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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: daggie on April 20, 2008, 17:42:06
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are active in beds/ bucks area :evil:
weld everything down :evil:
this is a public service announcement :roll:
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weld everything down :evil:
Including pikey if you get the chance, I'm sure a gas axe would render one imobile in the short term.
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What have they done now??
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What have they done now??
Steal, lie, cheat, con old people, fly tip?
Where do you want to start?
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Shoot them....
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BURN THEM and their families! :evil:
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Doesn't this thread count as racism? if you want to spout right wing facist statements I believe both the National Front and the British Nazi Party have their own websites.
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...and Basil Brush :twisted:
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White transit long wheel base tipper going round with 2 big fellas in wearing fluorescent jackets.
Been past my place twice in last week looking at my 90 parked on the garden so be warned!
Not had chance to get number plate details but will post if I do and let the fuzz know.
Been a victim of these sort of people before and don't want anybody else to suffer.
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Doesn't this thread count as racism? if you want to spout right wing facist statements I believe both the National Front and the British Nazi Party have their own websites.
To a point, I agree RH. But I think the difference is between 'real' gypsies and what is affectionately called a 'pikey' here! We have a family of genuine gypsies living near here. A motley bunch, but all real honest people. Conversely, we had a recent spate of thefts which were attributed to travellers. I heard it was the local gypsies who helped the police locate them.
Let's be careful not to generalise.
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My point exactly. Some of the nicest and most honest people I've met have been gypsies. Unfortunately It seems nowadays that if anything gets stolen by some one in a transit. Then it must be Pikeys or gypsies when the truth is it's more likely to be locals who know you. or who have been scouring the area looking for stuff to steal. Especially with the prices Scrap is fetching at the moment.
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I get the impression that genuine gypsies find these "people" as annoying as the rest of us do, if not more so as they get the flak too. Much the same as Mud Clubbers finding the tiny minority of irresponsible off roaders annoying as their behaviour gets us all a bad name.
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Pikeys/travellers = scum
Gypsies = lovely people
Not hard to tell them apart ...just look at their campsite.
Gypsies ...nice tidy and often left in a better condition than when they arrived.
Pikies campsite is ........... not nice.
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We had some parked near us a week back. You could see there rubbish before you could see them, the night they left the go kart track next to which they parked was totally cleaned out, everything was stolen, im not saying it was the pikeys but................................
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if you get reg or any other detials can you let me know
Cheers
Dazza
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BURN THEM and their families! :evil:
That's a smidgen over the top isn't it ? How about we just spurn them, and encourage our friends to spurn them and then ... err... [1]
Anyhow, whilst I can appreciate this is a topic which stirs up some pretty heated emotions may I ask politely for people to temper their comments to not unduly cause offence.
[1] Perhaps the last two thousand years haven't been all progress.
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My point exactly. Some of the nicest and most honest people I've met have been gypsies. Unfortunately It seems nowadays that if anything gets stolen by some one in a transit. Then it must be Pikeys or gypsies when the truth is it's more likely to be locals who know you. or who have been scouring the area looking for stuff to steal. Especially with the prices Scrap is fetching at the moment.
In line with the rest of the posts on this matter.....
Pikeys and Gipsey's are completely different people, and this thread and the IMHO spot on descriptions is about Stinky, Thieving, Lying, Tax Evading, Did I Say Thieving, Lazy, Layabout, Thieving Pikey Scum! :lol:
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BURN THEM and their families! :evil:
say that in the area near me and you would be getting a visit from plod :police: and then a short ride to clink it happened to one of the bonfire marches when they used it as their theme for the bonfires the leaders were carted off to court accused of inciting racial hatred
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A thief is a thief !
Where do the gypos get all their dosh then to afford all the gold and new caravans? Not working hard I can tell you.
Been done over by the nice type of gypsy and a pikey type and cant see any difference between em.
DON'T get freindly with any of em coz they will <edit> (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,42831.0.html) you over soon as look at you.
Used to live down south and they pillage everything they can.
Scum of the earth in my oppinion, period!
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There round our way to at the moment.Last week i was working in my garden when a tipper transit came down the road at about 3 mph with the passager door ajar and a small boy looking out ready [at the comand of his father]drive out and grab anything of value.
They have just done a big building site up the road for red diesel.They managed to spill a few hundred gallons in the process and polluting a grass area kids play on.
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Quite a few years ago there was a farm done on Salisbury plan for diesel and they spilt some on the A36 on their way home. Early hours of the next morning a guy on a motorbike on his way to work lost his life on a corner where the spill had happened. Fuel drums were found on a legit gypsy camp and a nissan cabstar that had red diesel all over it (even inside chassis)!!! BUT no charges ever brought coz the cabstar was still registered to the builder who sold it 3 years earlier and the fuzz had no evidence of the driver/passenger.
These people have been above the law for years and I dont think it will ever stop.
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These people have been above the law for years and I dont think it will ever stop.
Its not that they are above the law, it is more the case that there are very few senior Police officers with the balls to actually take them. Most grass roots Plod, and I include myself in those numbers, are quite happy to deal with those that cause damage, thieve etc etc, but the Oh So PC world that we now live in makes it more difficult.
The legislation is there, but now the Human Rights impact has to be considered. Surely the Human Rights of the victim counts for something?
As I've said before on previous topics, zero tolerance is an option, but it would mean just that. Zero tolerance for everything and everybody. It does work, it could be done, but the amount of resources needed to carry it out would be immense.
Would we get the support for it from the Public? Initially, yes, but as time went by, the support would drop away as the Liberty types get the high horses out.
The easiest way I've found of dealing with them, is to dip the tanks on the vehicles. If it comes up red, bingo. The wagons get seized, and they get the message to clear out. But that doesn't stop the problem, it just moves it on elsewhere.
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2 years ago I was fishing on a well known lake in Ringwood and there were a bunch of gypos who moved onto water authority land beside the lake. Whilst there they nicked everything they could and went to every pub/resturant in the area and ran up a big tab and did a runner. They were shooting (air rifles) at the anglers and dog walkers having huge fires with loud music till the early hours and the fuzz seemed powerless to do anything. Eventually they just went and when the area was checked over nicked cars, motorbikes trailers and even a fag vending machine from the local pub were found. They only moved 20 miles or so away and started all over again but nothing seems to be done about them.
Now, If a few of us drove onto private land and started our own offroad site and trashed the place I am sure we would get locked up in no time.
I think the trouble is that people just dont work together anymore and are scared to stand up to the scum for fear of being penalised. Too much political <edit> (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,42831.0.html) these days.
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When they are out theiving, take everything they own, caravan and all, to the local tip, it's a public service you'd be doing, or maybe just have a bit of fun with an old tank, and drive over everything they own.
Some people call me harsh, but I'm hard but fair, and the local council can collect the crushed caravans for scrap at minimum £120 a ton to offset the site clearance.
Everybody wins, no-one is hurt, and the pikeys are gone elsewhere, and just slightly discouraged from coming back.
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Great idea but why stop there? after all that council estate just round the corner must be full of junkies and joyriders why not burn all there houses down while they're out getting their daily fix. Then theres's all those eastern europeans taking our jobs and hassling our women, and then we could start deporting anyone who looks a bit muslim after all one or two of them might be terrorists and if we get rid of em all we won't have to worry about whether we got the right one or not. Hey if we try hard enough we could resurrect the 4th reich in a couple of months.
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yup ,lol , council estates should be burned to the ground , free loading so and so's.
<edit> (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,42831.0.html) it , burn everything , capitalist establishments , consumer driven enterprises , supermarkets , petrol stations , religious organisations,
or shall we blame everything on the gypsies instead?
personally i dont blame anyone for not wanting to be a part of this society , sure there are some nasty pikeys out there , but who buys the stuff they steal?
i doubt its other pikeys,
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i cant belive how so much hatred can be towards people you dont know, yes there are sum who steal yes there is sum who make a mess, and lots who dont work, but what about all the druggies, burgulars,cowboy builders who also fly tip ( more) you need to stop and look around more there is more in your local estate who do more damage and make more of a mess than you think,
there is some who do alots of the things mentioned but you cant tar all them all with the same brush,
does this mean them crackers in the 4x4,s who make a mess on the green lanes means all the 4x4 drivers are crackers?
i know taxi drivers who use red diesel in there cabs, and dont care who or where they get it from, people in cars
i just cant understand how people can call people who they dont know [-X
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Our local Tesco had stop the free nappy service due to travellers walking in and removing them all everytime the machine was filled :(
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Our local Tesco had stop the free nappy service due to travellers walking in and removing them all everytime the machine was filled :(
So it was guaranteed 100%. Always travellers? Never ever some Local who lives nearby and shops there regularly. NO it was pikeys who were parked in the carpark just waiting for the machine to be filled so they could empty it again????? Because hey it must have been such an earner for them much more profitable and so much easier than stealing cars and red diesel.
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It was the travellers in this case. They had set up camp just across the road in our local public park.
I would like to defend them, but in this case it was them. They also left a horrendous mess in a place where my children had previously enjoyed playing. I've also been in a local pub when a group came in, ordered about 20 meals for 10 of them, ate them and simply walked out. I was stunned. The staff did nothing because the group were camped not more than 500yds from the pub.
These are cases I have witnessed. It is not heresay.
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It was the travellers in this case. They had set up camp just across the road in our local public park.
I would like to defend them, but in this case it was them. They also left a horrendous mess in a place where my children had previously enjoyed playing. I've also been in a local pub when a group came in, ordered about 20 meals for 10 of them, ate them and simply walked out. I was stunned. The staff did nothing because the group were camped not more than 500yds from the pub.
These are cases I have witnessed. It is not heresay.
Should do what most other pubs go then and take the money when the meal is ordered. I don't think I've ever had a pub meal where I didn't pay when I ordered the meal.
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free nappies? id do it my self. :clap:
have you seen the price of them lately?
makes you wonder who the theives actually are.
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Should do what most other pubs go then and take the money when the meal is ordered. I don't think I've ever had a pub meal where I didn't pay when I ordered the meal.
I don't think I'd eat at a pub that didn't run tabs ... I don't generally carry cash. In fact my local pub is table service for food. You pay at the end. Not unusual at all.
I will point out that we moved our local meet from the Billing Quays, one of the reasons was the sudden dropping of tabs.
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Great idea but why stop there? after all that council estate just round the corner must be full of junkies and joyriders why not burn all there houses down while they're out getting their daily fix. Then theres's all those eastern europeans taking our jobs and hassling our women, and then we could start deporting anyone who looks a bit muslim after all one or two of them might be terrorists and if we get rid of em all we won't have to worry about whether we got the right one or not. Hey if we try hard enough we could resurrect the 4th reich in a couple of months.
You may be onto something, except the 4th Reich never really existed, it's the 3rd you'd be trying to resurrect.
Lets just hope that this remains the black humour that it is, and some stupid sod doesn't decide to do anything we've suggested in jest.
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when we starting the 4th reich a few suttle changes to the Rules and it might work :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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What an interesting debate, and all started because someone posted that "pikeys" had been seen in the area, but as far as I can see no actual offence has been mentioned? Great to see that the great power of hysteria hasn't been lost. Keep us scared, give us a common enemy, keep us controlled. Happy St. Georges Day.
ps - one of the best days out I've had was at the Appleby Horse Fair.
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Many moons ago, I used to work for a London Borough - and had to deal with the occasional encampment of Travellers.
On one occasion, I'd been dealing with some "new age" travellers - I turned up on site, to find that irish travellers had turned up as well. I jumped out of the car (locking it) and starting chatting to the guy in charge - only to get back to my car to find that someone had been in to the car through the sun roof and emptied my purse which had been in the glove compartment.
............the guy in charge was seriously [!Expletive Deleted!] - he found the (young) culprit and turned him physically upside down and shook all the money out of his pockets - giving it all back to me - but I have to say - I think I made a profit :grin:
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Appleby fairis a place I will never venture, I have a VERY short temper and I know how to use it, especially when it comes to cruelty to horses or dogs, I've been asked o leave a local horse maket after showing direct postive action against a rather cruel, shall e say traveller type and his son.
My fist stung for about a week :oops:
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Appleby fairis a place I will never venture, I have a VERY short temper and I know how to use it, especially when it comes to cruelty to horses or dogs, I've been asked o leave a local horse maket after showing direct postive action against a rather cruel, shall e say traveller type and his son.
My fist stung for about a week :oops:
I thought that there were plans to stop Appleby Horse Fair after a horse had been run to death last year.
We used to have similar problems at the Horse Fair at Watton. My sergeant at the time got into trouble with the bosses after he got the fair there banned for a year, as he was able to show that during the weekend that it happened, the crime rate tripled. No blame was laid at any section of society.
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just my 2p worth..if they are law abiding people, why is it when ever a car is followed into a site on something like Police camera action etc..the vehicle (if found) is driven away - and NOTHING is ever done to the travellers, not even questioning? many years ago we had a gypsy site set up quite close to my parents house - and the kids were inducted into our school for about 6 weeks - i had the chance to visit the camp and see inside the caravans, and believe me, i have never seen a cleaner caravan since..cut glass and white lace everywheer - all shoes must be removed before entering, and when they did go the site didnt show any sign of anyone being there (and im going back to the mid 70's so they had real fires)
as a marked contrast - the last lot that came close to us lasted 3 days and the place looked like a bomb site - live and let live i say - but some people dont deserve this right!
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I agree with discowoman. Judge a person by their own actions not by some sterio type that the media/government/politician have feed to us.
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I deal with this type of people on a professional basis :undecided: Although the caravans are clean they are still a lieing bunch of thieving scum :( I say as I find and I find this all too often :x