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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: muddy eveitt on June 16, 2008, 22:49:17
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hi ive just put a new set of scorpion racing springs on i want to put new shocks on what should i go for what would be best ? cant ne body help
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pro comp
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pro comp
Agree that's what I have on my 110, but don't buy them from Colin !!!! Paddocks etc will be cheaper !!
Bet the springs are dead hard as well !!
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I have Bearmach "tuffback" on my 110 at the moment and they are a lot nicer on the road than the old Procomps I angle-grinded off :twisted: not been off road with them yet but they seem nice and strong and the +4" version is nice and long as well :lol:
Give http://www.mailorder4x4.com/ a call, top blokes to deal with.
(imho and no, I don't work for them ;))
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rough county from llama 4x4
there designed for land rovers, even though they look the same as pro-comps there not
pro-comps are a universal shock with land rover fitments welded on, hence all the breakages from when people over tighten the bush's or use polybush's on the eyes and they sprag open
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only one shock out there if you truely want a perfect ride, Old Man Emu every single time. why waste your money on pro comp or the likes when its been proven time after time again and again that old mans are the best? with the majority of the major 4x4 competitors using this product..... yes there expensive but you will only have to buy once, if you choose the other makes and you will have to buy again in a couple of years to replace your [!Expletive Deleted!] shocks!
Buy once buy right and save money in the long run....
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only one shock out there if you truely want a perfect ride, Old Man Emu every single time. why waste your money on pro comp or the likes when its been proven time after time again and again that old mans are the best? with the majority of the major 4x4 competitors using this product..... yes there expensive but you will only have to buy once, if you choose the other makes and you will have to buy again in a couple of years to replace your [!Expletive Deleted!] shocks!
Buy once buy right and save money in the long run....
keep the recipt for your pro-comps....when there goosed get a new set F.O.C :D
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I use Rough Country, great off road, but will move to OME when they go as on road I feel the dampening could be better.
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Free replacements are all very nice, but as a friend found in the middle of Wales, when the top eyes of both rear dampers* its a very long and very very bouncy drive home. IMHO for the money the rough country is a better damper, but are a little under damped on the road compared to all the uprated dampers availible (but nothiung like knackered procomps), particularly if you take the ramps where they have skimmed tarmac off the road a little to fast.
My rough country's seem to be holding up well, more of a problem than the damping I find are the plastic boots that cover the shafts (pro-comps are the same), there a mud trap and reduce travel (they concertina up into bumpstop) when fitted and the shafts do suffer from stone chips and scratches without them. The compromise i'm using is to only secure the boots at the top and trim them so the just cover the shafts on the road, loose the mud out the bottom off road and less of a bumpstop. Speaking with david from Llama they should be changing to steel sleeves like the standard LR dampers, but they don't appear to have changed yet.
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Sell your scrap iron springs. I have OME +1" progresive springs and OME shocks on my 90. have been on since 2005 to go to Morroco, with Magiolina roof tent and all the camping gear, I also use my 90 for work towing a trailer loaded with 2 ton on it. I also green lane and pull my caravan. They are great for fast road work to. Make sure you tell your retailer what you require from your suspension. If you have gone for +2" springs make sure all your running gear is up to it, ujs ect. As the other guy said all the compertition trucks use them that must be testament to the quality!!
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Free replacements are all very nice, but as a friend found in the middle of Wales, when the top eyes of both rear dampers* its a very long and very very bouncy drive home. IMHO for the money the rough country is a better damper, but are a little under damped on the road compared to all the uprated dampers availible (but nothiung like knackered procomps), particularly if you take the ramps where they have skimmed tarmac off the road a little to fast.
My rough country's seem to be holding up well, more of a problem than the damping I find are the plastic boots that cover the shafts (pro-comps are the same), there a mud trap and reduce travel (they concertina up into bumpstop) when fitted and the shafts do suffer from stone chips and scratches without them. The compromise i'm using is to only secure the boots at the top and trim them so the just cover the shafts on the road, loose the mud out the bottom off road and less of a bumpstop. Speaking with david from Llama they should be changing to steel sleeves like the standard LR dampers, but they don't appear to have changed yet.
my comp truck never has had boots fitted to the rods on the damper and ive had no issues what so ever
the rubber gatiers are crap IMO
as for shocks breaking, i had a set of pro-comps that were 3 years old on mine and they were fine.....they only broke in the end at the bottom because they had got bent then straightend that many times they just snapped when being abused on a challenge event
you hear bad stories about pro-comps, but afink its down to fitment and the type of bush used
ive seen broken OME's before, and dephili de-carbons
in the offroad world, everything breaks, nothing is unbreakable
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hello chaps i really do thank u all for helpin me out kind of got an idear but in away still lost still dont no what to get lol
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Have used Pro-comps, they weren't dampening the spring rebound very well. So I have switched to OME (they also matched the spring ratings), made a big improvement even if they did cost a few pennies more.
Which ever dampers you go for, let the retailer know what the spring ratings are so they can get the best damper match. This will make a big difference to the performance on and off road.
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my comp truck never has had boots fitted to the rods on the damper and ive had no issues what so ever
the rubber gatiers are crap IMO
I don't think it was whilst off roading that the shafts got scratched on my dampers, rather the stone chips whilst driving on roads. The scratches apperaed so as much as I would sooner not fit them the boots went on.
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Hi
I've got a 110, fitted 2"lift with bearmach springs and have pro comp shocks on - it is unstable as it bounces around like onow.
Suspect it's the procomp shocks.
Looking around for some different ones but go to save!
Even my club say I bounce too much when greenlaning as well.
Any one know a 2" lift 110 make of shock?
Dave
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You can always fit lower drop brackets as i have done with my scorpion racing springs
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You can always fit lower drop brackets as i have done with my scorpion racing springs
Doesn't change the damping rate and if not done properly can lead to premature failure of the shock (another reason pro-comps fail is because they don't take well to being used as a bump stop).
If the springs are a standard length, then the LR shock itself isn't too bad, and it'll cope with stiffer springs quiet well.
As for after-market shocks, I think OME are probably the best. I have De-Carbons on mine, but they were pre-Delphi units and have proved more reliable than a lot of the later ones!
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hello chaps i really do thank u all for helpin me out kind of got an idear but in away still lost still dont no what to get lol
If you dont have short arms and deep pockets I would go for OME, as I said above I will move to these once the rough country have had their day, I already use OME springs in the Devon 4x4 guise.
At the end of the day, it all depends on what you want to do.
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Hi
I've got a 110, fitted 2"lift with bearmach springs and have pro comp shocks on - it is unstable as it bounces around like onow.
Suspect it's the procomp shocks.
Looking around for some different ones but go to save!
Even my club say I bounce too much when greenlaning as well.
Any one know a 2" lift 110 make of shock?
Dave
I have a lifted 110 hardtop, used to run yellow springs :| and pro comps and the ride was fairly scary on road :D
Just fitted Bearmach CSW springs which are a lot softer than the HD yellow ones.. and Tuffback shocks.
The ride is softer but a lot more progressive. I brake in a straight line now ;) and I get a lot more flex in the axles off road.
Dunno if that'll help but that's what I did.
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dont go for Procomp - as has been said on here there is much evidence of them breaking - yes they have a good warranty and its just as well as there is a chance that you will need it.
Ive got OME, which I find to be good - they are to Devon4x4 spec along with the springs so they are a little dearer.
I had Bilsteins before that and found them to be ok too. I think you can get them from Paddocks.
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Put it this way, my ex SAS 110 pinkie, which is rated to 4 ton, has got the same Old Man Emu shocks on it that it had fitted when I received it. I use it on a good number of Military ranges so I am not careful, and I can assure you that the SAS were damn harsh with them and they are still in good nick, and they have been on there since around 2004. Now if they can take all that then thats where my money would be going.
My mate snapped one of his rear pro-comps on his first of off road forray!!
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snapping pro comps is commonplace - it may be down the installation set up and the orientation of the washers etc but whatever it is there are still seemingly many occasions of them snapping.