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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: vitara guy on November 01, 2008, 10:48:45

Title: rear anti roll bar
Post by: vitara guy on November 01, 2008, 10:48:45
guys for off road purposes should i remove  rear anti roll bar?..
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Disco-andy on November 01, 2008, 11:19:55
it will help with axle articulation. So yes it will help keep the wheel on the floor in the twisty stuff .
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Budgie on November 01, 2008, 16:57:04
I would only recommend removing the rear ARB if you've uprate the rear suspension as it will cause the vehicle to feel a lot more unstable when cornering on the road.
If you still have the standard springs & shocks on there then I would leave it where it is.
Also, if you remove it then some MOT stations will fail it for not having the ARB on there, plus you would need to inform your insurance that it's been removed or they could invalidate your insurance if your involved in an accident.  ;)

If you're only using the Disco Off Road then ignore the above.  :D
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Gav_T on November 01, 2008, 18:03:16
Mine felt fine when i removed mine and i still have got standard springs and dampers. I will dig  out a photo of the articulation i got by removing it and having some -2" damper droppers and cranked arms.

Gavin.
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 02, 2008, 00:19:09
Conversly I have 2 rear ARB fitted and I can still get the wheels all the way to the end of the dampers.  the rear ARB makes little if any difference to the RTI of RRC/Disco.

http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/Flexing/0/cb79fef1362a0163aa308ff62dfae162.JPG/
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Disco Matt on November 02, 2008, 19:08:13
Has it ever given you any problems off road? If not, I'd leave it on. No need to modify unless it addresses a genuine problem.
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: bobthedisco on November 02, 2008, 22:26:27
Conversly I have 2 rear ARB fitted and I can still get the wheels all the way to the end of the dampers.  the rear ARB makes little if any difference to the RTI of RRC/Disco.

http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/Flexing/0/cb79fef1362a0163aa308ff62dfae162.JPG/

2 arbs? one question is why???? you trying to make it handle like an X5? pmsl

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

oh and yes definitely remove it unless you are only doing some gentle greenlaning ;)
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: solihull-mick on November 04, 2008, 14:57:49
Gas them off , who wants a disco to handle? :doh:
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: mentalmoshio sophs V8i on November 04, 2008, 19:02:43
Gas them off , who wants a disco to handle? :doh:

 :police: he does when oops happens  :|
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: solihull-mick on November 05, 2008, 08:38:44
Ive cut the arbs off all the discos ive offroaded, never had any issues, cut many off customers motors, if you expect a disco to handle like a MK2 escort them my guess would be sell it and buy one  :afro:
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Budgie on November 05, 2008, 10:08:46
Why would you cut or gas the ARBs off the motors?
I just undid the bolts to remove mine!!  :roll:
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Disco Matt on November 05, 2008, 10:46:44
Mine has done everything from gentle laning (not sure Strata counts as gentle mind... :lol:) to slogging through mud on private sites. The main problem I hit is when the ruts get too deep and the axles run aground or I get cross-axled due to having only 5mm of tread left on one tyre. I have never had a problem with flexing despite having both ARBs fitted.

It may change with a lift kit, but RRB's experiences would suggest not.
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: solihull-mick on November 08, 2008, 16:57:55
Why would you cut or gas the ARBs off the motors?
I just undid the bolts to remove mine!!  :roll:

God give me strength!! its a phrase  gas them off as in remove them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! god its like being as school !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: mentalmoshio sophs V8i on November 08, 2008, 17:44:24
id be interested to see with the rear anti roll bar off the knock on effect when in a slide with the winter conditions ever closer or  with winter driving dangers say  :-k

i have throught about removing mine but was put off by driving  classic 82 range rover 6 yrs back now  :|
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Budgie on November 09, 2008, 08:28:34
Why would you cut or gas the ARBs off the motors?
I just undid the bolts to remove mine!!  :roll:

God give me strength!! its a phrase  gas them off as in remove them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! god its like being as school !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well if you explained yourself a little better then maybe you wouldn't get questions like that.
Attitude gets you nowhere in the respect game in my book so lets use a little less of it OK?
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: solihull-mick on November 09, 2008, 13:10:51
sorry if i affended you, that wasnt my intention, the term "gas it off" is a well used phrase in the trade, i should remember not everybody on here has a mechanical background in the trade, once again sorry for the attidude,   :oops:

I do however gas, cut, remove  the remaining ARB mounting brackets from the chassis and axles, just another thing not to get bent or cause problems when offroading,
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Budgie on November 09, 2008, 14:06:33
No problems, apology accepted.
I was a fitter/turner for 11 years and if we were asked to "gas" something then it meant to get the oxy/acetylene cutting torch on it, that was the only reason for asking.  ;)

With a +3" lift & 33" tyres, I left the brackets on there as the chassis brackets were well out of the way and I wasn't bothered about the axle ones, plus I didn't have gear to remove them.
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 09, 2008, 14:34:09
Conversly I have 2 rear ARB fitted and I can still get the wheels all the way to the end of the dampers.  the rear ARB makes little if any difference to the RTI of RRC/Disco.

http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/Flexing/0/cb79fef1362a0163aa308ff62dfae162.JPG/

2 arbs? one question is why???? you trying to make it handle like an X5? pmsl

 

Oh dear, sorry to about that, hope you weren't in public ;)

Well thing is I don't encounter many fork lift trucks when I'm green laning, but I do tow a lot, I have 2 big dogs and a gas tank in the boot.

Like with Blue, this one  (http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/EAS/1/296e3382344d5467f592e8171192e510.JPG/QWdhaW4gdGhpcyBpcyB3ZWxsIHdpdGhpbiB0aGUgY2FwYWJpbHRpZXM=)will also flex to the limit of the dampers, plus 2" as before

And look how thick the rear ARB (http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/EAS/1/d0ca6352fad0591022e0d89427abbc8f.JPG/QWlyIGJhZyBub3QgZnVsbHkgZXh0ZW5kZWQgYnV0IHdhdGNoIHRoZSBhbnRpIHJvbGwgYmFy) is on it


BTW Mick, I've got a MkII Escort or two, thanks :D
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: vitara guy on November 09, 2008, 14:37:06
o well iv removed both front and rear anti roll bars now. mind u its not an every day drive just a road legal off roader..
Title: Re: rear anti roll bar
Post by: Gav_T on November 12, 2008, 18:48:00
I found my photo of my disco, just -2" droppers, cranked arms and no rear arb
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