourself?
Its like the people who spend money to get the word SEXY in their number plate. They might as well get a notice that says "I am an ugly small minded person with an over inflated opinion of their prowess between the sheets, and by the way if you fancy an easy lay, see me behind the nearest KFC"
I get more job satisfaction out of catching burglars, rapists etc etc.
Again these are my opinions and do not reflect that of the Police, blah blah boring moan fart gone to sleep,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,......................
Play by the rules and you'll be OK. :police:
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maybe true but i didnt spend any money on that plate infact i got it off the old rusty bumper with a hammer and screwdriver
( the reason why it cracked :lol:)
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As long as its off a vehicle thats the same make and model...plod will be none the wiser, but don't go telling everyone, they could be watching.
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As long as its off a vehicle thats the same make and model...plod will be none the wiser, but don't go telling everyone, they could be watching.
I didn't see a thing! Thats very kind sir, the tickets for the Police Ball will be in the post!
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As long as its off a vehicle thats the same make and model...plod will be none the wiser, but don't go telling everyone, they could be watching.
I didn't see a thing! Thats very kind sir, the tickets for the Police Ball will be in the post!
I wonder how long it would take if I were to use this one:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/2100943460_f659f849cf_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2054/2100944228_c03c59f87a_b.jpg
Niel.
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Personally I don't have a problem with this as I don't see why people think its such an effort to display legal number plates on a vehicle. If you keep breaking those cheep crappy plastic plates (which are rubbish to be fair, don't think any other country uses them) then you can get pressed metal reflective ones, some of which are approved to the current standard and are legal!
If your vehicle is old and doesn't have the plates with the current British standard on it that's actually fine, you don't need to display BS it if its registered pre 2001 (basically not on the current age system, or maybe Y reg (though that might just be the emissions tax date)). If you replace the plate on an old vehicle then it should probably have the current standard on it but how can you prove when the new plates were made? If its readable and spaced properly then I can't see anyone checking that one.
If your pre 73 and like me you think plates are too expensive/hard to get, just paint your number in white/silver letters to a black part of the vehicle - its actually legal to do this so long as its clear and an appropriate size, at that age there is no mandatory font. If your vehicle is younger than 73, get over it, whats wrong with reflective plates anyway? Want to fit black lights to match the paint too? If I was a copper and stopped someone with illegal plates but some legal ones in the back that they'll fit there and then I'd throw the book at them, blatantly guilty as sin and they know it!
Yes pulling people over for these sorts of things are agueably a bit petty but then most have actively chosen to try and bend or blatantly break the rules, what makes them special to do as they please? Hopefully the police will pick up on the dangerous illegal HID converted headlamps some of these vehicles also run, the only thing they convert well is dipped beam into my face. Its a shame they are only cracking down on this so road charging schemes have an easier job fining you but it does have benefits to you... Big brother is here to stay and if your truck gets nicked, I think theres possibly some increased chance one of the many plate recognition systems around might gather some info helping find where it went, after all, any info is good on this matter - you'll never know if your plates weren't readable. Also, if YOU were the victim of something like a hit and run but no one could read the plate of the offending motor, how annoyed would YOU be? Also applies to uninsured/taxed cars, they are getting allot now through plate recognition, that means there are a few less out there to write off your pride and joy - another plus I think.
Sound's like I get a bit worked up about this which is kind of true, but ultimately I know I can't get too mad as this is something people will always be breaking I suspect. Maybe they should simply crush any vehicle with a deliberately tampered with plate, see how many people run illegal plates then? Hopefully if they fine enough people to make it annoying for drivers with bad plates there might be less people doing it so the police can deal with something else.
Chill, its just my opinion and not aimed at anyone specifically.
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Your opinions - no prob with that. But by clamping down on petty misdomenours like this the government arn't doing anything to make it harder form criminals - just criminalising normaly respectable people. Lets face it real crooks will do as little as posible to draw attention to themselves, but by deamonising individuality (which by its nature makes the culprit easier to identify - which is the idea of numberplates anyway) the pwers that be keep us all, scarred and divided and stop us questioning what(if any) their real agenda is! Be affraid - very affraid; Big Brother is watching you!
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Will never understand this one if you have a legal plate there is no worry.
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I'm defintely in the camp of the "Keep it Legal" brigade. 'taint difficult!
As for the so called waste of police time etc etc...
I think you'll find that this clamp down works as a "loss leader" in retail terms. Sell a product at a loss in order to sell more of the expensive things for a net gain.
I'm certain that in the process of stopping the many and varied people with illegal number plates, some will have no tax, some will have no insurance, some will have warrants for failing to appear, some will be wanted with respect to other more serious crimes.
Sure I'd like to see a boby on foot in every street, with a team of CID available for every single crime, but face it folks... how much tax do you want to pay?
Skibum
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And when they ban Greenlaning or Motorsport 'cos it's dangerous, will you give that up. The only people who say there is a connection between illegal plates and other crimes are senior police or 'government types', and we believe them without question! I know I keep ranting on about this one, and to be fair its a minor issue and not realy worth the argument(although one I have a personnal interest in as a Biker). The big issue is the way we seem to accept what we're told without question these days. Fuel prices go up, we pay; laws are passed, we obey; your neighbours a terrorist, we believe. We need to learn to question facts, decisions and prejudices again - Viva L'revolution comrades.
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if they have anpr set up to spot these people it will highlight no tax no insurance and stuff. it is a win win situation. i do not want to be hit by an illegal driver as i will have to pay for it. bring on the anpr and get these illegal users off the roads and crush their cars.
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They can already crack down on un-taxed and un-insured vehicles through the computer data base, they don't need to spend time and money with road side crack downs. If some one is driving without tax or insurance do you realy think the plate on the vehicle will help catch them. Its probably reistered in some previous owners name or has a properly illegal plate ( as in totaly made up or lifted from a similar car) made up and fitted.
On a slightly different tact but same theme - while working in the Motor tradr I sold a vehicle tpo a traffic police officer who suggested it might be a good idea when making up his number plate to get a couple of the didgets mixed up? I have also been pulled by the traffic police and told I had an illegal plate when I knew it to be perfectly in complience with the law. He didn't know Motor cycles were allowed slightly smaller letters than cars! Still got a producer and the hassel that goes with it.
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I have no problem with people being pulled and if they have an illegal plate then they get whats coming, its that fact that they have a month long purge with roadside offficers etc for what is basically a very minor offence and not even considered a crime. Then when your car gets broken into they cant get an officer out becuase they are all "busy". Where are the month long crackdowns on car theft, house break ins, on the travelling community trashing our trading estates and shooting out security cameras and lights, umpteen other "real crimes" that deserve far more police attention than a motorist that hasnt got his number plate spacing correct.
In the majority of such cases they make the vehicle more easy to trace not less because they are so blatantly obvious and memorable.
Just my opinion!
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Wish they would do it around our way. I have just reported, for the third time, an Impreza parked in our street with no tax and a stupid plate!!
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is it not about time the police had a crackdown on muggers, thiefs, anti social behavior etc why allways motorists
Sometimes its the thieving scum who will have dodgy plates, for drive away fuel fill ups, and generally not following the laws - including speeding & driving without MOT & insurance. SO yes, its pants that this is big brother, but for the 90% of law abiding motorists then we shouldn't worry about it, if it means that stopping the dodgy plated vehicles means a few rustbuckets are removed & crushed becuase of lack of insurance etc.
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so whats the thought on this .................... i have a stick on plate on the front of the "misstress" its been on there for at least three years and she is on a k reg is this illegal or leagal? i am so confused :doh: :roll:
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White/silver on black plates used to be illegal after about 1970 IIRC, the extra 3 years came in when tax exemption was introduced (or was it when it was capped at 1973 :-k) because it makes them stand out etc etc.
As for the metal pressed ones, there was talk about them becoming the legal standard in line with Europe, because they are more 'serviceable' ie they don't crack.
But when the cost of them was about £50 a pair and plastic ones were still a fiver,it didn't get any further.
Pressed metal plates are legal in the UK and were fitted by lots of dealers in the past, I just think they look ugly.
What I can't believe is legal are the cheapo plastic plates fitted to my Micra, they look like stick on number that have been laminated onto a bit of yellow card. Fitted by the stealer though so.....
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is it not about time the police had a crackdown on muggers, thiefs, anti social behavior etc why allways motorists
Sometimes its the thieving scum who will have dodgy plates, for drive away fuel fill ups, and generally not following the laws - including speeding & driving without MOT & insurance. SO yes, its pants that this is big brother, but for the 90% of law abiding motorists then we shouldn't worry about it, if it means that stopping the dodgy plated vehicles means a few rustbuckets are removed & crushed becuase of lack of insurance etc.
I,m sure that sometimes what you say is true in a minority of cases. But criminals ain't thick and won't draw attention to themselves unnecessarily and so will just fit a ficticious, stolen or cloned plate so some innocent motorist gets the ticket. The issue is how easily the government can draw attention away from an innabillity to do something about serious crime by getting everyone supporting them in their crack down on minor infringements such as imaginative number plates. If it was a big issue why arn't they fining people as they park down the street during their regular patrols.
Next time someone posts that their precious 4x4 was nicked and it took 48 hrs for the police to respond - remember they were probably busy manining a road side number plate crackdown or a speed cheek on the local dual carriage way were there hasn't been an accident in 30 years but people regularly break the limit. (not speculation - heard it from the man holding the camera)
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i no someone with the number plate t7t me for txt me, she been pulled over loads, but i realy think the police have better things to worry about, i.e harder crimes, :police:
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i no someone with the number plate t7t me for txt me, she been pulled over loads, but i realy think the police have better things to worry about, i.e harder crimes, :police:
TSEVENT ME ?
I never did get the hang of that text speak :rolleyes: