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Title: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: bodgeitjo on January 26, 2008, 16:27:12
hi guys and girls, just wondering what i would need to change / add to change from lt77 to r380. i have heard that the 300 tdi is a stronger box is this true?. thanx in advance.             jo
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 26, 2008, 17:07:11
IIRC it was designed to handle more torque, so I guess it is stronger but more than that it's a much nicer box even when worn out.  IIRC it still has recognised weak spots though but if I could get one I'd fit it.
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: Benjamin on January 26, 2008, 18:28:37
As far as i know the lt uses cable speedo and the 380 is electronic. Other than that i think its a straght swap.
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: andyb on January 26, 2008, 18:37:26
Yes pretty much straight swap. Make sure it is a Discovery gearbox and even the bell housing bolt pattern is the same....

...however, you will need to change over the speedo sender, R380 one is electronic as already noted. When you look at both LT77 and R380 side by side you will see that they both have all the mounting bolt holes so you can fit the LT77 mounting to the R380 and reuse your original gearbox cross member.

I've swapped LT77 into a Disco behind a 300Tdi and put an R380 behind a 200Tdi also in a Discovery. PM me if you want any help etc :)
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: wizard on January 26, 2008, 18:46:46
You will also need to change the hand brake cable if using the drum on the R380 box as they have different fittings to the LT77.

wizard :twisted:
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 26, 2008, 18:52:26
As far as i know the lt uses cable speedo and the 380 is electronic. Other than that i think its a straght swap.

Good point, what year is the Disco?chances are it's got the electronic sender on the LH chassis rail anyway, so it's just a matter of wing it up.  AFAIK the pulse/timing is the same on the R380 sender as the LT77 one.
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: bodgeitjo on January 26, 2008, 19:21:57
cheers guys thanx for your responses so far. hand brake no probs got both types in garage. its a 94 disco so not sure about wireing.
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: Mr Alford on January 26, 2008, 20:09:22
hi guys and girls, just wondering what i would need to change / add to change from lt77 to r380. i have heard that the 300 tdi is a stronger box is this true?. thanx in advance.             jo

yes straight swap
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: andyb on January 26, 2008, 22:26:57
You will also need to change the hand brake cable if using the drum on the R380 box as they have different fittings to the LT77.

Yeah you're right. I changed over the handbrake and speedo bits when the box was on the floor. I links up with the handbrake lever that is already there, that end of things is the same.

Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: Evilgoat on January 27, 2008, 20:05:34
Mine has an R380 I beleive. Gearleaver gaiter is a bit of a bodge though.

Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 27, 2008, 20:09:19
cheers guys thanx for your responses so far. hand brake no probs got both types in garage. its a 94 disco so not sure about wireing.

I'm pretty sure you have an electronic speedo then.
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: Landynuts on January 27, 2008, 21:21:30
Don't forget to change the gear knob as reverse is on the opposite side.
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: stuntman on January 27, 2008, 21:26:38
I wondered about this aswell, so is just a straight swap?

Drop old gearbox and transfer box swap in R380 and transfer box with new handbrake drum etc, and wire up speedo?

Is it that simple  :?
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: wizard on January 28, 2008, 07:08:27
yep that about it. Mines been in for a few years now. Still got the original gear knob though...

wizard
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 28, 2008, 11:35:12
yep that about it. Mines been in for a few years now. Still got the original gear knob though...

wizard

As an anti-theft device?
Title: Re: can u put r380 gearbox in 200tdi
Post by: stuntman on January 28, 2008, 12:58:55
Okay so just to make REALLY sure the mechanical side is just a straight lt box out R380 with 200 tdi handbrake in? The rest is just wiring up etc.

What about the transfer box? is the 300 series the same as a 200 series etc? I'm really sorry for asking for idiots guides to this but I'm also in the position that my gearbox and transfer box are on the way out in my 200

Thanks in advance everyone

Andi K
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