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Title: This is what its come to
Post by: discowoman on June 23, 2008, 18:39:12
feelings go out to the family, and hope the scum get their come - uppance
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080623/tuk-woman-dies-after-diesel-raid-dba1618.html
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: piggysteve on June 23, 2008, 18:46:58
So so bad, words fail you
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: KingWolf on June 23, 2008, 18:58:46
 :-o :-o :-o OMG - What is happening to this country...!!!

My heart goes out to the family involved.

Mark.
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: robert francis on June 23, 2008, 20:11:48
its wrong aslong as the goverment are getting there tax money they dont care,
soon they will no everything each person does if they dont already
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: insa-disco on June 23, 2008, 21:46:25
its disgusting that they would even resort to that in the first place let alone try and run the man down, im guessing the poor woman had a heart attack because of the shock, hope they find the [!Expletive Deleted!]
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: carbore on June 25, 2008, 13:52:09
Sooner or later some "double barreled justice" will be dealt out to some of these scumbags.  But when it does you can be sure that Mr Farmer will end up doing porridge wen poor old Mr Scumbags family tell about how poor they all are.

PS if any scumbags in Cornwall are reading this id remind you that there are an awful lot of un capped mineshafts around and th sea takes things away nicley.
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: diggerdog36 on June 25, 2008, 18:36:17
Sooner or later some "double barreled justice" will be dealt out to some of these scumbags.

Erm, does the name Tony Martin not ring any bells???  There was a documentary on a few months ago, the last question the interviewer asked was "If the same thing happened again and you knew the outcome, would you do the same again?"

Mr Martin replied "YES definately!!"

I know a farmer in County Durham and a few months ago he approached a thief nicking red diesel, he lifted their vehicle into the air with a manitou fork truck and phoned the police, he was told to lower the vehicle for the police to take evidence, the thieves WERE arrested for theft, criminal damage and tresspass!!  Guy was cautioned for damaging their vehicle!!!!  Justice served!!!
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on June 25, 2008, 20:19:44
Sooner or later some "double barreled justice" will be dealt out to some of these scumbags.

I know a farmer in County Durham and a few months ago he approached a thief nicking red diesel, he lifted their vehicle into the air with a manitou fork truck and phoned the police, he was told to lower the vehicle for the police to take evidence, the thieves WERE arrested for theft, criminal damage and tresspass!!  Guy was cautioned for damaging their vehicle!!!!  Justice served!!!


The only bit wrong with this piece is that the guy got a caution for damage. He shouldn't even have got that, in my humble opinion. He wouldn't have got that if I'd have dealt with it. He'd have got a commendation!
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: carbore on June 26, 2008, 11:37:56
I am aware fo the Tony Martin case and saw something on TV about it some time ago that was thought provoking. I think that individual cases need individual review (and usually do via the courts etc). I am in favour of defence, but offence is different (e.g. if they are running away with empty pockets). I also appreciate the issue of constant aggrovation and persecution, so nothing is clear cut.
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: discowoman on June 26, 2008, 12:41:16
AN ENGLISHMANS HOME IS HIS CASTLE
 
Stands to reason we should be allowed to protect it - law is too 1 sided - often the wrong side
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: rollazuki on June 26, 2008, 13:06:30
OK, yes theft is wrong. The old lady dies of a heart attack induced Id guess by the stress of the theft going pear shaped.

BUT.

What if the guy stealing the juice had a family, a mortgage about to foreclose, and a small haulage company that had suddenly ceased to become profitable due to the massive rise in fuel prices.

My feelings go to the family, and those who knew her, but the demand for fuel, and thus the theft only arose because of the cra**y state of the country. If you couldnt find the cash to feed your family and a local farm had an unlocked fuel tank, how many of us can say it wouldnt cross our minds?

Its a shining example of the state of things, that fuel(lets face it a neccesity) is becoming out of the reach of a lot of people, that mebbe we should look after ourselves instead of caring for the rest of the world, that mebbe the government should intervene and find some kinda capping sysytem for fuel/food prices. etc etc etc.

Ill get off me soap box now, but Im cross because of the price of things, Im a biker again instead of a 4x4 driver cos they dont guzzle so much, but this is gonna happen again and again until we either stop using the damned stuff, or someone intervenes.


Ps, I know a government controlling food+fuel is heading towards communism, but hey, maybe its worth a try.

Rolla
Title: Re: This is what its come to
Post by: discowoman on June 26, 2008, 17:41:12
OK, yes theft is wrong. The old lady dies of a heart attack induced Id guess by the stress of the theft going pear shaped.

BUT.

What if the guy stealing the juice had a family, a mortgage about to foreclose, and a small haulage company that had suddenly ceased to become profitable due to the massive rise in fuel prices.

My feelings go to the family, and those who knew her, but the demand for fuel, and thus the theft only arose because of the cra**y state of the country. If you couldnt find the cash to feed your family and a local farm had an unlocked fuel tank, how many of us can say it wouldnt cross our minds?

Its a shining example of the state of things, that fuel(lets face it a neccesity) is becoming out of the reach of a lot of people, that mebbe we should look after ourselves instead of caring for the rest of the world, that mebbe the government should intervene and find some kinda capping sysytem for fuel/food prices. etc etc etc.

Ill get off me soap box now, but Im cross because of the price of things, Im a biker again instead of a 4x4 driver cos they dont guzzle so much, but this is gonna happen again and again until we either stop using the damned stuff, or someone intervenes.


Ps, I know a government controlling food+fuel is heading towards communism, but hey, maybe its worth a try.

Rolla
hubby has been on SSP for 14 weeks - but we havent resorted to stealing - and never will, we were brought up to RESPECT other peoples property.......we dont drink or smoke - but have a mortgage and bills and struggle to survive week to week, I have just started a job as a community care Nurse and as a result we have had to get a 2nd car purely for work - otherwise the fuel costs of the family car would cripple us.. case of damned if we work damned if we dont!
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