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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: muddydisco on May 22, 2008, 19:20:07
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At what point will the price of fuel put you off.
Green laning / Offroading :|
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At what point will the price of fuel put you off.
Green laning / Offroading :|
Never, and for now there is always Veg Oil :roll:
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Already has thats why my defender 110 will be up for sale next week :'( :'( i do a sixty mile round trip in it everyday and i just cant afford to run her anymore and she is a 200tdi :'( i have had landys as far back as i can remember and this is going to be one of the most sad times of my life :oops: and i wont be buying another 4x4 either i will have to get a car :shock: :shock: the price of fuel where i live is verging on £1.30 so by august it will be £1.50 easy i reakon :'( :evil: :evil: :evil:
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im going back down the V8/LPG route.
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The anti-4x4 pundits must be laughing all the way to the bank, as they fill the car parks with their micro-euroboxes.
Love 'em or hate them, the french seem to get results don't they.
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I'm not sure, I've been running it on LPG for over nine years, and the price per litre has risen by just over 20p in that time.
I've been watching fuel prices locally, which seem cheap in comparison to other areas of the country (109.9p), and Unleaded has been rising by one or two pence per litre per week for about three months, sometimes a penny over a weekend.
Every three to four months I get a shock when I have to refill the tank with Unleaded.
I'll probably keep it another couple of years and review the situation again, which will probably mean I'll be buying a 4.4 Rangy (they will be cheap second-hand), and getting a PRINS LPG conversion done, with bigger LPG tank(s) than the current Disco.
Won't everyone else?
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For me its a combi of the price for road tax and fuel is putting me off now.
I debating getting rid of the 4x4 and going down the cheaper road... but are not sure at the moment.
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I'm lucky as I have a Biodiesal supplier about 4 min drive from me, it 95p per litre at the moment. Slowly switching over to 100% for the summer. The thing is, there are not many vehicles that can tow 2.5 tonnes plus legally - what do you do?
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Wouldn't be much point selling the Landy any alternative would cost as much or more to run or I wouldn't be interested.
When the debt collectors came to cover the cost of credit need to fuel it.
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well this is a bit academic as we have got rid of the disco and brought a Mondeo Zetec...got fed up of driving around to find a bio supplier that A- had some, and B- was still in business!..also putting £70-£80 a week in a vehicle that rarely went more than 30 miles from home (apart from 1 off journeys) was a bit galling..would have gone for a really small vehicle, but with 2 adults and 3 kids + 1 rotty we had to compromise..still not fantastic on juice, but for £20 of fuel we are getting approx 40-50 miles more.
Miss the comfort and high driving position but having something in my back pocket sort of makes up for it!
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Will stop commuting by car first, last thing to go will be the 90. But I try and keep below 5000 miles a year as it is anyway.
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I looked at not taking the car, and going by bus.... result was into work early and not able to get home till after half six so that wasnt very pratical. Currently I am spending about £75 a week in fuel, just going to and from work in the 110. Im off to look at a rover 420D at least it will be better fuel econ than the lanny. My other option is move to a job closer to home, but when you live in the middle of knowhere thats a bit difficult.
What is the limit when we all say enough is enough? And actually get out there and show the bunch of cronies that are in power that we are not sheep and wont be rolled over time and time again!! Not that Im calling for a revolution but the farmers wont be able to cope over the summer harvest if the fuel goes up much further... Food cost is going to rise, not that it already has... Haulage costs are going to sky rocket pushing up goods and services.... The only thing thats guaranteed not to rise is wages.......
Where does it all end.........................
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Never, and for now there is always Veg Oil :roll:
Been looking at that It's £1.17/l in the tesco near here diesel isn't much more, so it's not worth risking my injector pump.
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Seeing as how everything is so expensive ill keep on playing wiht cars as the alternative is sitting still dooing nothing, or worse, daytime TV.
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I'm using the Disco less and less. Saving it now just for when I absolutely need to. I can only see fuel prices spiralling ever higher. I'd love to run it on veg oil but it's a TD5.
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£1.30 per litre here- costing me £100 week just to get to work!! I won't get rid of the 4x4 it'll just become a offroader/weekend/family/towing car. Been looking around at various diesel Corsas and stuff that get 75mpg+ on a run. Okay to get work in but not really family size/family safe.
I calculated that £5K spent on a 2005 model diesel bubble car will have paid for itself in 18months- that's how ridiculous the situation is! This is even assuming the price of diesel doesn't go up even more (which it will).
So no- don't sell- buy another car -VED Class B, insurance group 2, diesel runabout!
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Never, and for now there is always Veg Oil :roll:
Been looking at that It's £1.17/l in the tesco near here diesel isn't much more, so it's not worth risking my injector pump.
Try local cash & carry they do 20Ltrs of KTC Veg oil for £17
and its in 20ltr barrels so easier to put in :D
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On the news today they're expecting Oil to reach $200 a barrel :shock: that's $5 a gallon or $1.33 per ltr or in uk prices 67p per litre. and that's before the refinery has converted it to petrol/diesel and before Government slaps 85ppl tax on it. add delivery costs and the filling stations mark up and you're looking at £2.00 per litre.
It's getting so bad I had to tow a pikey to a garage today after he ran out of diesel. :oops: Now that's a serious state of affairs.
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I calculated that £5K spent on a 2005 model diesel bubble car will have paid for itself in 18months- that's how ridiculous the situation is! This is even assuming the price of diesel doesn't go up even more (which it will).
So no- don't sell- buy another car -VED Class B, insurance group 2, diesel runabout!
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ive been thinking down that line use one disco for towing and long hauls then me high milage knock about truck i use for work but now thinking another car shed or what ever small deisel and as you say will pay for its self. end of the day discos are good for mpg deisels anyway dont know what else is as good for what they do ...
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Im off to look at a rover 420D at least it will be better fuel econ than the lanny. home, but when you live in the middle of knowhere thats a bit difficult.
I drive one (420 sd) daily :D 45 mpg :lol: but buy the SD its cheaper to insure :shock: (better alarm as standard)
As for the Rangie, its my substitute for the pub etc so it will stay as long as I can afford it
Steve
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Where does it all end.........................
When the (real) depression comes and so does Anarchy with it. Those in power have a lot to answer for.
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Where does it all end.........................
When the (real) depression comes and so does Anarchy with it. Those in power have a lot to answer for.
Britain Anarchy?? hahahahahahaha in your dreams. Maybe if you'd said when the Apathy comes I might have agreed with you. But Anarchy you're living in Cloud Cuckoo land.
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The disco stays!
I will use the bike to get to work more often, as I have over the last month. We will all be on little scooters (mine a 1500cc cruiser doning 45-ish mpg round town) to get to work to be able to afford to play at the weekend.
What about a petrol bubble!? They are doing almost the same mileage as diesel ones and petrol is cheaper! I have a P reg Polo that the wife uses. I bought it 2 years ago for £1400, it does 45+ to the gallon and I have been offered £1000 for it the other week.
One bloke at work just got rid of his big car, not a 4x4, and bought a Yaris. £35 a year tax and 60+ to the gallon. He has kept the old 4x4 to tow the horse box and reckons he will save a fortune even with the cost of the car new.
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I've started running/riding to work.
Admittedly it's only about 4 miles by the most direct route (through woods/ along the River Calder bank)
I leave uniform in my locker, & get changed when I get there (it's roughly a 30minute run in day-light & was 32 at 22:00)
If I start to run it more, I might look into a head-torch :-k
(http://www.b3tards.com/u/8b39328e81f8ab8ed925/taxing-drivers-280.jpg)
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Where does it all end.........................
When the (real) depression comes and so does Anarchy with it. Those in power have a lot to answer for.
Britain Anarchy?? hahahahahahaha in your dreams. Maybe if you'd said when the Apathy comes I might have agreed with you. But Anarchy you're living in Cloud Cuckoo land.
...and that's why the fuel prices will continue to go up and up and up. ;)
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I'm still using the Disco every day for my 40 mile round trip to work... I've thought about the idea of a eurobox but at the moment I can't afford the capital outlay... :(
I run the disco on 60/40 Diesel/SVO, so at least that knocks a few pece off the silly diesel prices.. I was thinking about a proper veg oil twin tank set up but the price of Veg oil has risen so much I don't think its worth it. :|
I'm also hoping for a promotion within the next 9 months that will come with a company car, and possibly a fuel card, so i'm holding out to see if that happens... :P
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i`m also considering it, although i`m going for a petrol.... Volvo T5! then save up for the LPG conversion... very reluctant! :(
what can you do, you protest, the government makes up laws to stop you protesting.... maybe a european court would lead somewhere.. but who can afford to drive to europe to go to court?!
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Just today I've noticed a variation in pricing locally
There's as much as a 9p/litre differential!
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Well, the supermarkets buy the half life fuel from the refineries, thats how they can sell it cheaper, then the proper fresh fuel goes to the likes of BP, Shell, Esso etc. You do get more miles to the tank of non-supermarket fuel, but then you do pay more for it!!!
Some people say the fuel is exactly the same wherever you buy it.....remember the fuel problems a few years back, clogging the lambda sensor, that only originated from supermarket fuel stations!!!!
Funny isn't it!!!
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I'm lucky as I have a Biodiesal supplier about 4 min drive from me, it 95p per litre at the moment. Slowly switching over to 100% for the summer. The thing is, there are not many vehicles that can tow 2.5 tonnes plus legally - what do you do?
I know the feeling, It is now costing me over £60 :shocked: a week just to visit the horses daily and commute. I am now having to think hard about selling the Disco and trailer :cry: as nothing else can tow the weight and be more economical on daily runs. Bang goes the horse shows and helping the elderly neighbours when the get stuck on our hill. I know what I would like to do to Gordon Brown and it would not be pleasant :evil:
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And your both Scots :shock:
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Still paying 50p per ltr for my lpg and use about £40 per week of lpg and about £10 month of petrol. So me still using the old v8 disco as my daily drive. At the end of the day i drive it because i like it and modt of the people i have talked to have said the same they bought a big car cos they love driving tham and fuel prices wont put them off driving it
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To be honest, the disco is far more economical than the last car I had and nobody bothered about 'tree hugging' all over that!
I have always had at least one big car in the household and I intend to stay that way. The Polo I have that the wife uses for nipping here and there is good fun to drive, for a short time. But I do feel really vulnerable in it! You are at wheel nut level on wagons and buses, not a nice place to be!
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i have just been sent the link
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Lowerduty30/
Sign it Please