Mud-club
Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: BigA on April 07, 2008, 13:39:58
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MOT is due at end of month, and thought i had best check the boot floor. Well as i expected, it has rusted, just a bit more than i expected, it has basically rotted all the way round.
So, am i right in thinking that its just as well to just get a new floor, rather than try and patch around it?
Also, is it (does in need to be) welded all the way round or can i just spot weld it? or.... does in need welding at all (wishful thinking i think)
Paddocks looks the best price for the floor £48 + VAT, unless any of you good fellows can point me in the direction of better.
Cheers for now.
Andy
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Hello matey, you can pop rivet it in. however the surrounding area needs to be rust free.
I found it easier just to remake the whole side areas and weld all the way around , it's best to make a good job first time round, sorry for that bad news!
Regards
Andi K
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Officially............because it was spot welded originally that is the minimum you should do to replace it!
I've heard of riviting it, but I'm not convinced??
Most set it in place and weld all round, with the mig version of spot welds over the cross members (drill holes and fill them with weld)
Try http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stage1v8/TechnicalBootFloor.htm (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stage1v8/TechnicalBootFloor.htm) here for a description of one person doing it.
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:shocked: andy you makin me feel much about my disco, I thought it was only me that found more to fix everytime i fixed summat that fell off
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:shocked: andy you makin me feel much about my disco, I thought it was only me that found more to fix everytime i fixed summat that fell off
The more i fix, the more i find wrong, and then the more i make worse :roll:
And this looks to be no exception. I have had a closer look and cleaned up around the rust, it looks as though its not going to be as easy as replacing the floor, as what the new floor would be fixing to has also rotted away around the back end, and half way up the two sides.
i think it may be just easier cutting out the rust and welding new plates in, but i will hopefully get a second opinion or two at tonight's meet.
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In all fairness i would weld a new boot floor in :smiley:. The amount of flex there when the floor is removed is unbelievable. Also being a tester i would not recommend using rivets :smiley:
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Humm this is interesting.
The Range Rovers all had pot riveted boot floors. I have often wondered why on the Disco they went over to spot welding the things in as it a major inconvenience!
I took a look at mine as I've noticed water coming into rear foot wells from under the rear seats. The water was coming in through the reather ample holes in the floor :-(
So I have to replace mine as its rotten as a pear in a cesspit! Mine will require some welding to be done to the sides as well where the seams have rotted out between the wheel wells and the floor sides.
Then when I've done this I can tackle the inner and outer sill on the drivers side which don't exist any more at the back apart from the remains of the body mount which is bolted to the chassis.
Then I may tackle taking off the washer bottle and welding up the hole in the inner fliche underneath it!
Then I may try and see if I can get off the rear vertical panel on the back door hinge side at the back (where the rear light cluster is) and see if I can repair the bottom of the goal post section where its rotted through and try and stop the body flexing when you open the door.
Then I should be just about ready to go round again and start any other new welding jobs that have occurred since I did my initial list.
:roll: :doh: [-X :rolleyes: :evil:
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Would it pass an m.o.t.if I welded some pieces in ,that were cut from another old floor, over the rotten bits?
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Yes it will pass has long as there are no holes anywhere near a body or seat belt mounting. Plus the carpets are screwed down with trim and we are not aloud to lift them up :lol: Plus what we can't see we can't fail :-#
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5mm sheet for the floor and 5mm to beefen up the xmembers. That shouldn't go anywhere then :grin:
Rich
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Well, there is nothing to weld the floor too at the moment having removed the rust, so going along BigRich's plan, have ordered a sheet of steel, but rather than p-late over the whole floor, i am going to fit the sheet to the hole, spaced with plate as required between the cross members and the sheet, and weld plate round the edge. at least that's the plan [-o<
then just to find the rest of the holes, replace the steering box, fix the water leak, and find anything else.
the way i feel at the moment, i would rather scrap her and go back to a 90, at least that's nice and easy ali sheets :(
Oh the joys of Landy ownership :wink:
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Well replaced the floor at last over the weekend, with much appreciated help from Big Rich and Dave (don't know your mud club name sorry), here are some picks to show the job.
MOT booked fro friday, so fingers crossed [-o<
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(http://lh5.ggpht.com/andypseymour/SBYPxTXJEVI/AAAAAAAAANQ/qpVV3CBxCiM/s144/ABCD0007.JPG)
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So new floor and shiny MOT in time for the meeting on Monday...?
Fingers crossed [-o<
Rob