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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: Jeff J J on March 14, 2008, 22:08:35

Title: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: Jeff J J on March 14, 2008, 22:08:35
Hi every one dose any one no if you can get clear rear light clusters for 300Tdi I have clear indicators front and rear but think to finish the job off clear rear lights would do the job. Plus when i have the old light out what sort of mod do i need to do to make the the main light work as in when the lights are on i have red lights on the bumper and on the rear light cluster. That should get some minds going. Thanks Jeff
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: ben_haynes on March 14, 2008, 22:42:07
to get both the bumper and cluster lights working i have fitted a set of 200 series lights,

yes you can get clear lenses, but dont know where from though
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: Jeff J J on March 14, 2008, 23:38:00
Cheers Ben if i manage to find a clear light cluster kit i will try and get the 200. Was it a case off taking the old 300 out and putting the new 200 in its place or is there any wireing involved. Jeff
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: ben_haynes on March 14, 2008, 23:55:08
yes just take the 300 one out and pop the 200 one in,

you may find that you need to run a wire for the side lights but from memory i dont think you do (i will ask my boss if he had to wire his up) when he fitted his
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: Range Rover Blues on March 15, 2008, 03:44:21
Fitting 200 light units you will gain both a tail light and an indicator, you can wire up both from the loom that runs behind the light unit as the wires you want run in the main loom.  I seem to remember something about swapping one of the wiring strips over from one to the other too, but I've only done it once so memory is a bit hazy and it was dark/in a hurry so no photos :roll:

The hardest bit I found was getting the waterproof jacket back in place.
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: landroverkeith on March 15, 2008, 10:34:20
I found those silly little plastic wingnuts that hold the light in to be the biggest pain   =; i mean whos hands are that smalllllll lol
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: MudRat on March 15, 2008, 10:43:05
I found those silly little plastic wingnuts that hold the light in to be the biggest pain   =; i mean whos hands are that smalllllll lol

 I agree there!! depending on what year 300 u have will depend whether its a straight swap or u need to run a wire.
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: ben_haynes on March 15, 2008, 20:21:32
I found those silly little plastic wingnuts that hold the light in to be the biggest pain   =; i mean whos hands are that smalllllll lol

mine fit in but having the Dickie seats in is a PITA  :'(
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: BigA on March 17, 2008, 19:35:14
with the dickie seats in, you have to bend your arm in about 8 places too, while undoing the wing nuts :huh: another quality Land Rover design.
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: landroverkeith on March 17, 2008, 19:42:20
i enlisted the help of my nephew last time i had to do one hehe cost me a lolly but it was worth it
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: rejo on March 17, 2008, 20:15:51
You could always do it this way. I removed the yellow plastic lens from the bumper lights and replaced it with a clear lens, this then made the indicaters into reversing lamps. The lamp housing on the side I made the reversing lamps into indicaters by fitting with orange bulbs. All I had to do then was change a few cables around on the inside. The top lights are brake and tail but on the 300 models the tail light connecter has been chopped so I had to add another cable and a connecter onto the metal tab that comes from the light fitting. Non off this was difficult just time consuming as the 6th seat had to come out and I didnt have a wiring diagram at hand for the cable colours only a multimeter.
If you do it this way you will get 4 tail lamps and a million times better reversing lamps, it also makes the indicaters higher. I reckon this should of been done originally as it seems to me pretty dangerous having the tail and indicater lamps so low down that the person behind you cant see them half the time.
A multimeter and a couple of hours would be all it takes to do this .... a wiring diagram would be handy as well.
It also saves you buying 200 shape lamps.
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: Range Rover Blues on March 18, 2008, 01:27:23
But as I said earlier the change was driven by safety legislation, which if I understand correctly you have "broken".  The change was intended to make both the tail lights and 4-way flashers (hazards) visible even with the rear door opened, in the even that you were broken down or parked at the side of the road.

Whilst I applaud your ingenuity it is important to remember that designers do things for a reason, it's only stylists who do them on a whim ;)
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: ben_haynes on March 18, 2008, 11:40:53
i am with RRB on this one
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: stageonesimmo on March 18, 2008, 14:44:26
Yip, youre actually messing with a very important peice of work known as 'Type Approval' by muckin with the lamp layout.  Not saying its a bad idea and the police/Mot Man will be after you or anything like that, but like RRB poionts out - these things are done at the design stage for very valid reasons and are usually safety related in some way.  By all means mess with new ways of doing things, but I always look at keeping the basic system the same and adding to it to improve it thus avoiding any legal implications........
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: freeagent on March 18, 2008, 18:33:04
yep, agree with the above, you shouldn't mess with the lamp layout...
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: mentalmoshio sophs V8i on March 18, 2008, 20:11:40
not sure where these are from but they look hybrid freelander one almost
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: Jeff J J on March 18, 2008, 20:39:35
I like the look of them. Ok this has opened up a can of worms as far as i see it if i find clear lights for the back i will try and get 200Tdi and do the wireing to give me extra side/main lights and indicators as on other wagons i see no drama with that mod .Then if i cant find clear light then i will use a black spray to subdue the original lights to get the look that im after. Jeff
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: mentalmoshio sophs V8i on March 18, 2008, 21:01:29
a mate did his back lights with spray paint . there is proper tinting spray u can get

oh them lights are from bolt on bits
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: Jeff J J on March 18, 2008, 21:22:02
Cheers david i have asked on this site and the Disco owners club first just to see if any one out there nows where i can get them. Before i start emailing companys but im sure some one out there makes them or can knock some up. If you can get clear indicators front and rear there must be clear light clusters. I am away on tour for six month so that well give me time to try and square away some for when i get back ready for leave and all the little jobs i have planed.
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: mentalmoshio sophs V8i on March 18, 2008, 22:43:51
bolt on bits no. is 01274 86 99 55  :| :-'
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: nzoliver on March 19, 2008, 10:02:48
But as I said earlier the change was driven by safety legislation, which if I understand correctly you have "broken".  The change was intended to make both the tail lights and 4-way flashers (hazards) visible even with the rear door opened, in the even that you were broken down or parked at the side of the road.

Whilst I applaud your ingenuity it is important to remember that designers do things for a reason, it's only stylists who do them on a whim ;)

Yep, but then in '96 they went back to '200' style tail lights combined with bumper lights. In theroy the 'returning' of the indicator to the main cluster would NOT be a problem.
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: Frankie-Boy on March 19, 2008, 10:37:37

I know you can get clear lenses for the bumper lights at the back but I haven't seen any for the body clusters, I'd be interested in some myself if anyone can find them.  :)
Title: Re: Clear Rear Light Cluster
Post by: mentalmoshio sophs V8i on March 19, 2008, 23:37:20
could use light masks to be different , but not the cheap tacky ones
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