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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: stuntman on April 10, 2008, 13:10:32
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Hello eagin everyone.
I'm fitting twin shocks to my 200 tdi, +2 lift with BM HD Blues and Procomps, and all the rest of the kit.
I'm happy with what I'm doing I just need to ask if I'm going a bit overkill? I have 'jumped' the truck whilst playing at pay and play days and I thought why not, I already had two spare mounts for the tops and wizard supplied the bottoms (cheers gerard).
Now I'm thinking what benefit would twin fronts give me? It might be a bit OTT but I like the idea of twin fronts and backs, can I expect any significant change in the ride quality, and has anyone else done this?
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I've a low mileage 200tdi with rebuilt cylinder head and a recon fuel pump in the garage, but it needs the bottom end replaced, I believe water may have got in the past, I bought my current disco with it fitted and it smoked badly but when it was revving it didn't smoke, only when allowed to idle and had no compression - I suspect rings.
Are these straight forward to rebuild and what can I expect to pay out in parts for rings etc, and is this a competent home mechanics job? I just want to find other people who have done it.
Thanks for reading all this
Andi
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Come down and see me... I have a good 200TDi engine in the one I'm breaking.
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Haha, I want to rebuild the spare one I have in the garage!
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Hello eagin everyone.
I'm fitting twin shocks to my 200 tdi, +2 lift with BM HD Blues and Procomps, and all the rest of the kit.
I'm happy with what I'm doing I just need to ask if I'm going a bit overkill? I have 'jumped' the truck whilst playing at pay and play days and I thought why not, I already had two spare mounts for the tops and wizard supplied the bottoms (cheers gerard).
Now I'm thinking what benefit would twin fronts give me? It might be a bit OTT but I like the idea of twin fronts and backs, can I expect any significant change in the ride quality, and has anyone else done this?
I look after a budget comp safari racer that runs twin shocks all round. The idea is to reduce the effects of 'fade' with repeated bump absorption. This is usually cured with a shock that has a remote reservoir.....altho there is a lot more to it than that.....bump/rebound ratios etc.
I have to say that I don't think that twin shocks will have any effect wrt jumps. Remember the shock absorber is actually a damper and is there to stop the oscillations of the spring. If you are finding that you are hitting the bump stops during a landing then a higher spring rate is the way to go. You will also find that you are putting additional strain on swivel pins and hub mounting flanges....in fact this was one reason that LR moved from 6 to 7 bolt axle ends. I have seen both hub ends fail at the same time on a RR that was 'getting air' at a play day.
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When you rebuild the 200 tdi andi, let me know cos i have got a ring compressor and a bore honer in the garage :afro:
Gavin.
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Twin shocks have been "associated" with better handling and not needing ARBs, I don't get that myself but hey-ho. You will of course get a harder ride, much more crashy (bump-thump) too.
I've got to agree with Andy B here, the way dampers work when you are landing a special valve inside the damper "blows off" excess pressure, the dampers do not absorb that much shock, so longer and stiffer springs are called for.
Remember though that we are talking about a 2 tonne car here, there is a reason that elephants don't jump ;)
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Haha, I know, but something inside of me wants to try, I reckon I will try it and if I don't like the ride I will use the front second mount as the primary one as it will make replacing the shock so much easier.
I'm just going to have a play really, at least I can say that I've had them on and tried it :-.
Next. Anyone for the engine quesion???
Cheers Gav, will do matey
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Emgine-I suggest you weigh up the prices of doing the work, reboring, crank regring etc etc and dicide whether it would be cheaper to buy a S/H engine that runs. If the head is good it has to be worth a few bob as 200TDi heads are still about £500. You could alomost buy a complete 300 for that.